Aren't they? I thought we were all going to be much safer under Trump. I thought he wasn't going to let N. Korea or China or Iran get away with anything? Geez, seems like there isn't much of a difference
North Korea is really cowering in the face of this "alpha dog", "real American", "winner" leadership
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Are you worried about the N. Koreans boom? I thought it was the Russians who were out to get us, and Trump was setting them up to do so?
Now I'm confused.
So many on the right talked about how China, Iran, and North Korea got away with so much under Obama. Weak and feckless leadership under Obama allowed things that under a real leader (like Trump) wouldn't happen was the song I heard over and over. Now what?
Well, I thought our negotiations under Clinton stopped N. Korea from future testing of Nukes boom?
I thought we lifted sanctions against them and Iran because we had assurances they were going to behave? Obama claimed Iran was no longer a "nuclear threat" and would never develop Nukes didn't he?
I thought Obama told us China was our real enemy boom, not Russia? In fact, he dismissed the Russian involvement in our election.
http://conservativetribune.com/obama-trump-russian-hacking/
Now all of a sudden Trump's lying for warning us about all of these bad actors?
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Who said that North Korea was going to stop acting recklessly under Trump? I have never seen anyone suggest that.
And the right just keeps moving the goalposts, and blaming Obama. Oh, and what about that 30 day plan to defeat ISIS? Or the MASSIVE voter fraud that cost Trump the popular vote?
What was that boom? I thought Trump simply ordered a plan within 30 days for his review, not that they would be "defeated" in 30 days? Can you link me to where he said otherwise?
Aren't they still investigating it Boom? Didn't they recently find that something like over 800,000 votes in California alone were cast by illegals?
http://www.investors.com/politics/e...llions-of-illegals-probably-did-vote-in-2016/
/insert wat? RPJ's sidepiece
I believe you are misinformed. I believe it was a plan within 30 days. I believe it was delivered.
I tell you what. If all this bs turns out to be straight democratic strategic smoke screens, and there really was voter fraud in excess of 1million votes, and Obama wire tapped the tower, and ISIS is gone by years end.....for each instance, I will post a thread that simply says I was sorry for doubting Trump and liberals need to take a look at themselves before making any other accusations of the right. But if it all turns out to be Trump bs rhetoric, I hope you guys take a hard look at what the right has really become
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-pacific-15278612
Nuclear tensions rise
2009January - North Korea says it is scrapping all military and political deals with the South, accusing it of "hostile intent".
2009April - North Korea launches a long-range rocket, carrying what it says is a communications satellite; its neighbours accuse it of testing long-range missile technology. Condemnation from the UN Security Council prompts North Korea to walk out of six-party talks and restart its nuclear facilities.
2009May - North Korea carries out its second underground nuclear test. UN Security Council condemns move in June.
2009August - North Korea frees American journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee after former US President Bill Clinton facilitates their release. The pair was sentenced to 12 years hard labour for allegedly crossing the border illegally.
North makes conciliatory gestures to South, sending delegation to funeral of former President Kim Dae-jung, releasing four South Korean fishermen, and agreeing to resume family reunions.
2009November - North Korea's state-run news agency reports the reprocessing of 8,000 spent fuel rods is complete, garnering enough weapons-grade plutonium for one to two nuclear bombs.
2010February - Increased social unrest reportedly leads the government to relax free market restrictions after a 2009 currency revaluation wiped out many cash savings in the country.
Sinking of Cheonan
2010March - North Korea sinks South Korean warship Cheonan near sea border.
2010September - Kim Jong-il's youngest son Kim Jong-un is appointed to senior political and military posts, fuelling speculation of a possible succession.
2010November - North Korea reportedly shows an eminent visiting American nuclear scientist a new secretly-built facility for enriching uranium at its Yongbyon complex. The revelation sparks alarm and anger in US, South and Japan.
Cross-border clash near disputed maritime border results in the deaths of two South Korean marines. North Korea's military insists it did not open fire first and blames the South for the incident.
Succession
2011December - Death of Kim Jong-il. Kim Jong-un presides at funeral and takes over key posts by April.
2012April - Rocket launch - viewed internationally as a banned test of long-range Taepodong-2 missile technology - fails. North Korea says aim was to put a satellite into orbit to mark 100th birth anniversary of Kim Il-sung.
2012October - North Korea claims it has missiles than can hit the US mainland after South Korea and Washington announce a deal to extend the range of South Korea's ballistic missiles.
2012December - North Korea successfully launches a "rocket-mounted satellite" into orbit following a failed attempt in April.
Third nuclear test
2013February - UN approves fresh sanctions after North Korea stages its third nuclear test, said to be more powerful than the 2009 test.
2013April - North Korea says it will restart all facilities at its main Yongbyon nuclear complex and briefly withdraws its 53,000-strong workforce from the South-Korean-funded Kaesong joint industrial park stalling operations at 123 South Korean factories.
