NFL Draft. What does your team need?
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Thought Pitt needed a CB more than MLB. I read one guys mock and he said Lonnie Johnson could end up being selected by the Steelers at the end of round 1. If not they might go with Bush from LSU then nab Johnson with the 2nd round pick #52.
Cowboys fan here, we need DLine and a stud TE, Wish there was a way to trade into the 1st round and get the Hockenson kid from Iowa. I think that kid is the next Gronk. Well, Zach Ertz. Kid is the real deal. Pretty much a WR in a Te's body.
What is really weird is that Iowa could have not 1 but 2 TE's picked in the first 20 picks. Some mocks have Hockenson going as high as 8, with Noah Fant, another stud TE going 20th to Detroit. Two TE's going in the first round is rare, but two from the same team is unheard of.
Lonnie Johnson is projected late 2nd early 3rd round pick.
I’d like the titans to take Irv Smith Jr.
I’ve never been a fan of Oakland but I am fascinated with how Gruden transforms this team into his own. Not sold he is the genius they think he is.
I’d like the titans to take Irv Smith Jr.
I’ve never been a fan of Oakland but I am fascinated with how Gruden transforms this team into his own. Not sold he is the genius they think he is.
As in Josh Allen? Zero chance he makes it past 6th.
What will be interesting is if these rumors of Bosa being a racist take off.. He's a guy womho could drop a few spots. Feels like some GM in that range is releasing this so he falls to them.
Definitely not a draft genius...why Mayock is on board now. Got some good years out of vets his 1st go around. Gonna have him some young guys to mold now.
Titans
Top needs (in no order): OC/OG, Outside WR (particularly a deep threat), TE, OLB, DL
So, let’s go through them one by one.....again in no order.
1. OC/OG - signing Saffold really helps. Jones has been ok at OC when he has help at OG. So we could get by with drafting a OC or OG. Interior OL don’t get as much love in the draft. Over 50% of the best 20 OGs and 20 OCs came from rounds 3-UDFA. So, do the Titans need go OL in rounds 1-3? Nope. However, Bradbury in the first is about as safe a pick as you can make. He can play OC/OG and should be a fantastic fit. It wouldn’t be sexy, but it would be solid. That being said, there are some great choices in rd 2-3 if they want to choose higher in the draft.
2. WR - There are only 3 WRs worthy of the first rd. Metcalf is a project. He can only run 3 routes and isn’t very good at them. He doesn’t have a lot of college production due to injuries. All of these things the Titans GM Jon Robinson despises. One of his first acts as GM was to dump Dorian Green-Beckham. So, I’d be surprised if Metcalf is a choice. Then you have the Brown’s. A.J. does everything well, but nothing spectacular. I wouldn’t mind A.J. but I’d rather us trade down and then grab him. Hollywood is absolutely electric. He’s a deep threat, great route runner, blah, blah, blah. He has 2 minuses.....his size and recent injury. If we choose a WR at #19, I’d imagine it’d be Hollywood. In the 2nd you could look at someone like Deebo Samuel.
3. TE - We need a TE, but do we need a first rd TE? TE is a position that often doesn’t make a huge, huge impact as rookies. Hockenson is like Witten. He’d be a slam dunk pick.....but I doubt we sniff him. Fant is a fair choice....but I wonder who we would be choosing him over. Id probably take any of the Clemson 3 than Fant. Then there’s Smith. Then only way I’d choose Smith is if I traded down past #25. There are some good looking 2-3rd rd TE prospects.
4. OLB - Right now we have Landry which hasn’t even played a full season and Wake who is a situational player at this stage of his career. We need someone else desperately. And OLB/pass rushers go very early in the draft. If someone like Ferrell, Sweat, or Burns fall to us I think they have to be high on your list......at the very least consider it greatly. If not in rd one, then a guy like Winovich would be a nice choice.
5. DL - This draft is very deep on the DL. Now this could mean you could wait.....or it could mean that you have the option to take value wherever it presents itself. Wilkins or Lawrence would be great choices at #19. But there are great choices throughout the draft.
With multiple options that “could” occur at #19, I would like the Titans to examine trading down.....picking up an extra 3rd pick or something. However I lean OLB, DL, or IOL in the first rd.
Top needs (in no order): OC/OG, Outside WR (particularly a deep threat), TE, OLB, DL
So, let’s go through them one by one.....again in no order.
1. OC/OG - signing Saffold really helps. Jones has been ok at OC when he has help at OG. So we could get by with drafting a OC or OG. Interior OL don’t get as much love in the draft. Over 50% of the best 20 OGs and 20 OCs came from rounds 3-UDFA. So, do the Titans need go OL in rounds 1-3? Nope. However, Bradbury in the first is about as safe a pick as you can make. He can play OC/OG and should be a fantastic fit. It wouldn’t be sexy, but it would be solid. That being said, there are some great choices in rd 2-3 if they want to choose higher in the draft.
