What do you think about the response by the Governor of Louisiana?
No Kneeling for you! With a poll.
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Governor is an idiot. This has been their routine for several seasons (not being on the court for the anthem) and they even do it when at home! Good grief. If THAT is what our political leaders are worried with no wonder we are in such a sorry *** shape.
Throw the bastards out.
Throw the bastards out.
I think the government has bigger issues to focus on.
Forced nationalistic displays is about the worst thing I can imagine a government doing that doesn't explicitly involve removal of life or liberty.
This. I stand for the anthem and respect the flag. Forcing other people to do it is pretty tyrannical in a free country whether you like their actions or or not.
I don’t particularly like the content on most TV channels these days. Guess what I do? Mind my own damn business and not watch.
I don’t like it at all. You don’t even have to agree with the message of the protestors to be concerned about the government threatening their livelihood if they refuse to partake in a mandatory public display of patriotism at appointed times. That’s the exact opposite of freedom, and could lead to even scarier places if the governor is actually allowed to enforce it.
National anthem and pledge before school/games was always weird. I say leave that for veteran’s ceremonies etc. And I say that as a guy who’s grand-dad. Won a purple heart and bronze medal at the bulge, fighting the nazis.
Not like this country has much to be proud about militarily since WW2 anyway. Korea, Iraq, and Vietnam/Afghanistan were all massive blots on our country.
Not like this country has much to be proud about militarily since WW2 anyway. Korea, Iraq, and Vietnam/Afghanistan were all massive blots on our country.
The even stupider part is they weren’t protesting anything. It’s just part of their routine. Kim Mullkey has presented as pretty conservative.
I reiterate, Gubna is an ijit.
It's absolutely weird. I never liked the undertones of it even as a kid, I was the smartass who let them send me to in school detention for refusing to pledge allegiance. It's weird indoctrination that attempts to get people to think their government is infallible.
Why does a sporting event specifically need a display of national pride? I get it in international events where you're representing your country but wooo we're about to race some cars in a circle or kick an oblong ball down a field, bit weird.
I will always stand out of respect for the soldiers who were called to duty in the failed conflicts you mentioned. The failures were not due to the lack of sacrifice of these young folks. If someone chooses to piss on the honor of these folks, they have the right to do so. I don’t like it, but that’s part of what this is about.
The same people that want you to kneel spit and burn the flag in this country are the same people that condone the government take over of the environment and punish you for not wanting to comply damn we see through the hour glass darkly don't we
Honestly, I’d be happy if we just did away with the national anthem before every sporting event ritual. There’s no reason we need to do it. Other countries think it’s weird how much we do it. And nowadays it just seems to cause more controversy/problems than any beneficial purpose it might serve.
We can still be patriotic USA-loving Americans without constantly being forced to stand for that tedious song.
We can still be patriotic USA-loving Americans without constantly being forced to stand for that tedious song.
Exactly. You can still support and respect our military and be generally patriotic, without the weird near-forced displays.
I was at Rupp and just got to my seat one time right before the anthem and was scrambling to get to my spot and set some things down so I did and quickly stood for the anthem. One of the ushers pointed out that I didn't remove my hat and and I didn't hear him cuz I'm damn near deaf. He then grabbed my shoulder and said he'd have me removed if I didn't take the hat off. That's some crazy **** if you ask me.
Half the world would line us up and shoot us all while the other half would buy a ticket to watch
My Country ,right or wrong, but my Country
Hell why don't we go anarchy open borders no law squatters on your land drugs everywhere oh wait we are in that reality
Lmfao, bit of a stretch for simply not wanting to participate in a nationalistic display--for whatever reason. Not surprising someone so vehemently opposed to someone expressing their rights would turn it into something it's not though.
This isn't really the board for such a topic, but I also think it's important to acknowledge that the national anthem isn't just honoring the military. It's the anthem for the entire country. It honors all of our people, our land, the American spirit and our ingenuity. I've never liked how people try to claim it all for the military or our service members.
Obviously their sacrifice should be honored, but to me that song is honoring the way you feel when you look out over a natural wonder like Yosemite or honoring school teachers who teach the next generation or nurses who care for us when sick just as much as it is the service member.
America is not America without all of us.
I don't disagree with that, but the dividing line for the vast majority of folks that have a problem with it is specifically it's disrespectful to current, former, and fallen military members. Which is why the statement was pointed there in particular.
If it were up to me I just wouldn't do it at non international sporting events, but for whatever reason it's baked in at this point, so with that said, stand and honor if you want, or don't if you don't. People shouldn't be so worried about what other people choose to do.
Here's a simple solution. Im going to stand....
Everyone else worry about ya mother effing self. If you want to stand then get the eff up and stand. If someone else doesn't, so what, mind your own damn business. It's really not that effing complicated.
Everyone else worry about ya mother effing self. If you want to stand then get the eff up and stand. If someone else doesn't, so what, mind your own damn business. It's really not that effing complicated.
It’s a slick tactic to turn people into obedient sheep. The government is seen as by many today as their parents. It’s sad really.
