Nike Lawyer drops a bomb

KozmasAgain

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I can’t stomach Avenatti but he accidentally has done something good for once. Hopefully the judge won’t be paid off and he will let more come out.
 

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I can’t stomach Avenatti but he accidentally has done something good for once. Hopefully the judge won’t be paid off and he will let more come out.

Don’t expect too much more info regarding paying players, Judge has been quoted saying “Nike is not on trial here.”
 

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Don’t expect too much more info regarding paying players, Judge has been quoted saying “Nike is not on trial here.”
You're not interested in an indictment. You're interested in evidence. "Info on paying players" is some of what the guy needs to clear himself...
 
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I can’t stomach Avenatti but he accidentally has done something good for once. Hopefully the judge won’t be paid off and he will let more come out.
he seems to be good at exposing the dirt under the grass
 

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That’s ok. They will just get Dershowitz to say what’s happen in the past is in the past and there’s nothing to be gained by punishing players who are no longer there and as long as they’re not doing it now. Wink. Wink.
 

kentuckyshame

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You're not interested in an indictment. You're interested in evidence. "Info on paying players" is some of what the guy needs to clear himself...

The judge was speaking directly to the payment of players by Nike when he made the comment that “Nike is not on trial here” according to reports. I’m like you that it seems that the evidence of Nike paying players will play a big part in the defense so I don’t know how the judge expects them to get around this.
 

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Nike is gonna push until they know he’s got them on something, then they’ll try and make a deal if something starts heading their way.
 

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The results of the trial really doesn’t matter but the NCAA now has a Nike attorney saying Nike paid players. The question is what will the NCAA do with that nugget.

Literally everyone has players that received an illegal benefit at some point. The the NCAA will be selectively enforcing when everyone was benefiting from the show companies. This only reaffirms the position UK and Duke were actively and knowingly involved in the scheme.
 

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You're not interested in an indictment. You're interested in evidence. "Info on paying players" is some of what the guy needs to clear himself...
Not really, he tried to use this information to shake Nike down for millions.
 

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I agree Zipp if he wants to prove his side of the story he is going to have to give evidence on which schools Nike was sending players to and how much they were paid.
 
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A double whammy here is that Worldwide Wes might be going to the N.Y. Knicks. That would end the funneling of players to certain schools. Wouldn’t that be a hoot that sUcK would actually have to recruit on their own.
 

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When the entire system is corrupt what can the NCAA do? Nike controls 95% of the elite players. Their attorney doesn’t deny they paid players. The Adidas trial basically lines out how the money flowed which is the same as Nike. Now HBO will have the Christian Dawkins documentary further detailing how the system worked.

The NCAA can’t punish everyone and can’t selectively enforce because the entire system has been exposed.

I still find it amusing ESPN has ignored the entire story. College basketball is corrupt and they don’t care.
 
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He's in court now. He needs the best proof possible that his information is true...
Well so far he has given the courts nothing, the one witness that AAU coach turned on him, the guy is a slime ball, (not saying Nike hasn't dones stuff) but this guys is nothing but a joke, he has swindled just about every client he has had over the last few years, seems to blow money like it was nothing, then tries to shake Nike down for millions.
 

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When the entire system is corrupt what can the NCAA do? Nike controls 95% of the elite players. Their attorney doesn’t deny they paid players. The Adidas trial basically lines out how the money flowed which is the same as Nike. Now HBO will have the Christian Dawkins documentary further detailing how the system worked.

The NCAA can’t punish everyone and can’t selectively enforce because the entire system has been exposed.

I still find it amusing ESPN has ignored the entire story. College basketball is corrupt and they don’t care.

Espn covered the fbi trial when the focus was on adidas, front page of college b-ball section everyday.
 

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Well so far he has given the courts nothing, the one witness that AAU coach turned on him, the guy is a slime ball, (not saying Nike hasn't dones stuff) but this guys is nothing but a joke, he has swindled just about every client he has had over the last few years, seems to blow money like it was nothing, then tries to shake Nike down for millions.
And Marty Blazer - the linchpin of the Adidas scandal is a choir boy. Sheesh.
 

Trinity45

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And Marty Blazer - the linchpin of the Adidas scandal is a choir boy. Sheesh.
Hey did not say Nike is not culpable, just pointing out good ole Michael is a slime ball, has been his entire life and the trail is not about Nike being guilty it is about Mike trying to black mail Nike for millions, if you want to hate on Nike be my guest, I haven't bought a pair of Nikes in years, they are cheaply made pieces of crap in my opinion.
 

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Hey did not say Nike is not culpable, just pointing out good ole Michael is a slime ball, has been his entire life and the trail is not about Nike being guilty it is about Mike trying to black mail Nike for millions, if you want to hate on Nike be my guest, I haven't bought a pair of Nikes in years, they are cheaply made pieces of crap in my opinion.

