No. 2 pick Sarr making Justin Edwards look good

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Washington Wizards center Alexandre Sarr, the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft, went through some growing pains on Tuesday night in a Las Vegas Summer League game against the Portland Trail Blazers. Sarr didn't score in 30 minutes of action, going 0-for-15 from the field and 0-for-7 from 3-point range. ESPN Stats & Information discovered it was the most field-goal attempts without a basket in Summer League action since at least 2017. He also shot 0-for-2 at the foul line. Despite the putrid shooting display, Sarr did haul in nine rebounds while dishing out three assists and blocking three shots in Washington's 82-80 loss. In three Summer League games, Sarr has averaged 6.7 points, 6.7 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 3.0 blocks. He is shooting just 19.5 percent overall and 11.8 percent from deep. The Wizards are 1-2 in Las Vegas.

Read more at: https://www.kentucky.com/sports/nba/article290150254.html#storylink=cpy
 

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We had always heard it was a weak class for star power coming into college and that it was also a weak draft. The fact that the top 5 players coming out of HS that played college basketball were:

1. Isaiah Collier - 29th pick
2. Aaron Bradshaw - returning
3. Justin Edwards - undrafted
4. Cody Williams - 10th pick
5. DJ Wagner - returning

That is unprecedented. Edwards is the first top 3 HS recruit to not be drafted since recruiting rankings started. And now you have someone like Sarr struggling. Who knows what the future holds for a lot of these guys, but seems players ranked lower coming out of HS are going to have a higher impact than the top guys.
 

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I have the #2 pick in my NBA dynasty league this year and it feels like a forgone conclusion that Sheppard will go #1. Who would you all take with that second pick? Right now Im thinking Dilly or Castle but not overly thrilled about either.
What stats are in play? Is it a points system or roto?

If you can't get Sheppard, then I don't think you could go wrong with Dillingham or Castle. I would also give some consideration to Clingan or Edey if you need those types of big man stats (blocks, rebounds, FG%).
 

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Washington Wizards center Alexandre Sarr, the No. 2 overall pick in this year's draft, went through some growing pains on Tuesday night in a Las Vegas Summer League game against the Portland Trail Blazers. Sarr didn't score in 30 minutes of action, going 0-for-15 from the field and 0-for-7 from 3-point range. ESPN Stats & Information discovered it was the most field-goal attempts without a basket in Summer League action since at least 2017. He also shot 0-for-2 at the foul line. Despite the putrid shooting display, Sarr did haul in nine rebounds while dishing out three assists and blocking three shots in Washington's 82-80 loss. In three Summer League games, Sarr has averaged 6.7 points, 6.7 rebounds, 3.0 assists and 3.0 blocks. He is shooting just 19.5 percent overall and 11.8 percent from deep. The Wizards are 1-2 in Las Vegas.

Read more at: https://www.kentucky.com/sports/nba/article290150254.html#storylink=cpy
He plays a lot like his brother I see.
 

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I have the #2 pick in my NBA dynasty league this year and it feels like a forgone conclusion that Sheppard will go #1. Who would you all take with that second pick? Right now Im thinking Dilly or Castle but not overly thrilled about either.
Definitely Castle or Dilly. I’d honestly take Terrance Shannon over just about anyone outside them. Maybe Clingan.
 
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I have the #2 pick in my NBA dynasty league this year and it feels like a forgone conclusion that Sheppard will go #1. Who would you all take with that second pick? Right now Im thinking Dilly or Castle but not overly thrilled about either.
I think every time I saw Castle play it made me think that guy was gonna be an NBA star. Not to take anything away from Dilly, but I love Castle's game. But, fantasy is a different value system than just looking good.
 

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I think every time I saw Castle play it made me think that guy was gonna be an NBA star. Not to take anything away from Dilly, but I love Castle's game. But, fantasy is a different value system than just looking good.

I would probably lean Dilly for dynasty. Although, I'd need to look at each's team surrounding them (Dilly does have more talent that will command touches, but at the same time, the T-Wolves are going to compete and he will get lots of looks, even on the 2nd unit).

My problem with Castle from a fantasy perspective.. he can't shoot well, and that was on a pro-style offense that was made for open looks and movement. That doesn't bode well for year 1 of his fantasy career. BUT, being a dynasty player.. maybe you take him and ride it out, in hopes he fixes his shooting and turns into a true top3 player in the draft (or maybe TOP player in the draft).
 