2013July - Panama impounds a North Korean ship carrying two MiG-21 jet fighters under bags of sugar. The UN later blacklists the ship's operator.
2013September - Sole ally China bans export to North Korea of items that could be used to make missiles or nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.
2013December - Kim Jong-un's uncle, Chang Song-thaek, is found guilty of attempting to overthrow the state and is summarily executed - in a purge seen as the biggest shake-up since the death of Kim Jong-il in 2011.
2014March - North Korea test-fires two medium-range Rodong ballistic missiles for the first time since 2009, in violation of UN resolutions and just hours after the US, South Korea and Japan met in the Netherlands for talks.
Two drones allegedly from North Korea are found in the south, sparking concerns about the north's intelligence gathering capabilities.
2014October - Officials pay surprise visit to south, agree to resume formal talks that have been suspended since February.
2014December - North Korea and US exchange accusations of cyber-attacks over a Sony Pictures film mocking Kim Jong-un, prompting new US sanctions the following month.
2015August - South Korea halts loudspeaker propaganda broadcasts across the Demilitarised Zone after the North fires on them during annual US/South-Korean military exercises.
Nuclear push
2015September - North Korea confirms it has put its Yongbyon nuclear plant - mothballed in 2007 - back into operation.
2015December - US imposes new sanctions on North Korea over weapons proliferation, targeting the army's Strategic Rocket Force, banks and shipping companies.
2016January - Government announcement of first hydrogen bomb test met with widespread expert scepticism.
2016May - Kim Jong-un holds the first Workers Party congress since 1980, in what is seen as a move to entrench his power.
2016August - North Korean submarine fires a KN-11 ballistic missile off its east coast which travels about 500km (300 miles) before falling into the Sea of Japan.
2016September - North Korea carries out its fifth and reportedly biggest nuclear test, saying it has mastered the ability to mount a warhead on a ballistic missile.
2016November - UN Security Council further tightens sanctions by aiming to cut one of North Korea's main exports, coal, by 60 per cent.
North Korea holds three days of national mourning following the death of Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.
2017January - Kim Jong-un says North Korea is in the final stages of developing long-range guided missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
China expands its ban on goods to North Korea that could potentially be used to build weapons of mass destruction. items on the list range from drone software to high-speed video cameras.
North Korean diplomat Thae Yong-ho, who defected from the country's London embassy in 2016, tells foreign media he believes that "Kim Jong-un's days are numbered" and that the regime is on an inexorable decline towards collapse.
2017February-North Korea fires a ballistic missile into the Sea of Japan amid widespread international condemnation.
Kim Jong-un's estranged half-brother Kim Jong-nam is killed by a highly toxic VX nerve agent at an airport in Kuala Lumpur according to investigations carried out by Malaysian authorities. North Korea demand the release of three suspects detained by Malaysian police.
China suspends all coal imports from North Korea in an effort to increase pressure on Pyongyang following the latest North Korean missile test.
Nuclear tensions rise
2009January - North Korea says it is scrapping all military and political deals with the South, accusing it of "hostile intent".
2009April - North Korea launches a long-range rocket, carrying what it says is a communications satellite; its neighbours accuse it of testing long-range missile technology. Condemnation from the UN Security Council prompts North Korea to walk out of six-party talks and restart its nuclear facilities.
2009May - North Korea carries out its second underground nuclear test. UN Security Council condemns move in June.
2009August - North Korea frees American journalists Laura Ling and Euna Lee after former US President Bill Clinton facilitates their release. The pair was sentenced to 12 years hard labour for allegedly crossing the border illegally.
North makes conciliatory gestures to South, sending delegation to funeral of former President Kim Dae-jung, releasing four South Korean fishermen, and agreeing to resume family reunions.
2009November - North Korea's state-run news agency reports the reprocessing of 8,000 spent fuel rods is complete, garnering enough weapons-grade plutonium for one to two nuclear bombs.
2010February - Increased social unrest reportedly leads the government to relax free market restrictions after a 2009 currency revaluation wiped out many cash savings in the country.
Sinking of Cheonan
2010March - North Korea sinks South Korean warship Cheonan near sea border.
2010September - Kim Jong-il's youngest son Kim Jong-un is appointed to senior political and military posts, fuelling speculation of a possible succession.
2010November - North Korea reportedly shows an eminent visiting American nuclear scientist a new secretly-built facility for enriching uranium at its Yongbyon complex. The revelation sparks alarm and anger in US, South and Japan.
Cross-border clash near disputed maritime border results in the deaths of two South Korean marines. North Korea's military insists it did not open fire first and blames the South for the incident.
Succession
2011December - Death of Kim Jong-il. Kim Jong-un presides at funeral and takes over key posts by April.
