No surprise..DA drops felony charges against Beard

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many battered women do this on a consistent basis..somtimes when the Police are in court, it looks like they just showed up out of nowhere for no reason..like no one called 911..just magically appeared.
 

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many battered women do this on a consistent basis..somtimes when the Police are in court, it looks like they just showed up out of nowhere for no reason..like no one called 911..just magically appeared.
So, does he get his job and his reputation back?
 

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So you want to hire a wife beater.
Do you have evidence to support that? The guy put a basketball backwater program on the brink of a national title and turned the Notre Dame hoops of the south into an instant contender. Wherever he goes next will undoubtedly win big and the whole he said-she said with his wife will be forgotten after the first couple of games.
 

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So, does he get his job and his reputation back?
No. It's entirely ruined. The mere suggestion that he did anything to harm a woman (you can't even speak to them bluntly in the workplace - esp not like how you'd speak to another man) is career ruination, especially when that career is in the public eye.
 

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Do you have evidence to support that? The guy put a basketball backwater program on the brink of a national title and turned the Notre Dame hoops of the south into an instant contender. Wherever he goes next will undoubtedly win big and the whole he said-she said with his wife will be forgotten after the first couple of games.
Battery is hard to prove because the victim is easily scared off on testimony. I guess the lady beat the **** out of herself so they dropped charges.

Charges are usually dropped because of...
Lack of corroborating evidence of violence at the scene
No third party to corroborate allegations of violence or battery
Victim’s reluctance or refusal to testify against the defendant

Look it up at any states prosecutor.

There is no guarantee with his tarnished name that he finds a job at upper levels. Do we really know if there wasn't another matter that Texas fired him over? We will never find out.

Rick Pitino was exonerated by IARP November 3, 2022. Will he move up again? Right now he is still at Iona. He is 70 and will be 71 this September. Not likely anyone hires a coach that old. But you never know.

Perhaps you should become an AD someplace and hire Pitino and Beard to make a name for yourself.
 

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Battery is hard to prove because the victim is easily scared off on testimony. I guess the lady beat the **** out of herself so they dropped charges.

Charges are usually dropped because of...
Lack of corroborating evidence of violence at the scene
No third party to corroborate allegations of violence or battery
Victim’s reluctance or refusal to testify against the defendant

Look it up at any states prosecutor.

There is no guarantee with his tarnished name that he finds a job at upper levels. Do we really know if there wasn't another matter that Texas fired him over? We will never find out.

Rick Pitino was exonerated by IARP November 3, 2022. Will he move up again? Right now he is still at Iona. He is 70 and will be 71 this September. Not likely anyone hires a coach that old. But you never know.

Perhaps you should become an AD someplace and hire Pitino and Beard to make a name for yourself.

Pitino would likely win even at his age if he returned to a major conference, but you’re looking at a 1-2 year jolt and not a long term solution. Whoever hires Beard during this period of turmoil for him will likely have a national championship caliber program for the next 20 years as the loyalty will be reciprocated IMO.

Could this be the tip of the iceberg and maybe he does something worse down the line? Sure, and if it is, build in a clause that allows him to be fired without buyout. But it could also be a couple at a low point that went public and exacerbated a nothing burger. Tired of watching all of the scumbag coaches win big for other programs, WVU and it’s moral high ground is what leads to hires like Brown. Our admission standards scream SEC, but we run our AD like a Catholic school.
 

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Pitino would likely win even at his age if he returned to a major conference, but you’re looking at a 1-2 year jolt and not a long term solution. Whoever hires Beard during this period of turmoil for him will likely have a national championship caliber program for the next 20 years as the loyalty will be reciprocated IMO.

I wouldn't bet on that.
 

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Battery is hard to prove because the victim is easily scared off on testimony. I guess the lady beat the **** out of herself so they dropped charges.

