No coach will ever win as many games as Coach K

timritterus

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I don't think so either. A couple big reasons are because we don't see coaches start that young often anymore (I believe K was 27 or 28 when he started). Another is how rare it has become for a coach to have this kind of longevity in the college game. Many get bounced when they go through tough times (early years for K) or decide they want a new challenge like the NBA. Not to mention he's the best at what he's done. So I agree, I doubt it will be broken. At least not for a long, long time.
 
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dopeshop23

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To put it context, if he stops at around 1300. You could subtract a 1000 games and it would be a good career for most other coaches. A 15 year career of 20 wins, not bad right.
 

skysdad

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The only way I can see anyone getting more is if Coach K does retire in a couple of years and hof coach roy williams decides to coach until he passes Coach K which should take him a while. At least until he's around 80 years old. Wouldn't put it past him though. Maybe Coach K will retire when hof coach roy williams retires just to frustrate him. :D OFC
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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I don’t know if we’ll ever see a college basketball coach pass Coach K in career wins. We’ll probably see some more high school basketball coaches that will end up with more career wins than Coach K because there are already several high school basketball coaches that have more career wins than Coach K and high school basketball coaches tend to stay at the same school for most of if not all of their coaching careers like Coach K has been at Duke for most of his coaching career.
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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Calipari has a shot. But lots of things happen when you get older that could stop a career. We OFC's should know:(
Based on both of their current career win totals and their wins per season averages, Calipari (709 career wins) is averaging 26.3 wins per season for his career and Coach K (1132 career wins) is averaging 28.3 wins per season for his career, Calipari would most likely need to coach for around 20 more seasons with Coach K retiring in the next few seasons for Calipari to end up with more career wins than Coach K. With their current per season win averages, if Coach K (72 years old) were to retire in 3 years after he turns 75 (2022) then Calipari (60 years old) would probably need to coach until he’s 80 (2039) for him to have a realistic chance to pass Coach K in career wins. Of course that’s al hypothetical speculation because there’s really no way to know when either of them will retire.
 

skysdad

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Based on both of their current career win totals and their wins per season averages, Calipari (709 career wins) is averaging 26.3 wins per season for his career and Coach K (1132 career wins) is averaging 28.3 wins per season for his career, Calipari would most likely need to coach for around 20 more seasons with Coach K retiring in the next few seasons for Calipari to end up with more career wins than Coach K. With their current per season win averages, if Coach K (72 years old) were to retire in 3 years after he turns 75 (2022) then Calipari (60 years old) would probably need to coach until he’s 80 (2039) for him to have a realistic chance to pass Coach K in career wins. Of course that’s al hypothetical speculation because there’s really no way to know when either of them will retire.


Good research. OFC
 
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Liftee

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To give us an idea of how hard it will be to break Coach K's record, when Jon Scheyer becomes Duke HC at the age of 36, averages 30 wins a year for 40 years, retires at age 76, he will have (only) 1200 wins. Good only for second to K's 1250-1300.
 

SwatX1

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To give us an idea of how hard it will be to break Coach K's record, when Jon Scheyer becomes Duke HC at the age of 36, averages 30 wins a year for 40 years, retires at age 76, he will have (only) 1200 wins. Good only for second to K's 1250-1300.


That really puts it into perspective. I think the record is safe
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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No coach in Men's Basketball for sure. Women's.... who knows. Less parity in the women's game.
I agree that there’s no parity in Women’s basketball because women’s teams seem to go through stretches where the same teams win a ton of games. To put it into perspective, Geno Auriemma has been coaching the UConn women since the 1985-86 season and he has 1062 career wins which puts him 70 career wins behind Coach K. Realistically he could have a chance to end up with more career wins than Coach K. Once Coach K retires Geno Auriemma would probably need to coach for 3-4 more easons after Coach K retires for him to pass Coach K in career wins. He just turned 65 years old in March.
 
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Based on both of their current career win totals and their wins per season averages, Calipari (709 career wins) is averaging 26.3 wins per season for his career and Coach K (1132 career wins) is averaging 28.3 wins per season for his career, Calipari would most likely need to coach for around 20 more seasons with Coach K retiring in the next few seasons for Calipari to end up with more career wins than Coach K. With their current per season win averages, if Coach K (72 years old) were to retire in 3 years after he turns 75 (2022) then Calipari (60 years old) would probably need to coach until he’s 80 (2039) for him to have a realistic chance to pass Coach K in career wins. Of course that’s al hypothetical speculation because there’s really no way to know when either of them will retire.

Not that it matters because he’ll probably never catch Coach K, but since he’s been at Kentucky his average wins per season is 30.5, I just think that should be the number you use if you’re trying to determine how long it would take to catch him, which again will probably never happen. I think Coach K has put it out of reach.
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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Not that it matters because he’ll probably never catch Coach K, but since he’s been at Kentucky his average wins per season is 30.5, I just think that should be the number you use if you’re trying to determine how long it would take to catch him, which again will probably never happen. I think Coach K has put it out of reach.
You must be a Kentucky fan because Kentucky anc UNC are always trying to use smaller sample sizes to make their team and coaches look better.
 

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I just don't see it happening. Some of it has to do with the todays world obviously.....would Coach K have made it out of those first few seasons now days?
 

skysdad

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You must be a Kentucky fan because Kentucky anc UNC are always trying to use smaller sample sizes to make their team and coaches look better.