My point is that it’s usually shady people that are involved with and bring to light shady things. Avenatti is a screwball but he has receipts in addition to witnesses corroborating that shady crap went on.
 

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My point is that it’s usually shady people that are involved with and bring to light shady things. Avenatti is a screwball but he has receipts in addition to witnesses corroborating that shady crap went on.

Nike is most likely guilty but so far Avenatti has not produced much to help his cause. Right now I would say he may have a long vacation.
 

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Nike is most likely guilty but so far Avenatti has not produced much to help his cause. Right now I would say he may have a long vacation.

Not most likely, they are, their lawyers did not deny payments to players earlier in the trial.
 

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The system completely collapsed on the NCAAs watch. What started out 50 years ago as kids play for a free education and we’ll enforce no extra benefits became elite kids play for money from shoe companies. It’s unilateral, it’s legal, and it’s simply what the system has become.
 

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Not most likely, they are, their lawyers did not deny payments to players earlier in the trial.
In my opinion AAU ball is a corrupt system anyway, most of the coaches can't really coach, they are only in it for a free ride, Nike and others are just making it worse. But sticking to Aventti, he is the one on trail, not Nike, who knows maybe the FBI starts another investigation??????
 

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In my opinion AAU ball is a corrupt system anyway, most of the coaches can't really coach, they are only in it for a free ride, Nike and others are just making it worse. But sticking to Aventti, he is the one on trail, not Nike, who knows maybe the FBI starts another investigation??????

The issue for Nike is what has been said in that trial, what documents Avenatti has and what might still come out in the course of the trial. There certainly is enough already for the NCAA to investigate.
 

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Well so far he has given the courts nothing, the one witness that AAU coach turned on him, the guy is a slime ball, (not saying Nike hasn't dones stuff) but this guys is nothing but a joke, he has swindled just about every client he has had over the last few years, seems to blow money like it was nothing, then tries to shake Nike down for millions.
Again, no one here much cares about Avenatti and only a little more whether he brings down Nike. The issue is whether he provides names and evidence that the NCAA can use with other ex-players and schools. I have no interest in how well he looks on a witness stand nor whether he's exonerated. He's the Katina Powell in this chapter of the saga, a scumbag willing to talk...
 
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The NCAA has had this wonderful cash cow, with high quality low priced labor, funded by shoe companies. Now, they may be faced with a crossroads decision. Disqualify massive numbers of their cash producing labor force, or change the rules on amateurism. What will they do, if it comes to it...
 

Trinity45

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Again, no one here much cares about Avenatti and only a little more whether he brings down Nike. The issue is whether he provides names and evidence that the NCAA can use with other ex-players and schools. I have no interest in how well he looks on a witness stand nor whether he's exonerated. He's the Katina Powell in this chapter of the saga, a scumbag willing to talk...

True but so far, he has not provide much of anything, they had closing arguments yesterday. Just saying don't pin your hopes on that scum bag bringing Nike down, just think he was trying to score 20 mil with nothing.
 

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Looks like Mike is going to be doing some time, only time will tell if the NCAA investigates any of this. DOJ does not have to provide the NCAA with anything that was submitted to court so they will have to do their own leg work.
 

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Ol Mike looking at 42 years, probably won’t serve a quarter of that. Who cares, I think everyone knew the guy was guilty, but his trial exposed payments by Nike directed to Ayton, Bol Bol, and a third I can’t remember, via the AAU circuit. The NCAA has enough to go after Arizona, and Oregon, but will they be smart enough to investigate the major Nike players in uk, and duke? After all those two schools were where the majority of the best recruits were going.
 

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Ol Mike looking at 42 years, probably won’t serve a quarter of that. Who cares, I think everyone knew the guy was guilty, but his trial exposed payments by Nike directed to Ayton, Bol Bol, and a third I can’t remember, via the AAU circuit. The NCAA has enough to go after Arizona, and Oregon, but will they be smart enough to investigate the major Nike players in uk, and duke? After all those two schools were where the majority of the best recruits were going.

They (the NCAA) might go after uahkay eventually but Duke is sacrosanct. At least it most certainly appears that way. If I were uahkay I’d be a bit more nervous than I was prior to yesterday. If only some local media outlet would screw up enough courage to do investigative pieces on the cayuts. Maybe that would be expecting too much.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 

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They (the NCAA) might go after uahkay eventually but Duke is sacrosanct. At least it most certainly appears that way. If I were uahkay I’d be a bit more nervous than I was prior to yesterday. If only some local media outlet would screw up enough courage to do investigative pieces on the cayuts. Maybe that would be expecting too much.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!

You’d think the fact that uk recruiting literally changed overnight when Cow was hired that it would have raised a few red flags with some at least local reporters, but no, heads stay buried, even after revelations of Nike paying recruits in Avenatti Trial. We need a local investigative reporter along the lines of Ed O’Neil from Blue Chips.