2. WR - There are only 3 WRs worthy of the first rd. Metcalf is a project. He can only run 3 routes and isn’t very good at them. He doesn’t have a lot of college production due to injuries. All of these things the Titans GM Jon Robinson despises. One of his first acts as GM was to dump Dorian Green-Beckham. So, I’d be surprised if Metcalf is a choice. Then you have the Brown’s. A.J. does everything well, but nothing spectacular. I wouldn’t mind A.J. but I’d rather us trade down and then grab him. Hollywood is absolutely electric. He’s a deep threat, great route runner, blah, blah, blah. He has 2 minuses.....his size and recent injury. If we choose a WR at #19, I’d imagine it’d be Hollywood. In the 2nd you could look at someone like Deebo Samuel.
3. TE - We need a TE, but do we need a first rd TE? TE is a position that often doesn’t make a huge, huge impact as rookies. Hockenson is like Witten. He’d be a slam dunk pick.....but I doubt we sniff him. Fant is a fair choice....but I wonder who we would be choosing him over. Id probably take any of the Clemson 3 than Fant. Then there’s Smith. Then only way I’d choose Smith is if I traded down past #25. There are some good looking 2-3rd rd TE prospects.
4. OLB - Right now we have Landry which hasn’t even played a full season and Wake who is a situational player at this stage of his career. We need someone else desperately. And OLB/pass rushers go very early in the draft. If someone like Ferrell, Sweat, or Burns fall to us I think they have to be high on your list......at the very least consider it greatly. If not in rd one, then a guy like Winovich would be a nice choice.
5. DL - This draft is very deep on the DL. Now this could mean you could wait.....or it could mean that you have the option to take value wherever it presents itself. Wilkins or Lawrence would be great choices at #19. But there are great choices throughout the draft.
With multiple options that “could” occur at #19, I would like the Titans to examine trading down.....picking up an extra 3rd pick or something. However I lean OLB, DL, or IOL in the first rd.
Didn't care for that move...although, the D was awful with him..little worse without. They offered $20 mil...he wanted more. got some nice picks..Don't understand giving a 3rd back tho.
The titans drafted Rashard Evans last year too, and he is a solid OLB to go opposite of Landry.
I agree on DL, but Corey Davis is a legit #1 but Mariota is t a great enough QB to use him as well as we should.
That’s why I want Irv Smith Jr. he is a Wideout in A TE body. Mariota was great when Walker was his main target opening up the field. That too will help Davis.
Dammit. I was going to say that. You’re absolutely right.
Giants: trade up to get Kyler. Trade OBJ picks to get Josh Allen. Need WR and they are plentiful in mid-late rounds.
Saquon and Kyler in backfield would be a defenses nightmare.
Saquon and Kyler in backfield would be a defenses nightmare.
The Colts need safety and WR depth. Wouldn't mind to see them wait a bit for WR on a guy like Deebo or Parris Campbell, even Stanley Morgan.
I actually think we look to go DT in round one. It's a lot harder to find monster talent there later on. Any of Wilkins, Simmons, Tillery would suit me just fine and then grab WR and S in rounds 2-4.
And of course, if you can get a talented edge rusher at good value, you always take one.
I actually think we look to go DT in round one. It's a lot harder to find monster talent there later on. Any of Wilkins, Simmons, Tillery would suit me just fine and then grab WR and S in rounds 2-4.
And of course, if you can get a talented edge rusher at good value, you always take one.
Evans was a ILB at Bama and played ILB for the Titans as a rookie. He "might" be versatile to play OLB......I don't know. But even if he can, he hasn't done it before. So, for right now all we have is Landry (who is a very inexperienced sophomore), Wake (who'll be 38 this season and needs to play sparingly), Correa, and Finch.
Poor Marcus. He can't stay healthy. He's had 94 different offensive coordinators. He hasn't had a great number of weapons to throw to. But oddly enough, he has shown some really good potential. The emergence of Davis is huge. I really think Davis gets 1,100-1,200 yds and 8-10 TD's next yr. Getting Humphries is huge as well because Marcus will finally have a dump off chain mover. It'd be really nice to have a deep threat that could spread the defense though. But his health......ugh.....he has got to stay healthy. Supposedly he's added #10 and is eating better.....that's a start. And you can't blame the OL during his career either because he has had some really good OL's......at times....
What's more interesting is what the Titans might do next yr. If Marcus has a good/great season, then you extend him and move on. But what if he has a so-so season or gets hurt again? Do you extend him or move on? And what about Tannehill? Here is a guy who has proven multiple times that when he's healthy has has some weapons that he can throw for 4,000 yds with a 2:1 TD/INT ratio. Tannehill doesn't have the ceiling Marcus does, but if Marcus gets hurt and Tannehill comes in and balls.......would you re-sign Tannehill and let Marcus walk?
I like your thoughts on Irv Smith. Walker is 6'2" #248......Smith is 6'2" #242. And they are similar players in style. My main concern is value of the #19 pick. Many analysts have Smith as a end of 1st-early 2nd rd prospect. That's kinda how I see him as well. So, I wouldn't mind if the Titans traded down and then picked him up. But if you are targeting a TE, I'd rather have someone like Sternberger/Knox at #51 than Smith at #19.