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Does the OP actually ever post their own thoughts around these constant links he/she posts? I swear they are trying to win a contest or set a record for most links posted on this board.

My thought is if you're just going to post links and stories, you should have to give your own opinions on them which highlight why you posted them.
 
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I think every time I saw Castle play it made me think that guy was gonna be an NBA star. Not to take anything away from Dilly, but I love Castle's game. But, fantasy is a different value system than just looking good.
Yeah I think he’s gonna be really good. I can’t believe I read people on here saying UCONN didn’t have much talent. I mean Castle and Clingan are as good as anyone, and Cam Spencer was a ridiculously great college player and still made the pros. Then Karaban who is a fringe pro, 3 guys from last years team went pro. Those were all time great squads. Their pieces fit together well, they played better together on both sides of the ball better than any team I watched all year by far. They won the tourney easily.
 
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John Wall aside, the Wizards have a long history of consistently picking the wrong players. Which is why they’re the Wizards.
Wall and Beal but other than that they picked the worst player they could’ve selected. Many of them overseas guys too the fact that they had wall and Beal and never gave them a big man better than marcin gortat or a past his prime Nene is really sad.
 

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Why is Justin Edwards catching strays?
Edwards catches strays because he has a much higher opinion of himself than the facts present.
Also Edwards was used as a pawn by our former coach to make his agent happy. JE should've been a bench role player and was a 30 min a game player who gave pretty much nothing to the cause of winning most games he catches strays like Wagner because much better players sit the bench at the cost of our program to pump Cals 5 stars and their camps ego.
 

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Edwards catches strays because he has a much higher opinion of himself than the facts present.
Also Edwards was used as a pawn by our former coach to make his agent happy. JE should've been a bench role player and was a 30 min a game player who gave pretty much nothing to the cause of winning most games he catches strays like Wagner because much better players sit the bench at the cost of our program to pump Cals 5 stars and their camps ego.
Because he has a high opinion of himself and his coach played him? Well there’s a special place in hell for that. If only there were a way to support a good kid who always had a good attitude but just didn’t play as well as we wanted instead of constantly trashing him, that would be something.
 

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Because he has a high opinion of himself and his coach played him? Well there’s a special place in hell for that. If only there were a way to support a good kid who always had a good attitude but just didn’t play as well as we wanted instead of constantly trashing him, that would be something.
He could've actually stayed/transfered and got better that way he ain't out of the league next year. No remorse for kids who make bad decisions based on stupidity. If you claim stuff don't be shocked when people call you on it being BS.
 

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He plays a lot like his brother I see.
That was my concern when I heard he was considered #1. Hawks dodged a matzah ball when Sarr wouldn't work out for them.
That takes me back to when Chipper Jones was drafted by the Braves #1 overall. Remember the guy who snubbed the Braves saying he didn't want to play there?
Probably no one recalls his name and he was a shoe-in overall top prospect.
 
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That was my concern when I heard he was considered #1. Hawks dodged a matzah ball when Sarr wouldn't work out for them.
That takes me back to when Chipper Jones was drafted by the Braves #1 overall. Remember the guy who snubbed the Braves saying he didn't want to play there?
Probably no one recalls his name and he was a shoe-in overall top prospect.
That’s my favorite as well, Chipper is my favorite player ever.
 
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That’s my favorite as well, Chipper is my favorite player ever.

I grew up absolutely loathing Chipper Jones. Arrogant, cocky, typical Brave. But when he retired he said some really crazy sht about the cardinals it shocked me. Talked about playing in front of cardinals fans was a one in a kind deal. Gained a lot of respect for him, and of course looking back, we won’t see many guys like chipper or Yadi who stay true to their organizations and respect the game for what it is. I think chipper really matured as he got older and these days I like him fine. The two players I grew up hating just about more than anyone turns into players I have a lot of respect for. Kobe Bryant and Chipper Jones.

Funny story. Mid 2,000’s I was at the Hyatt hotel in STL and chipper jones was in the bar next to me. Saw him a lot back then and in the late 90’s, chipper had a different woman constantly on the road in STL. He approached a woman directly in front of my father and I and started hitting on her. She was acting disinterested and chipper said “don’t you know who I am”. She told him word for word “I don’t give a f*** who you are”. Chipper sort of chuckled and said okay then or something, like your loss type of deal and walked out. 🤣

Chip retired and said he’s gonna think nothing about baseball and hit the deer stand. I know exactly what he means as someone who played through baseball. Hard sport to get out of your head after you play so long and he knew if he thought about it it would kill him.
 

