No way I'd take Montrezl in the draft

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Originally posted by STEVE!:
I don't like any of the UL players, but a hard working 6'6" PF can have a decent career and make a living in the NBA. See Chuck Hayes. Harrell could probably have a similar career, if he doesn't get killed by someone after flexing.
I'm sorry but Montrezl is NOT Chuck Hayes. Comparing him to Chuck is a disservice to Chuck.
 

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Montfizzle can flex and make faces with the best of them. And lord knows that 6foot7ish players who can dunk are few and far between. You combine his freakish ability to flex AND make faces while screaming after a dunk.....oooooh baby that is a rare combination.
 

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Lol I was thinking the same think bigblue, Harrell will end up being a broke man's Kenneth Faried.
 

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Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:
the Twins aren't one of them.
You're one of those "rational fans" that I've heard about, huh? Why else would you argue so adamantly against one of our guys?

Hezzel doesn't have half the maturity that either of the Harrisons have. He's a disruption to the team he's on now and will be a bigger distraction on whatever team is saddled with him in the future.
 
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Originally posted by ymmot31:
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:
the Twins aren't one of them.
You're one of those "rational fans" that I've heard about, huh? Why else would you argue so adamantly against one of our guys?

Hezzel doesn't have half the maturity that either of the Harrisons have. He's a disruption to the team he's on now and will be a bigger distraction on whatever team is saddled with him in the future.
I don't post with blue tinted glasses on.
 

BBUK_anon

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Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:


Originally posted by ymmot31:

Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:
the Twins aren't one of them.
You're one of those "rational fans" that I've heard about, huh? Why else would you argue so adamantly against one of our guys?

Hezzel doesn't have half the maturity that either of the Harrisons have. He's a disruption to the team he's on now and will be a bigger distraction on whatever team is saddled with him in the future.
I don't post with blue tinted glasses on.
That's for damn sure. For once I agree with you. I won't waste time debating with you but your last post I agree with you 100%.

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Originally posted by BBUK:
Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:


Originally posted by ymmot31:

Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:
the Twins aren't one of them.
You're one of those "rational fans" that I've heard about, huh? Why else would you argue so adamantly against one of our guys?

Hezzel doesn't have half the maturity that either of the Harrisons have. He's a disruption to the team he's on now and will be a bigger distraction on whatever team is saddled with him in the future.
I don't post with blue tinted glasses on.
That's for damn sure. For once I agree with you. I won't waste time debating with you but your last post I agree with you 100%.

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I find it funny how you've avoided every post of mine and failed to make a case for the Twins.
 

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Mr. I'm-Gonna-Prove-What-A-Rational-Fan-I-Am-By-Trashing-My-Team....

One of the biggest types of jackass message board posters...
 

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Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:


Originally posted by BBUK:

Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:



Originally posted by ymmot31:


Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:
the Twins aren't one of them.
You're one of those "rational fans" that I've heard about, huh? Why else would you argue so adamantly against one of our guys?

Hezzel doesn't have half the maturity that either of the Harrisons have. He's a disruption to the team he's on now and will be a bigger distraction on whatever team is saddled with him in the future.
I don't post with blue tinted glasses on.
That's for damn sure. For once I agree with you. I won't waste time debating with you but your last post I agree with you 100%.

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I find it funny how you've avoided every post of mine and failed to make a case for the Twins.
I am not avoiding you. As hard as you're fighting for Montrezl and against the Twins I won't call you a troll but I see VERY few Cat fans spend your type energy fighting against the UK players or a post about them. Maybe you can explain that? Not wearing blue-tinted glasses is not a good enough excuse. It's not.

Just this once:

Take your pick which Twin; They fit a lot better in their position than Montrezl does at his, it makes no difference in college but it does in the Pro's. The Twins have a winning mind set and they can play AND shoot from anywhere on the floor. They can dunk and rebound as well as Montrezl. They handle themselves better in every situation and are much more grounded in their approach to the game. I don't think their potential has been realized yet. Montrezl is playing above his ability now. Montrezl plays the game on emotion and adrenalin. He does not have the skills for his position to play any other way or he would.