I agree, the younger generations do not have the respect for our country that we do. They took prayers out of schools, they tear down statues that show history be it good or bad it is still history. Maybe when they are told what job they will do for life, what god they must pray to and what leader they have to bow down to it will hit home. We are the only country on earth that has true freedom, that in itself is not enough for this generation.
It’s a joke they were even sent in. 19 year old boys slaughtered or turned into war criminals due to policing actions. Our government has been a joke since Eisenhower and Kennedy left office.
You fell for the government brainwashing hard.
No sir, you fell for the government of obama and biden, I did not make the names capitals. They both are lower than whale chit in my mind. They put this country on the socialists track and this generation is eating it up.
You're a product of the woke generation and you want government to force this **** ideology on us talking about being brainwashed you're knee deep in it
You can always tell it's an election year when a politician gets pretend offended and tweet rants, making a big issue out of something that's not really an issue. And threatening college athletes? Very adult. "I disagree with you therefore you must be punished!" Something tells me this politician just wants to do some national interviews and have his *** kissed by his base.
Yeah, I’m calling BS on that.
Some of you all are acting like participating in the national anthem is equivalent to participating in a decathlon. Stand up, show respect, and be an adult for two minutes. It’s not that big of a deal. While it is undoubtedly in decline, we live in a tremendous country with a unique distinction of rights enshrined to the people.
I’m as anti-government as 9/10 people but country =/= government. Love our country, hate our government. It’s a reflection of where we are as a country that this is even a topic. What is meant to unite has become a political topic.
Having said that, I don’t support compulsory participation. I think teams and players that kneel are disappointing and should not be supported but it’s their right.
The anthem is for bootickers who are into virtue signaling. LOL about being for the troops. If y’all were so for the troops not a single one would be homeless, they would have the best healthcare in the world, and none would be on food stamps. People care about looking patriotic, not actually being patriotic. When they’re watching a game at home they don’t stand and remove their hats, they do it in public when they’re seen.
Lol, now i’m woke? I think both sides of the political spectrum are cancer. Modern democrats and modern republicans are both looney tunes. MAGA supports russia, democrats have went so far left even lenin is side-eyeing from his tomb in the soviet museums.
You’re so polarized by manufactured us vs them (good guys bs bad guys). That you automatically think anyone not lockstep with your views is on the other side. I’m a libertarian who leans right. And not standing for the anthem or pledge is freedom. Soldiers died for your right to do that. Just like the supreme court ruled that burning the US flag is freedom of expression.
You're a great candidate and you don't even know the roots of the democratic party and republican party who formed them and why they were formed and then lecturing me about it
This is nothing but a baseless line of propagandist bunk. Plenty of other countries enjoy just as much (and some even more) in the way of freedom as us.
Fwiw, the most credible studies that have been done on this issue no longer even rank us in the top 10. And that includes those published by decidedly conservative American institutions like the Cato Institute:
Both of those parties have been clowns since their inception. The GOP formed as a big-government party. The democrats are the same. George Wallace called both of these two parties the same thing, which they are.
In 1896, conservative Democrats bolted the part and formed a splinter party known as the National Democratic Party, or NDP.
They produced a “campaign handbook” outlining their political principles, and they focused on real issues and constitutional restraint.
They also nominated a truly “national” ticket for the time by selecting John Palmer for President and Simon Buckner for Vice-President. Palmer was a Union veteran, Buckner a Confederate.
Both men blasted the two major parties.
First and foremost, that governor is a tyrant. And I’m not kidding. Have to have freedom of speech. As Elon Musk told Don Lemon, “freedom of speech is when someone you don’t like says something you don’t like.” It was something along those lines. And I believe that extends to how you express yourself as well and you can’t force people to respect the flag.
In fact, that’s why I have so much respect for the flag and appreciate what it stands for. I want to stand and put my hand over my heart for it. But the idea that I had the freedom to protest my government by peacefully not doing that is part of why I feel that way.
So while I don’t really agree with the causes or people that have been kneeling, I have never once questioned their right to do it.
Freedom is a two way street and both sides need to understand that.
In fact, that’s why I have so much respect for the flag and appreciate what it stands for. I want to stand and put my hand over my heart for it. But the idea that I had the freedom to protest my government by peacefully not doing that is part of why I feel that way.
So while I don’t really agree with the causes or people that have been kneeling, I have never once questioned their right to do it.
Freedom is a two way street and both sides need to understand that.
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This right here. People wanna call you woke or some Us vs Them BS. I support their right to kneel or whatever. Does not mean I support the reasons they want to do it.
Respect is earned. The internet has been the great equalizer for the younger generations and has opened their eyes quite a bit. Complain all you want about Millennials being soft or entitled or whatever you want, but we're the first generation that will end up poorer and with a lower standard of living than our parents.
America has some great aspects. It also has some really awful aspects that are easily discovered in this day and age. Pointing out your country's flaws is not being disrespectful or unpatriotic. I'd argue it's the exact opposite.