Charges are usually dropped because of...
Lack of corroborating evidence of violence at the scene
No third party to corroborate allegations of violence or battery
Victim’s reluctance or refusal to testify against the defendant

Look it up at any states prosecutor.

There is no guarantee with his tarnished name that he finds a job at upper levels. Do we really know if there wasn't another matter that Texas fired him over? We will never find out.

Rick Pitino was exonerated by IARP November 3, 2022. Will he move up again? Right now he is still at Iona. He is 70 and will be 71 this September. Not likely anyone hires a coach that old. But you never know.

Perhaps you should become an AD someplace and hire Pitino and Beard to make a name for yourself.
yeah..it will never happen again..I saw a woman whose husband had poured some type of weed killer on her head and all of her hair fell out..she came to court wearing a wig and said it never happened..ok
 

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Yet, we are ok with hiring a guy who had a DUI be the basketball coach. What kind of messaging does that send? Charges dropped. Beard will get hired and win games.
 

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yeah..it will never happen again..I saw a woman whose husband had poured some type of weed killer on her head and all of her hair fell out..she came to court wearing a wig and said it never happened..ok
It will be that way until they die or finally take stand.
 

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If there were any real evidence, it wouldnt have been thrown out of court. Sounds like another attempt at extortion and abuse of the "me too" mentality.
 

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If there were any real evidence, it wouldnt have been thrown out of court. Sounds like another attempt at extortion and abuse of the "me too" mentality.
You would be wrong. The evidence left when the women was scared to testify or was paid off. Sounds like another scared victim to me.
 

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You would be wrong. The evidence left when the women was scared to testify or was paid off. Sounds like another scared victim to me.
I'll give you the paid off part, because that's all she wanted when she made up her story. If she was scared she wouldnt have done any of this in the first place. Her biggest fear in this was getting caught.
 

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I'll give you the paid off part, because that's all she wanted when she made up her story. If she was scared she wouldnt have done any of this in the first place. Her biggest fear in this was getting caught.
You're the kind that always blames the woman for getting their *** kicked. You have no idea if this was about money or not.
 

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You're the kind that always blames the woman for getting their *** kicked. You have no idea if this was about money or not.
It wasnt even worthy of a day in court. In the days of woke and me too movement, it has to be pretty bad to get thrown out of court. Why do you think the case got thrown out of court again? This isnt Lifetime its real life.
 

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It wasnt even worthy of a day in court. In the days of woke and me too movement, it has to be pretty bad to get thrown out of court. Why do you think the case got thrown out of court again? This isnt Lifetime its real life.
Enjoy beating your women. They won't testify against you.
 

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Enjoy beating your women. They won't testify against you.
So because I believe the actual truth, and same thing the court believes about this case, I'm a woman beater? That is liberal logic at its finest. Pathetic, but I'm glad you think that. The world needs more ***** liberal mangirls like you an buck about as much as it needs more asteroids to smash it....
 

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Beard never denied that it happened ,just stated that he wasn't the primary aggressor..she didn't bite herself on the neck..he's 6'5" 250 she's 5'5" 115
 
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So because I believe the actual truth, and same thing the court believes about this case, I'm a woman beater? That is liberal logic at its finest. Pathetic, but I'm glad you think that. The world needs more ***** liberal mangirls like you an buck about as much as it needs more asteroids to smash it....
Just because court drops the case doesn't mean they think he's innocent. The liberal is you on your knees *****. Don't beat your wife / girlfriend today.
 
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So you want to hire a wife beater.

Nah I thinks he wants someone to choke John Higgins before he can blow the whistle for a T on Huggins! No breathe, no whistle blowing, right? Why would ANY moral, intelligent person want WVU to have a coach who beats women almost senseless? That tells you more about a person who endorses a woman-beater than the person they are endorsing to come to WVU and beat up the cheerleaders!

As for Higgins he laughs all the way to the bank at fans who get angry at him and call him names. At $3,000 a game he'll make $285,000 this season. That's about $100 a boo!
 
