NFL Draft Thread

[krazykats]

What is your team doing? What do they need?

There always seems to be trade talk that doesn't amount to anything. What's the scoop out there?

I officially quit on my lions. 24 years and had their 2nd player retire early to get away from football, and that is it for me. Officially rooting for the Titans and may go to a few games this year.

#1 pick Jeremy Tunsil and that fills their biggest hole! A line to block for Mariota and Murray and things could really turn quick for them.

After that a secondary too.

 

[allabouttheUK]

Browns are doing what they always do...screw up! They need to go away.

They will surely draft Wentz who has rarely played in the elements, and screw his career up. Yet another wasted 1st rd draft pick by a team that just picked up RG3. It's a hard life being a Browns fan.

 

[krazykats]

HaHa if there was ever a team to really just go defense, O line and RB it should be Cleveland! Anything else is too much for them.

 

[allabouttheUK]

HaHa if there was ever a team to really just go defense, O line and RB it should be Cleveland! Anything else is too much for them.

I think what you meant was "if there was ever a team that needed to just go away, it should be Cleveland"

 

[krazykats]

They tried that, and won the super bowl so quick afterward the city will never let go again!

 

[allabouttheUK]

Doesn't seem to be a lot of intrigue to this years draft. Which means it will probably be one of the more solid drafts in recent memory.

 

[krazykats]

It's a very solid draft, but the QBs aren't worth crippling a team for so it is very quiet.

Every position has a lot of elite players and depth! If Treadway lands in the right spot he could blow up immediately!

 

[KingOfBBN]

This is definitely the year to not worry about a QB. Every single year some mediocre QB gets elevated to a high draft slot simply because a lack of competition.

 

[allabouttheUK]

I have never understood why teams draft QB's or RB's early in the draft. I'd worry about OL and DL and depth at those spots early. Hit free agency for RB's, and find me a late round QB to bring along slowly.

 

[MegaBlue05]

Bengals fan:

Needs:

Receivers
DBs
Head coach

 

[krazykats]

Titans now predicted to take Jalen Ramsey #1 since it seems no one will trade up to #1.

That said I think as bad as they need an Oline for Mariota/Murray this is absolutely the best decision. Clearly you can find Oline in the 2nd, but the drop off from DBs vs Oline is a lot worse.

 

[krazykats]

So the Titans trade out of #1 and got a slew of picks to drop 14 spots. That's a lot but they now have a great shot at 4 starters being added to the roster this year and added a second 1st rounder next year!

I like it if they were truly taking Tunsil #1 because there will be solid OL option at one of the 3 early 2nd round picks they now have and they can take best available which could be Laqoun Treadwell.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I would love to see the bengals get the wr from tcu. He would be a great compliment with aj

 

[Wall2Boogie]

In other football news the latest on manziel is great. He and a buddy hit a telephone pole. Who is there to pick him up? Of all people josh Gordon who btw failed another drug test and probably won't play this yr either lol

 

[krazykats]

Moving on from those dopes.

Doctson will be there if the bengals want him.

I'm amazed at the projections for the Titans already after the trade. I mean including the 3rd round projections there are easily 6 starters coming in and two 1st rounders next year.

That's truly amazing

 

[qwesley]

Rams - pretty much no draft stuff to speculate at for a couple of years. Giving a bounty for a QB when you have no receivers does not make much sense.

 

[krazykats]

Couldn't agree more.

Bad move for them IMO but jumping on the Titan bandwagon(is there one?) after Calvin retired and I'm pumped.

 

[UK_Dallas]

The Titans should try to flip some of those extra picks, maybe a 2 and the 3, to the Pats this year for their 1 next year since they don't have a 1 this year. They always look to trade down and value those lower picks. That would get you 4 of the top 35ish next year as opposed to 4 of the top 45 this year.

 

[Big_Blue79]

If anyone can develop a less than can't miss QB prospect, it's Jeff Fisher. What a haul by the Titans. Home run trade for them.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I've been impressed with Jon Robinson's first few months as the Titans' GM. Granted retaining Mularkey was not stellar but every move since then was good.
-he was frugal and smart in FA. He brought in guys to round out depth and fill holes. The guys are of the correct age to help build for the future. They fit well too. They brought in some of the former Steelers that LeBeau hand picked and coached. He kept his draft options open with his signings.
-as I said, the FA signings fit what the coaches do. This means he is listening to the coaches and what they need.
-2 fantastic, program changing draft trades and we're still 2 wks away from the draft
-has been very good with the media
-has streamlined the front office. And as a former scout has further plans to revamp the Titans' scouting team and function.
-has modeled his work thus far from Belichick and New England....in fact today on satellite radio he mentioned that he's interested in stockpiling more picks in 2017 and 2018.....much like NE do.

 

[krazykats]

Not saying your wrong chief but rumor is if the right guys are out there they may try to move back into the 1st round.