I do not know basketball anywhere near like I know baseball but it is very easy to see the Twins have a much better chance to excel at their position in the Pro's than Montrezl does at his.

I stand by my original post; either Twin should be drafted before Montrezl.
 
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Originally posted by BBUK:
I am not avoiding you. As hard as you're fighting for Montrezl and against the Twins I won't call you a troll but I see VERY few Cat fans spend your type energy fighting against the UK players or a post about them. Maybe you can explain that? Not wearing blue-tinted glasses is not a good enough excuse. It's not.

Just this once:

Take your pick which Twin; They fit a lot better in their position than Montrezl does at his, it makes no difference in college but it does in the Pro's. The Twins have a winning mind set and they can play AND shoot from anywhere on the floor. They can dunk and rebound as well as Montrezl. They handle themselves better in every situation and are much more grounded in their approach to the game. I don't think their potential has been realized yet. Montrezl is playing above his ability now. Montrezl plays the game on emotion and adrenalin. He does not have the skills for his position to play any other way or he would.

I do not know basketball anywhere near like I know baseball but it is very easy to see the Twins have a much better chance to excel at their position in the Pro's than Montrezl does at his.

I stand by my original post; either Twin should be drafted before Montrezl.
You kinda challenged me with your response to me in this thread, so i took a strong position.

Most of your points don't hold much weight when you dive into the numbers, but i'm going to stop right here. If i Break it down player by player, people in this thread will think i'm out to bash the Twins.
 

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Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:


Originally posted by BBUK:

I am not avoiding you. As hard as you're fighting for Montrezl and against the Twins I won't call you a troll but I see VERY few Cat fans spend your type energy fighting against the UK players or a post about them. Maybe you can explain that? Not wearing blue-tinted glasses is not a good enough excuse. It's not.

Just this once:

Take your pick which Twin; They fit a lot better in their position than Montrezl does at his, it makes no difference in college but it does in the Pro's. The Twins have a winning mind set and they can play AND shoot from anywhere on the floor. They can dunk and rebound as well as Montrezl. They handle themselves better in every situation and are much more grounded in their approach to the game. I don't think their potential has been realized yet. Montrezl is playing above his ability now. Montrezl plays the game on emotion and adrenalin. He does not have the skills for his position to play any other way or he would.

I do not know basketball anywhere near like I know baseball but it is very easy to see the Twins have a much better chance to excel at their position in the Pro's than Montrezl does at his.

I stand by my original post; either Twin should be drafted before Montrezl.
You kinda challenged me with your response to me in this thread, so i took a strong position.

Most of your points don't hold much weight when you dive into the numbers, but i'm going to stop right here. If i Break it down player by player, people in this thread will think i'm out to bash the Twins.
You're right and I again, agree. If you're a UK fan let's just root this team a Championship and debate it later.
 

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Originally posted by michaeluk26:
Yay, more people talking about what the Harrisons cant do. Just like Cal said, everything gets blamed on Andrew. People love to take shots at him. It there is a car wreck, its Andrews fault. Thats actually what Cal said. It never fails, anytime one of the twins is brought up people love to jump in and talk about what they cant do instead of what they have done and are currently doing, like saving our asses more than once this season. Oh, and leading us to the title game last year.
Your spot on. The twins has led us to the title game last year and has led us to 20-0 this yr. and yet some think they can't play. My back hurts so I guess that is the twins fault. I'm totally surprised and actually shocked the way some fans have treated the twins.
 

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Anthony Bennett was a 6'6 PF and he went # 1 overall 2 years ago.

Granted, he was a top 10 pick based on production his FR year over a #1 pick but still if you can play, your size isn't gonna matter if you have other attributes to cover it.
 

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Harrell can have a future in the league but as a low 1st rounder or early 2nd. Just looks outmanned against nba length and doesn't yet know how to play to his strengths against those guys.
What he needs to do is get Chuck Hayes or Charles Barkley to work with him. A short guy like him can survive in the league all you have to do is look at the few in the league. Barkley was as dominent as u can get. Dude had no mercy on the court.
 