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I would probably lean Dilly for dynasty. Although, I'd need to look at each's team surrounding them (Dilly does have more talent that will command touches, but at the same time, the T-Wolves are going to compete and he will get lots of looks, even on the 2nd unit).

My problem with Castle from a fantasy perspective.. he can't shoot well, and that was on a pro-style offense that was made for open looks and movement. That doesn't bode well for year 1 of his fantasy career. BUT, being a dynasty player.. maybe you take him and ride it out, in hopes he fixes his shooting and turns into a true top3 player in the draft (or maybe TOP player in the draft).
isn't he also injury prone?
 

LineSkiCat14

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isn't he also injury prone?

Is he? you could be right. Im not sure. I just don't love these system type players. Could Stephon Castle be the real deal? Or course. But he could also be a guy that thrived in a system that seemingly made everyone look great, while making their opponents look silly. That won't be the case in the NBA.

It's almost like, for the same reason I expect Reed, Dilly and Edwards to be better than expected because of our poor coaching.. I expect the inverse for Uconn. Its a round about way of saying Cal sucked and Hurley is legit lol.
 

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Does the OP actually ever post their own thoughts around these constant links he/she posts? I swear they are trying to win a contest or set a record for most links posted on this board.

My thought is if you're just going to post links and stories, you should have to give your own opinions on them which highlight why you posted them.

Hard disagree. Smash keeps me in the loop of what’s happening. He’s the best blogger in college sports precisely because he doesn’t have to share his opinion.
 

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We had always heard it was a weak class for star power coming into college and that it was also a weak draft. The fact that the top 5 players coming out of HS that played college basketball were:

1. Isaiah Collier - 29th pick
2. Aaron Bradshaw - returning
3. Justin Edwards - undrafted
4. Cody Williams - 10th pick
5. DJ Wagner - returning
People wonder why hs players want to skip college or have mysterious injuries that cause them not to play.

All 5 of these players would have been drafted in last year’s draft and would’ve been guaranteed several million dollars!

As long as NBA is willing to throw millions of guaranteed $ to unproven players then you’ll see more hs players hide away for a year or have mysterious injuries. (BTW- I think Vanderbilt’s injuries were real.)

I get that all teams are looking for the next Wemby and it was a weak draft. However, I’ll never fault a player for taking a guaranteed contract because returning rarely works out for end of 1st round players who want to try to move top of the next draft.

Take the guaranteed $ and work on your game at the next level!
 
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Edwards catches strays because he has a much higher opinion of himself than the facts present.
Also Edwards was used as a pawn by our former coach to make his agent happy. JE should've been a bench role player and was a 30 min a game player who gave pretty much nothing to the cause of winning most games he catches strays like Wagner because much better players sit the bench at the cost of our program to pump Cals 5 stars and their camps ego.
Like who? Who sit the bench
 

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Because he has a high opinion of himself and his coach played him? Well there’s a special place in hell for that. If only there were a way to support a good kid who always had a good attitude but just didn’t play as well as we wanted instead of constantly trashing him, that would be something.
Or, ya know, you could get your head out of your anus. Just a thought.
 

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What's funny to me, and so predictable, is that sports executives all desperately overreact to whatever the trend is.

Wembanyama put up big numbers as a rookie so 3 of the first 6 picks this year are French.
 

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Because he has a high opinion of himself and his coach played him? Well there’s a special place in hell for that. If only there were a way to support a good kid who always had a good attitude but just didn’t play as well as we wanted instead of constantly trashing him, that would be something.
He did say he was the best player in the draft, and unironically I might add.
I like the dude, but he needs to prove something before he starts spouting that.
 

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All that talent around him and Chipper Jones only won one world series.
Correct, but it was not just the Atlanta Chipper Jones. There was 8 other positions, depth, pitching rotation, and bull pen to consider. All and All I highly DOUBT Chipper was the reason the Braves only won 1 World Series during his time. Especially true in baseball, ONE stud player is not winning a WS. If you do not have pitching, you are not winning. Last I checked, Chipper did not pitch.

22 year career : .303 BA. / 468 HR's / 2726 hits / 549 doubles / 38 triples / 1623 RBI

In the 08 season at the age of 36, won the batting title, .0364 average.

From 95-08 (14 seasons) .310 BA / 384 HR /28 HR per year. He did his part.