No one has a clue what they are doing yet. They need OT, LB and DB but a lot of people think they are going to take Treadwell at 15 and try to trade up to also get Taylor Decker OT from OSU.

I was discussing with a buddy about me becoming a fan of theirs now. Turns out he has lower level season tickets at 1200 per and might sell or split with me. Pretty pumped really.

 

[BlueRaider22]

I think at #15 (if they stay) the pick almost has to be a OT....assuming nobody falls. Hargreaves and Ramsey will likely be gone.....no other CB is worthy there other than Fuller and he'll go lower due to medical.

It's too high for this crop of WRs as it relates to the needs of the Titans. They would get much better value going with a Biyd or Shepard in rds 2-3.

So, really if the stay at #15 it's likely to be OT. Specifically Conklin. He's the road grader of Stanley, Decker....which fits Mularkey's "exotic smash-mouth" offense. However, if Hargreaves falls then who knows? The Titans could easily give up one of their 2nd rd picks to move up to pick #7-8 range for whomever is there.

 

[krazykats]

That's about right. Other than Treadwell at 15 I've seen Conklin and Stanley but most saying Stanley would have to fall and won't.

Based on that I've seen Jason Spriggs OT from IU if Treadwell is the pick but Mackenzie DB from Clemson if Conklin/Stanley.

After that those two picks they just got is a mix of Sheperd, OL or LBs.

You have to stock up on OL this year and leave yourself open for two defensive studs in the first next year.

 

[School boy]

The one thing you don't ever do and that's giving draft picks away. Rams trading the first 3 picks this year is ok. But when you give Tenn Titans the first in next years draft then you are giving your future away.

Now my 49ers are is dog crap. I wanted Goff so bad I felt him in my hands. Now we'll play against him for the next 12-15 years. Mean while our GM Baalke will miss on another draft. I'm telling you now if Jack is at 7 you better take him. If you don't then trade down to 12th and pick WR Treadwell. If he's not at 12 then go with a left guard. Our line was awful.

I know we can draft a qb with our top 3 pick for next year, but knowing Goff is the real deal I feel sad. But Rams gave up a LOT.

 

[BlueRaider22]

The 49ers may still have a chance at Goff.....or Wentz. With Cleveland's new "moneyball" GM nobody knows what they are going to do. They could trade down.....or pass on a QB at #2. After that who knows?

 

[BlueRaider22]

That's about right. Other than Treadwell at 15 I've seen Conklin and Stanley but most saying Stanley would have to fall and won't.

Based on that I've seen Jason Spriggs OT from IU if Treadwell is the pick but Mackenzie DB from Clemson if Conklin/Stanley.

After that those two picks they just got is a mix of Sheperd, OL or LBs.

You have to stock up on OL this year and leave yourself open for two defensive studs in the first next year.

The staff may prefer Conklin over Stanley. I know several teams do. Stanley is the better athlete and is better in pass pro but Conklin is the nasty "road grader." With Mularkey's desire to run the ball a lot they may prefer Conklin outright.

Some interesting names I'm torn on for 2nd rd picks. Spence out of EKU and Smith out of ND. Spence had major off-field issues at OSU hence the transfer to EKU. Because of this he may fall to the 2nd. Has he cleaned up? He's a top 10 talent. Jaylon Smith would've been a top 3 pick in this draft if it weren't for his medical. He had an ACL surgery and suffered some nerve damage. They say that he may not be able to play this yr or at all. He could play any of our LB positions and is an absolute stud. If medical checks out I'd wouldnt cry if they took him and sat him for a yr.

I like the idea of getting a couple stud defensive players for next yr. We were a borderline top 10 overall defense this past yr. It wouldn't take much to push us up a few spots. May even get there this yr with an improved offense and good draft......and, of course, LeBeau now calling the plays. Jabril Peppers out of Michigan looks interesting. He's like Ramsey in that he's a crazy versatile athlete. UM has used him mainly as a S/CB, they've also lined him up as a RB, WR, wildcat QB, and PR/KR. And he's darn good at it all.

Also next yr's RB draft class is loaded. Fournette, Chubb, Cook just to name a few. With Murray pushing 30 and only a few yrs left on his deal, I'd be ecstatic with another major RB signing.

Probably the downside of trading with the Rams is where we will be picking next yr. They are a good team that most likely will be in the 8-10 win range next yr which means we will be picking in the high teens or low 20s with our additional pick. I figure we'll get about 6 wins next yr and thus land around the 8-12 range with our other pick. If we would've traded with the 49ers we would've gotten less altogether but probably picked top 5 next yr easily.

 

[mashburned]

I wanted Goff so bad I felt him in my hands

Lolllllllll

 

[krazykats]

Christ

 

[Bigtyrone]

I was at the draft when Tim Couch was taken #1. It was awesome.

 

[krazykats]

So it looks like all the projections are narrowing in for now:

Titans get Conklin, Mackensie Alexander, Kenny Clark, and Vonn Bell then add Braxton Miller in the 3rd.