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So because I believe the actual truth, and same thing the court believes about this case, I'm a woman beater? That is liberal logic at its finest. Pathetic, but I'm glad you think that. The world needs more ***** liberal mangirls like you an buck about as much as it needs more asteroids to smash it....

No one knows the truth. Lack of charges may be because the victim refuses to follow through. Happens all the time when a known abuser commits abuse, but the only person that can press the charges is the victim who won't. No way to prosecute such a case even though you know someone is guilty. Ray Rice's girlfriend tried to soft pedal what happened to her before the video came out. And the only reason he wasn't criminally prosecuted was because she did not press charges. Otherwise he would likely have been convicted criminally. Instead he was only convicted in the court of public opinion.

That being said, I don't buy this never hit a woman chivalry garbage either. Sure there is no need for physical retaliation if a woman hits you once and stops. Nor is there a need for physical retaliation to the same scale you would against a man. However if a woman is constantly going in as hard as she can and won't either let the man walk away or leave him alone in event the altercation is in the man's home, then there is no faulting the man for getting physical back. Screw this soft bigotry of low expectations acting like a women can't be expected to control themselves like an adult while the man is held to, not a modified or slightly different standard, but exact opposite standard.
 
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No one knows the truth. Lack of charges may be because the victim refuses to follow through. Happens all the time when a known abuser commits abuse, but the only person that can press the charges is the victim who won't. No way to prosecute such a case even though you know someone is guilty. Ray Rice's girlfriend tried to soft pedal what happened to her before the video came out. And the only reason he wasn't criminally prosecuted was because she did not press charges. Otherwise he would likely have been convicted criminally. Instead he was only convicted in the court of public opinion.

That being said, I don't buy this never hit a woman chivalry garbage either. Sure there is no need for physical retaliation if a woman hits you once and stops. Nor is there a need for physical retaliation to the same scale you would against a man. However if a woman is constantly going in as hard as she can and won't either let the man walk away or leave him alone in event the altercation is in the man's home, then there is no faulting the man for getting physical back. Screw this soft bigotry of low expectations acting like a women can't be expected to control themselves like an adult while the man is held to, not a modified or slightly different standard, but exact opposite standard.
My best friend is a cop, and the #1 call he gets is for domestic violence. He says its a pretty even split on the gender of the abuser. Women hit men more than they get credit for. Some of them push and pick and hit and antagonize just so they can push him too far because once a man hits a woman its over even if she hit him first. In the court of public opinion, a man cant hit a women even if she is hitting him first and often. I agree its a kind of soft bigotry. The biggest issue though, is the public assumption that women are innocent and its only men who are abusers. The mentality of people like WVUALLEN is bad for society.
 

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Just because court drops the case doesn't mean they think he's innocent. The liberal is you on your knees *****. Don't beat your wife / girlfriend today.
Back away from the Lifetime network Allen. Next thing you know you'll have man boobs, if you dont already.
 

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My best friend is a cop, and the #1 call he gets is for domestic violence. He says its a pretty even split on the gender of the abuser. Women hit men more than they get credit for. Some of them push and pick and hit and antagonize just so they can push him too far because once a man hits a woman its over even if she hit him first. In the court of public opinion, a man cant hit a women even if she is hitting him first and often. I agree its a kind of soft bigotry. The biggest issue though, is the public assumption that women are innocent and its only men who are abusers. The mentality of people like WVUALLEN is bad for society.
Does your wife/girlfriend beat the **** out of you?
 

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Bringing him on as an assistant would be doable if Beard gives an honest story as to what happened (understanding there are probably NDAs limiting his transparency) and shows that WVU is actively supporting his efforts to correct whatever shortcomings led to his dismissal from Texas.
Huggs is done. He needs to bring a HCIW for next season and transition into being a money raising entity for WVU. He loves to tell stories and loves WVU. Money drives this train now more than ever. WVU needs a guy like him dedicated to that. Let Beard take over as HC in 2024-25.
 
