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Your NJ Devils have the #1 overall pick tonight.

For other out of state teams, NYR has the 7th and I think the 23rd.
Philadelphia has the 2nd overall pick.
 

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Your NJ Devils have the #1 overall pick tonight.

For other out of state teams, NYR has the 7th and I think the 23rd.
Philadelphia has the 2nd overall pick.
Too bad for the Devil's there is no superstar this year. That only happens when the Penguins or a Canadian team has #1. Looking forward to seeing who the Rangers pick tonight. Gonna miss Stepan.
 

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Big draft for the local teams. Hopefully translates to some good times over the next few years
 

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Nothing would be better than to have ALL of the northeast teams good at the same time.
 

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Too bad for the Devil's there is no superstar this year. That only happens when the Penguins or a Canadian team has #1. Looking forward to seeing who the Rangers pick tonight. Gonna miss Stepan.


You're forgetting when the league set up the draft for the Oilers.

Lastly- LETS GO ISLANDERS (and get me Duchene!)
 
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Do you guys actually believe the draft lotteries are fixed? When they do the drawing there are representatives from the teams in the room. Do you think every team is complicit in fixing the lottery?

 
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Love that the Devils drafted Nico. Definately wanted him over Nolan. Nico imo is a more dynamic playmaker but would be happy either way. Devils are assembling a nice core of young forwards Zacha, McLeod, Speers, now adding a true first line center. Just gotta work on the putrid D.
 

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Love that the Devils drafted Nico. Definately wanted him over Nolan. Nico imo is a more dynamic playmaker but would be happy either way. Devils are assembling a nice core of young forwards Zacha, McLeod, Speers, now adding a true first line center. Just gotta work on the putrid D.
That was what I hoped for as well. Historically, the Devils never go for the flashier player. I'm glad they did this time. Plus, my 15 year old daughter took one look at him and asked if I could get his jersey for her.
 

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Let's hope so. He has a ton of skill and his playmaking ability is off the charts.
 

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I love getting rid of Stepan.
But WTF...with the 7th pick we just re-drafted a Jesper Fast clone who scores 10 goals on a good year.
Why not a bonafide offensive dynamo who put up ridiculous goal numbers in junior or over seas?
I'll teach him defense
 

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I love getting rid of Stepan.
But WTF...with the 7th pick we just re-drafted a Jesper Fast clone who scores 10 goals on a good year.
Why not a bonafide offensive dynamo who put up ridiculous goal numbers in junior or over seas?
I'll teach him defense
Not a rangers fan but cant criticize the pick too much. A bit of a reach for sure but the numbers he put up were in a mens league not a major junior league so its comparing apples to oranges in thay regard. Not saying he will be all world but he may be ready to contribute faster than other prospects with a similar skill set and draft position.
 

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Personally i cant believe Vilardi fell that far. When i thought the Devils were picking around 5 he is who i wanted them to pick.
 

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I can't believe the Devils took forwards in round 2 and with their first round 3 pick. Not like we need defensemen or anything. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Shero is an idiot.
 

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Love that the Devils drafted Nico. Definately wanted him over Nolan. Nico imo is a more dynamic playmaker but would be happy either way. Devils are assembling a nice core of young forwards Zacha, McLeod, Speers, now adding a true first line center. Just gotta work on the putrid D.
Awful pick, Nolan is going to be much better. Total boot by the Devils!
 

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Awful pick, Nolan is going to be much better. Total boot by the Devils!
You clearly don't follow hockey at all. You may like Patrick better but to call the pick awful makes you look clueless. Most major scouting sites and insider mocks have Nico and Nolan some combination of 1 and 2. That is the consensus period.

Are you a Devils fan or just stirring the pot like you do with every other topic?
 