I agree with the need but the only two ILBs with a first round grade will most likely be long gone by the Steelers 20th pick. The cost to move up 10 or so spots would be very high and the team has a lot of needs (ILB, CB, Edge, RB, WR and TE). Most projections are that they take a CB (one of Greedy Williams LSU, Murphy (Washington), Baker (UGA)). Joe Haden is the only decent CB left from last year and he is a free agent next year. Even crappy DB Artie Burns is a free agent next year. There are a bunch of ILBs with a round 3 grade and the Steelers have two picks in that round. My guess is that is when they get some help at that position.
Here is a list of the players that the Steelers have met with in various venues. It gives some insight into positional needs and player likes. They did meet with Mike Edwards and Benny.
https://www.behindthesteelcurtain.c...raft-interest-meetings-interviews-visits-news
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Thoughts Evans was an OLB, sounds like I’m wrong.
I don’t think they keep Mariota regardless. If they extend him it’s going to cost s fortune as he is 20M this year. Risk/Reward isn’t there regardless of potential. We got Tannehill to have a legit backup when(not if) Mariota is down.
LB is a huge need now that I look at it. Wake/Woodyard are both close to retirement I’d guess.
Last mock I saw had us taking Garret Bradbury(OG) at 19 and D’andre Walker(LB) at 51.
That’s 2 solid additions you can pencil in as starters. The issue is most of our needs are something, like you said, we could easily drop back for and add a pick.
I don’t think they keep Mariota regardless. If they extend him it’s going to cost s fortune as he is 20M this year. Risk/Reward isn’t there regardless of potential. We got Tannehill to have a legit backup when(not if) Mariota is down.
LB is a huge need now that I look at it. Wake/Woodyard are both close to retirement I’d guess.
Last mock I saw had us taking Garret Bradbury(OG) at 19 and D’andre Walker(LB) at 51.
That’s 2 solid additions you can pencil in as starters. The issue is most of our needs are something, like you said, we could easily drop back for and add a pick.
The hope is that Evans and Brown could become the future of the ILB when Woodyard.....but it'd be nice to have another option in the mix.
Walker would be a good choice in the 2nd....and the choices of Bradbury and Walker would be very pleasant. I like Winovich in the 2nd as well. Ferguson too. I'd rather not go with Polite.......he has bust written all over him. Personally I hope we don't wait till the 3rd rd.
Picking at #19 is tough. Most drafts have 1-3 elite prospects, 4-7 great prospects, and then 20-40 good prospects at the top before the rest of the draft class rounds it out. That means that you often have to be in the top 10-12 picks to get a shot at a great or elite prospect. Picking at #19 means you get a good shot at who you want from the 20-40 good prospects.......but then again, you're choosing a quality/value of prospect at #19 that you could get at #25. Since the Titans have flexibility to go with a number of options at #19......OLB, OL, TE, DL, WR.......it makes sense that they could drop back and still land someone that's high on our board. Gotta have a trade partner though.
I know he is, but some scouts are in love with his size, speed, and intangibles. One scout said while he has him 2nd / 3rd round, he could sneak into the 1st round. He has a lot of buzz leading up to the draft. Not saying he will go 1st round, just saying people think he could.
They signed george Iloka and will give Jeff heath more time (why i do not know), they will draft a SS at some point in the draft, but I do not think it will be 2nd round. Depends on his is there when they draft. Jerra has always taken the best player available in those situations no matter need.
They may go with Jonathan Abram from Miss State at safety. Maybe target Jake Sternberger TE from A&M, or Kahale Warring from San Diego State later.
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Actually a number of scouts have said this. Bucky Brooks was a former NFL player, scout, turned analyst. Lonnie is his #1 CB in this draft.....and he has talked to several organizations who view him the same.
That being said, this DB draft class is void of elite talent that should go really high in the 1st........but there's good depth in middle to late rds. We'll see how it impacts Lonnie.
I was actually talking to the Pittsburgh fan about Lonnie landing there. He was saying they needed a MLB, where as i think they need CB position. They got torched in the secondary last year.
The Bengals need a damn linebacker. Either of the Devins would be great. They might draft QB though or maybe left tackle. I hope they just do anything but stand pat. Trade up or trade down please.
I agree completely on the linebacker. I'd draft linebacker if either White or Bush was available. I wouldn't spend the first round pick on a quarterback, as they have too many other needs. O-line, and tight end are big needs as well.
Jets took the smart choice, even if it wasn't the one I wanted.
I still think Arizona is crazy for drafting Murray.
Giants made one of the biggest draft blunders in the last decade. They could have EASILY grabbed Josh Allen at 6, Dexter Lawrence at 17th and STILL gotten Jones at 30th (or even a bit beyond).
Meanwhile Redskins get the QB the Giants should have gotten, without moving at all.
I still think Arizona is crazy for drafting Murray.
Giants made one of the biggest draft blunders in the last decade. They could have EASILY grabbed Josh Allen at 6, Dexter Lawrence at 17th and STILL gotten Jones at 30th (or even a bit beyond).
Meanwhile Redskins get the QB the Giants should have gotten, without moving at all.