2012April - Rocket launch - viewed internationally as a banned test of long-range Taepodong-2 missile technology - fails. North Korea says aim was to put a satellite into orbit to mark 100th birth anniversary of Kim Il-sung.
2012October - North Korea claims it has missiles than can hit the US mainland after South Korea and Washington announce a deal to extend the range of South Korea's ballistic missiles.
2012December - North Korea successfully launches a "rocket-mounted satellite" into orbit following a failed attempt in April.
Third nuclear test
2013February - UN approves fresh sanctions after North Korea stages its third nuclear test, said to be more powerful than the 2009 test.
2013April - North Korea says it will restart all facilities at its main Yongbyon nuclear complex and briefly withdraws its 53,000-strong workforce from the South-Korean-funded Kaesong joint industrial park stalling operations at 123 South Korean factories.
2013July - Panama impounds a North Korean ship carrying two MiG-21 jet fighters under bags of sugar. The UN later blacklists the ship's operator.
2013September - Sole ally China bans export to North Korea of items that could be used to make missiles or nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.
2013December - Kim Jong-un's uncle, Chang Song-thaek, is found guilty of attempting to overthrow the state and is summarily executed - in a purge seen as the biggest shake-up since the death of Kim Jong-il in 2011.
2014March - North Korea test-fires two medium-range Rodong ballistic missiles for the first time since 2009, in violation of UN resolutions and just hours after the US, South Korea and Japan met in the Netherlands for talks.
Two drones allegedly from North Korea are found in the south, sparking concerns about the north's intelligence gathering capabilities.
2014October - Officials pay surprise visit to south, agree to resume formal talks that have been suspended since February.
2014December - North Korea and US exchange accusations of cyber-attacks over a Sony Pictures film mocking Kim Jong-un, prompting new US sanctions the following month.
2015August - South Korea halts loudspeaker propaganda broadcasts across the Demilitarised Zone after the North fires on them during annual US/South-Korean military exercises.
Nuclear push
2015September - North Korea confirms it has put its Yongbyon nuclear plant - mothballed in 2007 - back into operation.
2015December - US imposes new sanctions on North Korea over weapons proliferation, targeting the army's Strategic Rocket Force, banks and shipping companies.
2016January - Government announcement of first hydrogen bomb test met with widespread expert scepticism.
2016May - Kim Jong-un holds the first Workers Party congress since 1980, in what is seen as a move to entrench his power.
2016August - North Korean submarine fires a KN-11 ballistic missile off its east coast which travels about 500km (300 miles) before falling into the Sea of Japan.
2016September - North Korea carries out its fifth and reportedly biggest nuclear test, saying it has mastered the ability to mount a warhead on a ballistic missile.
2016November - UN Security Council further tightens sanctions by aiming to cut one of North Korea's main exports, coal, by 60 per cent.
North Korea holds three days of national mourning following the death of Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro.
2017January - Kim Jong-un says North Korea is in the final stages of developing long-range guided missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads.
China expands its ban on goods to North Korea that could potentially be used to build weapons of mass destruction. items on the list range from drone software to high-speed video cameras.
North Korean diplomat Thae Yong-ho, who defected from the country's London embassy in 2016, tells foreign media he believes that "Kim Jong-un's days are numbered" and that the regime is on an inexorable decline towards collapse.
2017February-North Korea fires a ballistic missile into the Sea of Japan amid widespread international condemnation.
Kim Jong-un's estranged half-brother Kim Jong-nam is killed by a highly toxic VX nerve agent at an airport in Kuala Lumpur according to investigations carried out by Malaysian authorities. North Korea demand the release of three suspects detained by Malaysian police.
China suspends all coal imports from North Korea in an effort to increase pressure on Pyongyang following the latest North Korean missile test.
His voter fraud claim was actually 3 million and it fizzed soon after.
And he said (verbally) 3-5 million.
Anybody remember what Madeline all stupid said when she authorized he nuclear reactor to be built? "These are people we can work with." Another colossal mistake by our state department.
Correct countryroads89. I think you can also assume they (N.Koreans) will be handled differently by this administration.
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For starters, he want to give S. Korea some nukes. He wants to send some to Japan and Saudi Arabia as well. Great plan.
I do know the North Koreans do not have the capability to strike the U.S. (yet) before we could deliver unacceptable damages to them either through S. Korea or Japan.
That would at least serve as a deterrent to N. Korean aggression. However, I also believe Trump and Tillerson will actively work to sanction N. Korea from international trade, and further isolate them for their willfull violations of both U.N. nuclear non proliferation agreements and bi-lateral agreements with the U.S. which they have systematically violated for at least the past 8 years with no repercussions.
I'm not sure there is a better alternative right now short of an all attack on them, which would serve nothing more than to allow you folks on the Left to label Trump a "war monger".
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