No coach will ever win as many games as Coach K
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The only thing I can see that might let someone catch K is if schools start playing more games per year. Even then, it looks almost impossible.
I’m saying a UK fan is splitting hairs by arguing that Cal should get the benefit of his record only at UK vs overall bc the difference over time is not that much.
Anything that can make them feel better about taking a backseat to Duke and coach K
There’s basically 2 main factors that will determine if any other coaches will have a chance of passing Coach K in career wins.
1) How many more seasons Coach K coaches
2) If the coaches that have a chance to possibly pass him in career wins coach long enough
Here’s a scenario that I used in an earlier post. If Coach K were to coach until he’s 75 which would be after the 2021-22 season and maintain his 28 wins per season average he would end up with around 1216 career wins. If Calipari were to maintain his average of 31 wins per season then he would have to coach for 17 more seasons (14 seasons after Coach K retires)).
1) How many more seasons Coach K coaches
2) If the coaches that have a chance to possibly pass him in career wins coach long enough
Here’s a scenario that I used in an earlier post. If Coach K were to coach until he’s 75 which would be after the 2021-22 season and maintain his 28 wins per season average he would end up with around 1216 career wins. If Calipari were to maintain his average of 31 wins per season then he would have to coach for 17 more seasons (14 seasons after Coach K retires)).
He’s 60, he’ll be 61 on February 10th, 3 days before Coach K turns 73.
Bingo, i did the math earlier on how many years longer he would have to coach. It would essentially put him at 78-79 years old to catch K. personally i can’t see Cal coaching that long unless he does a Bobby Knight and goes to a program to ride out his career like Knight did at TT.
Yeah those are the same numbers that i came up with and I agree with you, I don’t see Calipari coaching that long either. Plus I was conservative with how many more years Coach K will coach because it could possibly coach longer than 3 years.
Facts are facts guys. If it hadn't been for the crooked referees both dean smith and hof coach roy williams would have more wins right now. Just count em up. OFC
El Deano used to tell longtime ACC ref Lenny Wirtz to jump. Lenny replied "how high coach??" OFC
I had not thought about Wirtz in a long time. Yes dean owned him. OFC
Exactly my point, I was just trying to say that for the rest of his career he would more than likely average closer to the 30 at Kentucky than 26. Wasn’t really trying to make his stats look better, just making conversation. I don’t think he will catch Coach K anyway.
https://duke.forums.rivals.com/threads/brandon-boston.10858930/#post-11374066
You came here to gloat after Boston committed to KY. You’re still allowed to post here, as you should. If a Duke fan did that on RR after a player picked Duke over KY, they and their entire family would be banned from RR. Might want to keep that in mind next time you criticize Duke fans on this board. Otherwise, apology accepted.
Didn't have the time to read that many posts, but here are my 2 cents.
I think someone will break it, unless K coaches til he's 80...or very close.
More likely it will come from someone coaching women's basketball.
Geno, and Tara VanDerveer are both only 60 or 70 games behind K, and
are in their mid 60's.
If Pat Summitt had stayed healthy (and yes I understand that's a huge part of it),
she would have about 1300 wins by now, and still in her 60's.
Also, even though I don't expect extra games being added to regular season
schedules, I do think that eventually (unfortunately) that the NCAA will expand
the tourney to 128 teams and that will add the opportunity to win a few more games
in the postseason.
And if we go outside of Division 1, Mark Campbell, head coach of the women's basketball team of Union University (NAIA) has 613 wins (94 losses) in only
20 seasons. And he's only forty something!
In my mind Coach K is the best, but with women's basketball not being nearly as
competitive as men's, he might get passed in total wins. But he'll still be the GOAT.
OFC
I think someone will break it, unless K coaches til he's 80...or very close.
More likely it will come from someone coaching women's basketball.
Geno, and Tara VanDerveer are both only 60 or 70 games behind K, and
are in their mid 60's.
If Pat Summitt had stayed healthy (and yes I understand that's a huge part of it),
she would have about 1300 wins by now, and still in her 60's.
Also, even though I don't expect extra games being added to regular season
schedules, I do think that eventually (unfortunately) that the NCAA will expand
the tourney to 128 teams and that will add the opportunity to win a few more games
in the postseason.
And if we go outside of Division 1, Mark Campbell, head coach of the women's basketball team of Union University (NAIA) has 613 wins (94 losses) in only
20 seasons. And he's only forty something!
In my mind Coach K is the best, but with women's basketball not being nearly as
competitive as men's, he might get passed in total wins. But he'll still be the GOAT.
OFC
I didn’t make it specific, but I was assuming everyone would assume I was talking Men’s college basketball coach breaking K’s recrord! I certainly expect several women’s coaches to break his record.
I’ll update my OP. Sorry for the confusion
You didn't need to change the thread, Q, I was fairly certain you meant men's college basketball.
I still think there is a decent possibility that a men's division coach surpasses K (in total wins). I say that because he's not light years ahead of a few coaches now. Boeheim would be pretty close if he hadn't had a 100 wins taken away from his total, and Ol' Roy has accumulated a tremendous amount of wins in a pretty short amount of time. So just
off present stats it seems doable under the right circumstances (a lot of things have to
go right).
And this is the big one for me, advancements in health and technology. Coach K is a prime example of it. Without the improvement in hip and knee replacements (that have become pretty much commonplace) he probably would have succumbed to chronic pain awhile back (as per his remarks over the years).
I'm not sure there is going to be some radical change in human life expectancy, but there are more and more advancements that will help a person have a better quality of life for a longer span of their lifetime.
But you may be right, Q. Either way I probably won't be around to hear about it (unless there is some really incredible health advances ) .
OFC
You didn't need to change the thread, Q, I was fairly certain you meant men's college basketball.
I still think there is a decent possibility that a men's division coach surpasses K (in total wins). I say that because he's not light years ahead of a few coaches now. Boeheim would be pretty close if he hadn't had a 100 wins taken away from his total, and Ol' Roy has accumulated a tremendous amount of wins in a pretty short amount of time. So just
off present stats it seems doable under the right circumstances (a lot of things have to
go right).
And this is the big one for me, advancements in health and technology. Coach K is a prime example of it. Without the improvement in hip and knee replacements (that have become pretty much commonplace) he probably would have succumbed to chronic pain awhile back (as per his remarks over the years).
I'm not sure there is going to be some radical change in human life expectancy, but there are more and more advancements that will help a person have a better quality of life for a longer span of their lifetime.
But you may be right, Q. Either way I probably won't be around to hear about it (unless there is some really incredible health advances ) .
OFC
Yes if not stripped of the 100 wins, Boeheim would be close, but since he’s not and he’s older than K and his win totals have decreased recently (20, 23, 19, 19, 18 are his win totals the last 5 seasons) I wouldn’t consider him. Yes, Roy has won at a high % but he’s had some health issues as well and is only 3 years younger than K. Roy is 261 wins behind K—now—and if K retired today, Roy would have to average 25 wins for the next 10 years to tie K’s record.
IMO the only one who would have been toe to toe with K would have been Pitino had he not gone to the NBA.
The great variable with K is we don’t know when he’ll be done. With his grandson coming on board, we can say maybe he sticks around for 4 more years. If he averages 25 wins a season, that’s 100 more wins to add to his total (1,232).
I do agree, advancement in technology will help and also, with the OAD rule going away, it will be less stressful and he won’t have to reload every year.
Wasn’t really gloating, I really just thought it was funny he was so sure Boston was going to Duke. Loosen up man