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I can't believe the Devils took forwards in round 2 and with their first round 3 pick. Not like we need defensemen or anything. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Shero is an idiot.
I agree we need defenseman but don't reach for need when best player available is there. Many projected 2ND round defenseman went mid to late first. Devils cant afford to waste a pick on need. Devils lack speed and talent across the board. This is a major rebuild and we did trade for a young puck moving defenseman Mueller before the draft so Shero is aware. He may have other trades in mind or signings. Shattenkirk maybe? Devils are bad offensively also keep in mind. We did draft Reilly in the 3rd round also.
 

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I can't believe the Devils took forwards in round 2 and with their first round 3 pick. Not like we need defensemen or anything. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Shero is an idiot.

Bro, check yourself before you make yourself look like a total buffoon.

You always draft BPA in the first 2-3 rounds. Always.

Shero has done INCREDIBLE things so far in only a few seasons, get a grip.
 
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Bro, check yourself before you make yourself look like a total buffoon.

You always draft BPA in the first 2-3 rounds. Always.

Shero has done INCREDIBLE things so far in only a few seasons, get a grip.
Mrs. Shero? Is that you? Clearly you don't know an awful lot about hockey, that's for sure. Yes, what your husband has done IS incredible. He protected the absolute worst player statistically on the team in John Moore, gave up a 2nd rounder and downgraded from a 4th to a 5th to get and protect Mueller, who is so INCREDIBLE that he spent all but four games in the minors this season, and in this process lost Merrill for nothing.
He can draft all the undersized speedy little European forwards he wants and it will do zero good when our farm system is full of 5th to 7th round picks for defensemen and John F***ing Moore is on the big club watching pucks go in our net.
 

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Devils drafted a gifted offensive defenseman who's headed to Harvard this Fall.
Reilly Walsh, keep an eye on him.
He seems good, but I've watched too many of these kids over the years so I can't get too excited yet. We'll see how these drafts pan out in five years or so, I guess.
 

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Mrs. Shero? Is that you? Clearly you don't know an awful lot about hockey, that's for sure. Yes, what your husband has done IS incredible. He protected the absolute worst player statistically on the team in John Moore, gave up a 2nd rounder and downgraded from a 4th to a 5th to get and protect Mueller, who is so INCREDIBLE that he spent all but four games in the minors this season, and in this process lost Merrill for nothing.
He can draft all the undersized speedy little European forwards he wants and it will do zero good when our farm system is full of 5th to 7th round picks for defensemen and John F***ing Moore is on the big club watching pucks go in our net.
I agree John Moore sucks and the Mueller trade seemed an odd use of assets upon first glance but he is Swiss and was probably brought in to help Hischier assimilate better. The European comment makes little sense though. Do you just not like european players? The average player drafted was 6 foot which is about league average. Popugaev is a beast at 6'5 or 6'6 depending on the source. We have been a slow unexciting team for a while so I for one welcome "speedy" anything. Shero is not perfect but he is sticking to a plan of rebuilding with youth. As great as Lou was pre lockout his and Contes drafting and player development was brutal for about 10 years. They rarely took flyers on talented europeans in later rounds instead focusing on low ceiling safe north American players with little to no upside.
 

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I agree John Moore sucks and the Mueller trade seemed an odd use of assets upon first glance but he is Swiss and was probably brought in to help Hischier assimilate better. The European comment makes little sense though. Do you just not like european players? The average player drafted was 6 foot which is about league average. Popugaev is a beast at 6'5 or 6'6 depending on the source. We have been a slow unexciting team for a while so I for one welcome "speedy" anything. Shero is not perfect but he is sticking to a plan of rebuilding with youth. As great as Lou was pre lockout his and Contes drafting and player development was brutal for about 10 years. They rarely took flyers on talented europeans in later rounds instead focusing on low ceiling safe north American players with little to no upside.
My feeling on European kids is that generally the North American style of play and the smaller ice surface make for a big adjustment, especially the ones that are still playing in Europe when drafted. There are many great NHL'ers from Europe, don't get me wrong, but to draft seven of your ten skaters from Europe seems excessive.