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My best friend is a cop, and the #1 call he gets is for domestic violence. He says its a pretty even split on the gender of the abuser. Women hit men more than they get credit for. Some of them push and pick and hit and antagonize just so they can push him too far because once a man hits a woman its over even if she hit him first. In the court of public opinion, a man cant hit a women even if she is hitting him first and often. I agree its a kind of soft bigotry. The biggest issue though, is the public assumption that women are innocent and its only men who are abusers. The mentality of people like WVUALLEN is bad for society.

When cases of domestic violence only involve adults, the majority are not Cinderella like cases where an innocent person is put upon by a villain. It's usually 2 trash people where one is more trashy and in the wrong than the other. Statistically this is likely the case with Beard
 

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When cases of domestic violence only involve adults, the majority are not Cinderella like cases where an innocent person is put upon by a villain. It's usually 2 trash people where one is more trashy and in the wrong than the other. Statistically this is likely the case with Beard
Not only is it usually an unhealthy relationship on both sides but despite all the abuse drama and hatred, many of them are codependent which makes it more likely the crappy relationship will last a long time. Sometimes a life time. They hate each other but can't break up lol. It's insane
 

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When cases of domestic violence only involve adults, the majority are not Cinderella like cases where an innocent person is put upon by a villain. It's usually 2 trash people where one is more trashy and in the wrong than the other. Statistically this is likely the case with Beard
Disagree.
 
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Not only is it usually an unhealthy relationship on both sides but despite all the abuse drama and hatred, many of them are codependent which makes it more likely the crappy relationship will last a long time. Sometimes a life time. They hate each other but can't break up lol. It's insane

I'm well aware. I see it all the time. It's just situations are rarely the sad sack, clear victim cases movie and TV portray. The average homeless person is not a hard working person who fell into some bad luck, but rather the vast majority are POS junkies who have burned every bridge at shelters and charities by refusing to even try to get clean. The average welfare recipient is not a poor single mother who was an upright citizen before her "baby daddy" abandoned her and now she has to choose between rice and beans to eat or her 4 dollar prescription medicine. It is more often a POS who repeatedly makes poor life and financial decisions who uses welfare to subsidize those decisions to the point of that most are multi-generational welfare dependent.
 
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Disagree.

You are free to do so. But the truth is the majority of domestic violence involves the impoverished and substance dependent. The average domestic abuse case is a Jesco White like family. Exceptions do not disprove the rule and it is rare that a single person on the relationship is just a sociopath that had no inciting reason for the physical altercation.
 

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You are free to do so. But the truth is the majority of domestic violence involves the impoverished and substance dependent. The average domestic abuse case is a Jesco White like family. Exceptions do not disprove the rule and it is rare that a single person on the relationship is just a sociopath that had no inciting reason for the physical altercation.
There are wealthy people who slap their wife around and middle class types as well that abuse them. Majority of the time the men are usually alcoholics. The women who abuse men are usually just plain ole bitches.
 

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Travis County District Attorney José Garza announced Wednesday that based on the case evidence and the fiancee’s wishes not to prosecute, he would not likely get a conviction.

Even when initial police reports documented other evidence such as bite marks and an abrasion on her face, prosecutors had little chance of winning a conviction without a cooperative witness, domestic violence experts say.

“When a survivor is speaking publicly saying it didn’t happen, that makes it tough” for a felony prosecutor to proceed, said Jeana Lungwitz, clinical law professor at the University of Texas and founder and director of the school’s Domestic Violence Clinic. “What made it a felony (charge) was the strangulation.”

“When a survivor calls law enforcement, they just want whatever is happening to stop,” Lungwitz said. “They often don’t want bad things to happen to their partners. They don’t want them to lose their job. They don’t want them to go to jail. They are scared and just want them to stop in that moment.”


~By Jim Vertuno, Associated Press
Published February 19, 2023