No more Non- Conference Games this year

Mpm277

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I mean, we technically only had 1 nonconference game left, right?
 

K-oach Q

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Coach is protecting his team...and Win/Loss record.
He’s not protecting his win loss record....these are teams we will have beaten even though we are not very good it seems.

My understanding is this lets the players go home and see their families they haven’t seen since August. Then they will come back and have enough days to follow testing protocols so we can play a conference schedule.

While I don’t like that we are cancelling....this is all about letting players see their families. It’s not like we are cancelling against ACC foes or Mich St or Illinois.....these are nobodies relatively speaking.

Under the current protocols and testing guidelines players can’t ever leave....and it’s been like this since August.
 

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Coach K is giving up some easy wins. He's doing it because he cares about his players. That's all there is to it. Anyone who disagrees...well you are entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong.
We were one of the first teams last year to withdraw from the tournament along with Kansas, so I don’t think it’s about a win/loss record either.
 

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While I agree given that three of them have already cancelled due to covid. It seems coaches are firing back at coach K and wondering if his comments would have been made had he not just lost Two non conference games.

I get it. Coaches will take shots too but don’t you still have to travel in conference games? Didn’t three ACC schools just cancel games because they tested positive? Wasn’t it K that said the NCAA could not afford to miss another tourney?

He is looking out for the kids which is great, however the timing of this is just weird
 
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BOOGIEMAN1914

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While I agree given that three of them have already cancelled due to covid. It seems coaches are firing back at coach K and wondering if his comments would have been made had he not just lost Two non conference games.

I get it. Coaches will take shots too but don’t you still have to travel in conference games? Didn’t three ACC schools just cancel games because they tested positive? Wasn’t it K that said the NCAA could not afford to miss another tourney?

He is looking out for the kids which is great, however the timing of this is just weird
A possible NCAA tourney would be a bubble scenario....right?
 
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timo0402

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But can easily pass it to someone else that doesn't have that good of a chance..
Right so why are they sending them home to their families? That literally goes against the science. This whole thing doesn’t make sense other than i get cancelling the one Remaining non conference game since 3 of the 4 have cancelled on us and won’t mean much at this point.
 
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While I agree given that three of them have already cancelled due to covid. It seems coaches are firing back at coach K and wondering if his comments would have been made had he not just lost Two non conference games.

I get it. Coaches will take shots too but don’t you still have to travel in conference games? Didn’t three ACC schools just cancel games because they tested positive? Wasn’t it K that said the NCAA could not afford to miss another tourney?

He is looking out for the kids which is great, however the timing of this is just weird

Who knows if he would have even made the comments if he wasn't asked by a reporter his thoughts on Jeff Capel saying it doesn't feel right. He responded with I don't think it feels right to anyone. And even commented on how they would spin it which they
 

sheyduke

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A possible NCAA tourney would be a bubble scenario....right?
Yes and I guess K saw he already played the three out of conference games and could get ten out of conference play to qualify for the tourney. At least 13 games needed to qualify with three being out of conference
 

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Who knows if he would have even made the comments if he wasn't asked by a reporter his thoughts on Jeff Capel saying it doesn't feel right. He responded with I don't think it feels right to anyone. And even commented on how they would spin it which they

I saw his comments on that but the question coaches are asking is the way the team is playing. Being that the two wins were to in superior teams and were close and the two losses were at home and by ten or more.

I was all for a conference only season let the top five conferences champions play it out for the top one seeds and the fifth getting the overall top number two seed
 

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Right so why are they sending them home to their families? That literally goes against the science. This whole thing doesn’t make sense other than i get cancelling the one Remaining non conference game since 3 of the 4 have cancelled on us and won’t mean much at this point.
It is sometimes. hard to remember that these guys are just kids. I have to imagine that trying to go to college and play basketball during a pandemic is taking its toll on them in ways we can't appreciate. I wonder if that is part of what is going on with Wendell. I get the health concerns but some of these kids might really need to get home and given how well Duke has done at keeping the virus at bay, it might be worth it.
 

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Your sympathy is absolutely amazing. They may not be at risk of death but they could get very sick and suffer certain long term consequences. And then there is the issue of who they. might give it to.