I definitely have to say that there was some real value at certain picks based on Central Scouting's rankings, like Nikita Pops in the fourth, ranked 28th among NA skaters, and the Chainey kid they took in the 7th that most ppl expected to go in the 5th or 6th.

The other thing I have been trying to see is if there has been anything about the CBA. The NHL and NHLPA can opt out in two years, and although I hope it doesn't happen, there has been a trend the last few years that has been growing of US college players playing out their full four years at their school then simply not signing with the team that drafted them. They then become what the CBA calls a "draft related unrestricted free agent" on August 15th after graduating. Three of the defensemen we've drafted in the last two years are in college or college bound- Davies, Walsh, and Hellickson. If any of them turns out to be a home run, we may well lose them anyway.
 

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Mrs. Shero? Is that you? Clearly you don't know an awful lot about hockey, that's for sure. Yes, what your husband has done IS incredible. He protected the absolute worst player statistically on the team in John Moore, gave up a 2nd rounder and downgraded from a 4th to a 5th to get and protect Mueller, who is so INCREDIBLE that he spent all but four games in the minors this season, and in this process lost Merrill for nothing.
He can draft all the undersized speedy little European forwards he wants and it will do zero good when our farm system is full of 5th to 7th round picks for defensemen and John F***ing Moore is on the big club watching pucks go in our net.

Holy Christ, so this freeboard is total trash for hockey too. Color me shocked.

Shero's brilliant moves from prior seasons (Palmieri, Hall) aside:

Moore is one of the few play drivers on the back end according to actual statistics. He's not great, but he's a better player than Merrill, and I don't think we'll miss him much.

The Sharks butchered Mueller's development, that much is for sure. I personally wouldn't have dropped a 2nd on him, but hey that's the "former first round pick" royalty you pay. I think, given a shot, this could work out very similarly to the Palmieri trade.

"Losing Merrill for nothing" lol

You're part of the bottom-feeder "Fans of the NJ Devils" facebook group aren't you? You should turn elsewhere to develop a more fully informed opinion friend.
 

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My feeling on European kids is that generally the North American style of play and the smaller ice surface make for a big adjustment, especially the ones that are still playing in Europe when drafted. There are many great NHL'ers from Europe, don't get me wrong, but to draft seven of your ten skaters from Europe seems excessive.
About half of the Europeans the Devils drafted this year have been playing in North America for at least a full year now. Zetterlund hasn't, but at the 2016 World U17 Hockey Challenge, which is played on North American rinks, he was among the top scorers on the gold medal-winning Swedish team despite being the third youngest player on the roster. I know tournaments are a small sample size, but still worth noting I think if you're concerned about adapting to North American hockey.

Either way, the scouts know a hell of a lot more about all of these players than any fans discussing them on a message board. Generally speaking, I always think it's silly to criticize draft picks unless it's something really off the wall, just as I think fans usually sound kind of stupid when they talk about who should have gone in a shootout, etc--the coaching staff sees these guys at practice every day, they know them better than the fans do.
 

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That was what I hoped for as well. Historically, the Devils never go for the flashier player. I'm glad they did this time. Plus, my 15 year old daughter took one look at him and asked if I could get his jersey for her.

My 18 year old daughter did not ask for a jersey (yet), but my wife made mention of how cute he is.

o_Oo_Oo_Oo_O
 
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I can't believe the Devils took forwards in round 2 and with their first round 3 pick. Not like we need defensemen or anything. Guess I shouldn't be surprised. Shero is an idiot.

The Devils don't put the puck in the net. They have a capable goaltender who can hold the others teams to 1 and 2 goals. But when he holds them to 1 and 2 goals, and the Devils score only 0 to 1 goal, there is a problem. The Devils have traditionally been very light on skilled offensive players. They need guys who can skate and bury the puck in the net.

Awful pick, Nolan is going to be much better. Total boot by the Devils!

That's pretty funny. You will be labeled a genius if he is a total boot and proves just about every single pro hockey analyst wrong.