That really addresses a lot of needs there.

 

[qwesley]

Goff and Wentz will go 1-2 regardless...too much premium on QBs now. I can talk myself into either being better than the other. I tend to favor Wentz slightly due to his size and intelligence. Either way, they will be awful next year, hopefully awful enough (instead of 8-8) that Fisher will be gone. That will probably be a top 10 pick for the Titans. The Rams had a similar haul for RGIII but stayed on the Bradford wagon too long and wasted a 1 & 2 on Tavon Austin among other dubious picks.

 

[krazykats]

STL will be taking Goff and most likely Fisher will be on board at least until they move. I do not think he is doing a bad job at all TBH and assume the trade was made more for th value of Gurley than it was because Goff is the next big thing.

SF is done so STL is competing for 2nd in the division next year for sure but Lynch is gone and Palmer is Palmer so they definitely have a great shot to be on top soon!

 

[KingOfBBN]

There's no QB worth trading up for this year.

 

[dgtatu01]

STL will be taking Goff and most likely Fisher will be on board at least until they move. I do not think he is doing a bad job at all TBH and assume the trade was made more for th value of Gurley than it was because Goff is the next big thing.

SF is done so STL is competing for 2nd in the division next year for sure but Lynch is gone and Palmer is Palmer so they definitely have a great shot to be on top soon!

A more accurate statement would be no competition for 3rd. I don't think they move up into either the Seahwaks or the Cardinals ranks.

 

[BlueRaider22]

Goff and Wentz will go 1-2 regardless...too much premium on QBs now. I can talk myself into either being better than the other. I tend to favor Wentz slightly due to his size and intelligence. Either way, they will be awful next year, hopefully awful enough (instead of 8-8) that Fisher will be gone. That will probably be a top 10 pick for the Titans. The Rams had a similar haul for RGIII but stayed on the Bradford wagon too long and wasted a 1 & 2 on Tavon Austin among other dubious picks.

Fisher's a good coach. I wouldn't be to quick to wish him away. He's the type of coach that will get you 7-8 wins a yr with bad rosters and take you deep into the playoffs with good rosters. The problem is that no one has ever given him a great roster. Believe me, as. Titan fan I know.

I do hope they tank though. I'd love two top 10 picks next yr. specifically for Fournette and Peppers. (Names subject to change). But they won't. They'll land around 8-8 and give us a 18-22 pick.

 

[BlueRaider22]

There's no QB worth trading up for this year.

If you don't have a QB (easily the most important position) then it may be worth it. In the Rams case that's one of their few missing pieces. If they had a QB the last few yrs they'd strongly would've been in the playoff hunt. Now clearly there isn't a Luck in this class but Goff/Wentz have tremendous potential. To many that's worth a shot.

 

[BlueRaider22]

So it looks like all the projections are narrowing in for now:

Titans get Conklin, Mackensie Alexander, Kenny Clark, and Vonn Bell then add Braxton Miller in the 3rd.

That really addresses a lot of needs there.

Fortunately (and also sickenly unfortunately) we have so many needs that we can go BPA the whole draft and do well. The draft is going to dictate where we go.

 

[qwesley]

Fisher's a good coach. I wouldn't be to quick to wish him away. He's the type of coach that will get you 7-8 wins a yr with bad rosters and take you deep into the playoffs with good rosters. The problem is that no one has ever given him a great roster. Believe me, as. Titan fan I know.

I do hope they tank though. I'd love two top 10 picks next yr. specifically for Fournette and Peppers. (Names subject to change). But they won't. They'll land around 8-8 and give us a 18-22 pick.

Quick? He has coached 22 years and has a runner up and one other final four. 12 of his 22 years he has 6-8 wins, including all 4 with the Rams. His best attribute is convincing owners he is a year or two away. And his style of stout D and running game is archaic in the NFL now. He promoted his TE coach to be OC this year. They have the worst QB/WR combo in the league after all those picks from the Redskins, not from bad luck. Plus I hate the porn stache.

 

[krazykats]

A more accurate statement would be no competition for 3rd. I don't think they move up into either the Seahwaks or the Cardinals ranks.

I'm not putting much value in Arizona with Palmer as QB and Fitz aging. TBH I'd assume they disappear faster than they show up every 3-4 years.

Also Seattle's defense has taken some major hits and the rules are going away from their physical DB's style too.

 

[krazykats]

Fortunately (and also sickenly unfortunately) we have so many needs that we can go BPA the whole draft and do well. The draft is going to dictate where we go.

While I agree, look I'm switching teams from the Lions. You plug holes and if you plug them right things work faster.

Conklin makes the offense so much better day 1 with an actual running game, and then focus on defense. If they gamble on Jaylon Smith in the 3rd I'll be stoked on a 2 year plan considering the shore up the secondary this year like we are projected too!