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Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

Montrezl's best shot is trying to be a poor mans Kenneth Faried.
This.

The little secret about Harrell that will come out in the combine is how much UL has been overlisting his height, in reality the guy barely even scrapes 6'6", which for a guy who really only has the skills for the power forward spot is mighty small.
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Still, there are such undersized 4s who've made it as designated high energy/rebounding specialists, Faried would probably be the best current example and the guy Harrell would be best served to emulate.
 

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Originally posted by Orange Soda King:
Lol so Montrezl is 6'5" now? I thought he's between 6'7" and 6'8"
When he was measured under controlled conditions by USA basketball he measured out at 6'5" and three-fourths without shoes, and 6''6" and half with shoes (link) .

That's the best current indicator of his actual height. The 6'8" listing UL has been giving him is a joke, in reality he's not even close to that.
 

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Originally posted by bigblueinsanity:

Montrezl's best shot is trying to be a poor mans Kenneth Faried.
And he definitely ain't close to being Faried.
 
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Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:


He's an explosive athlete with a absurd 7' 3 wingspan. Only Towns is longer on this team. I get it, he's a 6"6 PF. Thats part of the reason I'm not too high on him, but he has some other great physical traits that will help him make up for it.

He'll have a role in the NBA once he steps on the floor. Play with a firing motor , rebound every ball thats near him and covert easy baskets ( dunks,layups). He's proven in college to do all these things. Playing with his motor is a skill.


Andrew is undraftable at this point. As an NBA prospect, he's pretty bad. He literally does nothing that you can point to and say " Oh, he's good at this. This will translate to the next level."

I believe Aaron is better than his numbers suggest, but right now he's not efficient. He's an average athlete. He's not a creator for himself or others. He projects to be a spot up shooter at the next level, yet he can't be depended to do that efficiently.
I agree with you for the most part, except that his wingspan isn't what I'd call absurd by NBA standards. That's pretty comparable to a large amount of PFs in the league. Of course it depends on how he gets used; 7'3 is pretty damn good for a wing, but it's hard to picture him playing there consistently
 
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Tonight Bennett played 10 minutes and didn't score, had one rebound, and one foul. In his first year, Bennett had one of the worst years ever for a number 1 pick. He was traded to Minnesota, one of the worst teams in the league, and he doesn't play much.

Bennett is a great argument why Montrezl will not do well in the NBA and should be a second round draft pick.
 

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Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:
People here laugh at the ridiculous things UL fans say, yet we have some fans making threads like this.

i'm not a fan of a Trez as a prospect, but he's clearly a better prospect, even with some of his flaws.

Now, theres about 6 players on this team i'd draft over Trez, the Twins aren't one of them.


This post was edited on 1/23 1:19 PM by 5iveStarRecruit
I don't quite understand how you can say he is clearly a better prospect. His game is around the rim. In college he may get away with what he does, however, in the Pros he is simply to small and too weak to go in against the big guys. He doesn't have the talent to play any place else. The Harrison's, though maybe not the greatest players in the world, are solid guards and will be able to contribute at their positions. Now it may well be true that the Harrison's are not as individually talented as Harrell, but as far as NBA prospects are concerned they are way ahead simply because they play a different position.
 

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Originally posted by JonathanUSAF:
You think they are as far along as Meeks or Bogans at the same point? I agree that Aaron may be close although I do not personally see it, but feel Andrew's growth as a player is not progressing at this point. I wish the twins nothing but luck, success and well wishes, but as another poster stated, had they gone to Maryland and we were facing Maryland, Ulis and Booker would not only match up very well, but probably win the match up decisively.

My two cents is that those who follow national recruiting for a living over hyped them and set them up for failure. Had they not been twins (or brothers), I think they would have been labeled as nice four star players who could provide bench relief to your starters as they learned how to grow and prosper as players. I think they would have been rated somewhere around where Charles Matthews is currently ranked.
I think the Harrison's are better than they get credit for. Aaron was amazing in the ncaa tournament last year. They're mid way through their soph. year. I think they step up big when it counts come March.