UK is 6, unc cheater u a half dozen . The only difference is I pull for UK when they play unc cheater u. That's not really saying a lot. OFC
 

skysdad

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Also right now Coach K has 261 more wins than hof coach roy williams. If Coach K retired today it would take hof coach roy williams ten years at an average of 26.1 wins a year to tie him. OFC
 
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dukedevilz

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I think the most likely scenario would be if the scheduled was somehow lengthened. When John Wooden was winning championships, his teams were were only playing 30 games in a season. Nowadays, title teams are playing 40 games. Wouldn't be terribly surprising to see more games on the schedule in the next 10-20 years. More games equals more money.
 

Quavarius

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I think the most likely scenario would be if the scheduled was somehow lengthened. When John Wooden was winning championships, his teams were were only playing 30 games in a season. Nowadays, title teams are playing 40 games. Wouldn't be terribly surprising to see more games on the schedule in the next 10-20 years. More games equals more money.

I don’t know. I know the 1986 Duke team played 40 games (finished season 37-3). I don’t know when 40 games became the max, but that was 33 years ago and teams still don’t play more than 40 a year. I doubt it changes. In fact it may reduce. Kids are already playing lots of games BEFORE college. With players becoming brands, adding meaningless games is prolly not the right thing to do. That’s why the NBA players are looking at playing less games in a season, which would make the regular season more entertaining.
 

timo0402

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I don’t know. I know the 1986 Duke team played 40 games (finished season 37-3). I don’t know when 40 games became the max, but that was 33 years ago and teams still don’t play more than 40 a year. I doubt it changes. In fact it may reduce. Kids are already playing lots of games BEFORE college. With players becoming brands, adding meaningless games is prolly not the right thing to do. That’s why the NBA players are looking at playing less games in a season, which would make the regular season more entertaining.
Nba players are looking to play less, until they realize their pay will also be significantly less. Don’t see it happening.
 

Liftee

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The NBA ought to reduce their schedule to no more than 60 games and maybe their players wouldn't be too exhausted by travel to play hard more than maybe 6 minutes a game. I don't blame them, but it's the truth IMO.

I could see college relaxing the rule about preseason games and perhaps add a TV game or 2 out of conference during the season to make ESPN happy. right now only the top teams that play deep into pre and post season tournaments are playing close to 40 games. Mediocre teams are playing maybe 35.
 

HoneyMoon155

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You must be a Kentucky fan because Kentucky anc UNC are always trying to use smaller sample sizes to make their team and coaches look better.
Dang dude what’s your problem? I was nothing but nice in my post. 10 years isn’t really that small of a sample size, it is a fact that since he’s been at Kentucky his win average is 30.5
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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Dang dude what’s your problem? I was nothing but nice in my post. 10 years isn’t really that small of a sample size, it is a fact that since he’s been at Kentucky his win average is 30.5
It’s a small sample size when it’s basically only about a third of his head coaching career. When I gave his and Coach K’s wins per season averages in one of my earlier posts, it was for their ENTIRE careers NOT just a portion of their careers that makes their averages look better..
 
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timo0402

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It’s a small sample size when it’s basically only about a third of his head coaching career. When I gave his and Coach K’s wins per season averages in one of my earlier posts, it was for their ENTIRE careers NOT just a portion of their careers that makes their averages look better..
True but he’s not wrong. Cal won’t coach anywhere other than Kentucky for the rest of his time in college so it’s a fair point. You could also do the same for K by taking just his Duke totals or using the totals of his last ten, no clue what either of those are.
 

DiehardDukeFan4Life

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True but he’s not wrong. Cal won’t coach anywhere other than Kentucky for the rest of his time in college so it’s a fair point. You could also do the same for K by taking just his Duke totals or using the totals of his last ten, no clue what either of those are.
If I just use Coach K’a career at Duke then his average wins per season would be 31 wins per season but going by Calipari’s wins per season average just while he’s been at Kentucky doesn’t really give an accurate idea of how many career wins he’ll have or if he’ll pass Coach K because you have to look at his overall stats to more accurately estimate what his total career wins could end up at. Also if I went to choose a random 10 year period in Coach K’s career, for example from the 1984-85 season through the 1993-94 season Coach K averages 28.7 wins per season which is slightly above his career wins per season average. If Calipari had been coaching at Kentucky for most of his career then I could understand using his Wisniski per season average at Kentucky but Kentucky only accounts for about 37% of the total number of seasons that he’s been a head coach, whereas Coach K’s time at Duke accounts for about 87% of the total number of seasons that he’s been a head acoach.
 
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timo0402

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If I just use Coach K’a career at Duke then his average wins per season would be 31 wins per season but going by Calipari’s wins per season average just while he’s been at Kentucky doesn’t really give an accurate idea of how many career wins he’ll have or if he’ll pass Coach K because you have to look at his overall stats to more accurately estimate what his total career wins could end up at. Also if I went to choose a random 10 year period in Coach K’s career, for example from the 1984-85 season through the 1993-94 season Coach K averages 28.7 wins per season which is slightly above his career wins per season average. If Calipari had been coaching at Kentucky for most of his career then I could understand using his Wisniski per season average at Kentucky but Kentucky only accounts for about 37% of the total number of seasons that he’s been a head coach, whereas Coach K’s time at Duke accounts for about 87% of the total number of seasons that he’s been a head acoach.
I see what your saying and honestly i don’t really care one way or another but i think it’s fair to use Cals record at UK because he won’t be anywhere else. It’s an inane argument either way and you’re splitting hairs as a UK fan asking for those extra 2 wins, i was just saying it’s technically a fair point he made
 
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Don’t really get why I’m being attacked? I wasn’t disrespectful or anything. You all wonder why fans of other schools are a**holes to you
If you think “how cute” is an attack, then you and I either have very different definitions of the word “attack” or you’re someone that talks about being triggered or micro aggressions. Either way, loosen up.