Sympathy? What’s wrong, does clinical truth hurt? And stop with the “long term consequences”. I bet you never thought twice about influenza or pneumonia long term effects.
 

Fourteen44

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But can easily pass it to someone else that doesn't have that good of a chance..

Yea my bad, the overall risk of dying is so high (sarcasm).

Look, it sucks to lose one person but we should be protecting the vulnerable, not locking everything down and destroying lives and businesses all because we went backwards.

Arguing this is pointless though - the season will get cut short because there’s fear to be stoked and money to be made on the vaccine. Keep people scared so they get vaccinated and units are sold.
 
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Who knows if he would have even made the comments if he wasn't asked by a reporter his thoughts on Jeff Capel saying it doesn't feel right. He responded with I don't think it feels right to anyone. And even commented on how they would spin it which they

I think most disagree with your coach.
 

sheyduke

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It is sometimes. hard to remember that these guys are just kids. I have to imagine that trying to go to college and play basketball during a pandemic is taking its toll on them in ways we can't appreciate. I wonder if that is part of what is going on with Wendell. I get the health concerns but some of these kids might really need to get home and given how well Duke has done at keeping the virus at bay, it might be worth it.
Moore is from Charlotte it’s two hours from Durham I think he can drive home if he wanted to.

Now had you said Steward who is from Chi town I would have agreed.

These kids were aware of covid before traveling to Durham and one would have to think they were aware of protocols in place just saying .
 

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Yea my bad, the overall risk of dying is so high (sarcasm).

Look, it sucks to lose one person but we should be protecting the vulnerable, not locking everything down and destroying lives and businesses all because we went backwards.

Arguing this is pointless though - the season will get cut short because there’s fear to be stoked and money to be made on the vaccine. Keep people scared so they get vaccinated and units are sold.
I have a pregnant wife to worry about. There’s too many idiots out there who don’t care if they make others sick. Honestly, I could care less about somone’s business shutting down. Keeping my family safe is my business
 

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Limit the risk you can. These are just basketball games. That’s coach Oats sure is a moron though
 

durhamgolfer

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Moore is from Charlotte it’s two hours from Durham I think he can drive home if he wanted to.

Now had you said Steward who is from Chi town I would have agreed.

These kids were aware of covid before traveling to Durham and one would have to think they were aware of protocols in place just saying .
If they weren't allowed to leave campus, what difference would it make how close Moore's parents are? The kids could have been told many times over what was in store for them. But experiencing it is a whole different thing.
 

Duke1783

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Limit the risk you can. These are just basketball games. That’s coach Oats sure is a moron though
I totally agree..And yes, Oats is just looking for headlines. He’ll be unemployed in 2 years
 

timo0402

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It is sometimes. hard to remember that these guys are just kids. I have to imagine that trying to go to college and play basketball during a pandemic is taking its toll on them in ways we can't appreciate. I wonder if that is part of what is going on with Wendell. I get the health concerns but some of these kids might really need to get home and given how well Duke has done at keeping the virus at bay, it might be worth it.
Yes, but that’s not what i was responding to in my post.
 

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I'm going to totally look at this from a basketball perspective. The team lost two games and had two cancelled. The team has very little fluidity and identity when playing. If you look at their games, they are trying to figure it out. However, they read the papers, internet, blogs, social media, etc...,some of them may be taking this very personal.

Am I good enough? Where is my motivation? No fans? What's the rotation? Why is my pt so low? Did I pick the right school? Why didn't I transfer?

All real thoughts right now. Yes, they probably need a break. The coaches need a break.

COVID is COVID. It speaks for itself. Hopefully, the team is isolated again for 14 days and no one has any serious health challenges.
 

timo0402

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They’ve had 3 out of 4 non conference games cancel between 18-48hours before playing. Cancelling another one so the kids can go home for a few days doesn’t necessarily bother me. I’m sure they’re aggregated preparing for each game and having it cancelled at no fault of their own. If they don’t play Wednesday at ND, well then there’s more to it. We will see.
 
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jamsession3

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By cancelling far and away the most winable games left on the schedule? I don't know if I get your logic.

We see those games as easy wins. We have no idea the mental state of the team. Prep those young men for ACC play. A lost or win to Notre Dame digest a lot easier than a loss to Elon or Charleston Southern.