NOT A BELIEVER YET...........
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The OP ALWAYS posts his TROLLING opinion then you NEVER hear from him again in the thread.
I realize it's fun to bash his lack of football knowledge, but I can't help but think he is a UofL fan that thinks he's accomplished something by getting responses.
He isn't fooling anyone.:chairshot:
I realize it's fun to bash his lack of football knowledge, but I can't help but think he is a UofL fan that thinks he's accomplished something by getting responses.
He isn't fooling anyone.:chairshot:
I think stoops is going to set uk back a decade but the OP is a known troll. Won't respond directly. He should've been banned years ago.
I don't hope for things. As for becoming a believer, I will believe WHEN the program starts winning consistently. Stoops is a first time head coach and is still learning. Can he become a good head coach? Time will tell.
I'm impressed with the turn around following the Southern Miss and Florida debacles to start the season. Yeah, Mizzou is terrible but UK has never dominated an SEC opponent even on the road. UK has gotten a lot of breaks in these games but it's pretty clear they are playing with confidence and that's something that hasn't been seen around here in a long time. I'm not 100% sold on Stoops but he's getting the job done right now and the big test is Saturday. Georgia is down a bit, but they are still Georgia and very capable of whipping UK around if they get some early momentum in the game.
If this last few weeks should of taught anyone something, it's that it can turn quickly so I'm still a little hesitant to proclaim anything. This has been one bizarre year and let's hope we keep it going Saturday.
If this last few weeks should of taught anyone something, it's that it can turn quickly so I'm still a little hesitant to proclaim anything. This has been one bizarre year and let's hope we keep it going Saturday.
Trolls and lack of knowledge football fans are so easy to spot.
1. Lose to Southern Miss - "oh my GOD, we lost to a team we should NEVER lose to."
2. Beat Missouri, Miss State, Vandy, SC. - "well, we have not beat a team with a winning record, these teams are horrible. Tell me when we beat a team worth a damn. They still have not beat anybody significant this year, those teams are bad teams."
We lose to these teams, sky is falling.
We beat those teams, well they are not any good so we really didn't accomplish anything.
Ok got it. Hell, find another team to cheer for, one you will get more enjoyment out of,,, say maybe a front runner. I hear Washington Huskies are looking for a few new fans.
1. Lose to Southern Miss - "oh my GOD, we lost to a team we should NEVER lose to."
2. Beat Missouri, Miss State, Vandy, SC. - "well, we have not beat a team with a winning record, these teams are horrible. Tell me when we beat a team worth a damn. They still have not beat anybody significant this year, those teams are bad teams."
We lose to these teams, sky is falling.
We beat those teams, well they are not any good so we really didn't accomplish anything.
Ok got it. Hell, find another team to cheer for, one you will get more enjoyment out of,,, say maybe a front runner. I hear Washington Huskies are looking for a few new fans.
So, 1. you have NEVER believed in UK football (we have never been a consistent winner) 2. And NEVER had hope (since you don't hope) for the program.
So, with the above FACTS stated by you; your are by your statements not a UK fan.
obvious question is, "why are you here?"
Your logic is astoundingly bad. I said we've never been a consistent winner and you claim that means I've never believed in UK football. I was ON THE TEAM so yeah, I think that counts me in as a believer. As for "hoping", that's just a waste of time and thought. I can't control how well the team does or how well it is coached and my "hoping" isn't going to make it better or worse. It is what it is. Sure, I want the team to succeed and I cheer for them but I don't waste my time on hope. If you don't like my posts, ignore them.
well, maybe you should word things a little better...
man, you are grumpy...
and your right...I shouldn't waste my time on your posts. I am wasting it on the hope (since, you nor I can control any facet of the team play) that Stoops can turn it around.
I'm a grumpy old man, stay off my lawn! Not the first time I've heard that.
Don't know your age but I'm pushing 55 and I've seen it happen over and over that just when we seem to get some momentum going with the program, something happens to kill it. Or we get a new coach with all these promises, we see some improvements but we never get to 8, 9, or 10 wins. We've had darn few 8 or 9 win seasons and you can count on two fingers the number of seasons with double digit wins. I would love for CMS to be the guy that fixes it. I just haven't been impressed with what I've seen but that's just my opinion. And you know what they say about those... [poop]
Couldnt have said it better myself. I'll give him credit for the turn around and the fact we can finally beat the terrible teams in our league. But if we dont beat one of UGA, UL, or UT. Then it would 100% be fools gold. Hell i honestly feel like we have to beat one of UL or UT for us to be sold on Stoops because UGA is a terrible team. As of now. We're a product of a very weak SEC slate. People will bash you for being truthful because the board is full of homers. But even the talking heads that get paid to do this have said all over the SECN that we're just beating up on terrible teams on that moment and we not yet beaten a quality opponent (some might say USC is a quality opponent but look at the QBR of the QB we faced and the QBR of the QB now). We have to beat a quality opponent with a winning record before we anoint Stoops king. Which is something that hasnt happened in years. We haven't beaten a winning team in a long time now. I think we will this season. But it has yet to happen. We have to beat a quality opponent with a winning record before we call Stoops our savior. Those who disagree have zero knowledge of the game.
So if Stoops can't beat one of
So if Stoops can't beat one of UGA, UT or UL then the turn-around we have all seen is fools gold? I hate to tell you, but going 6-6 with the improvement we have seen from the beginning of the year is a success, especially after the first 2.5 games. The team is getting better on both sides of the ball and on the sideline. There's no denying that.
UGA, UT and UL all have more talent than us. That's not a question a question either. We will be an underdog in all three games. To say this improvement or Stoops is fools gold because we lose three games we are supposed to lose (on paper/in Vegas) is ignorant, though based on some of your takes in the past I can't say that I'm surprised.
So if Stoops can't beat one of UGA, UT or UL then the turn-around we have all seen is fools gold? I hate to tell you, but going 6-6 with the improvement we have seen from the beginning of the year is a success, especially after the first 2.5 games. The team is getting better on both sides of the ball and on the sideline. There's no denying that.
UGA, UT and UL all have more talent than us. That's not a question a question either. We will be an underdog in all three games. To say this improvement or Stoops is fools gold because we lose three games we are supposed to lose (on paper/in Vegas) is ignorant, though based on some of your takes in the past I can't say that I'm surprised.
So just to play devil's advocate here, what happens if next year UK comes out and looks like crap the first 2 games but then "turns things around" and goes 6-6, will you be happy? And if every year we only beat the teams we're supposed to (on paper), that will make you happy too? Guess .500 is good enough for some people..
We've been dogs in all our SEC wins.. How does that translate to games we are supposed to win? USC and Vandy are both 4-4 but if they had beaten us they'd be 5-3 and easily destined for a bowl.. Instead we pulled out close games and rather than this being just another year we are the ones at 5-3 and in a position to make this a really special season.. Some people just don't want to be happy about uk football……
Were were 2 1/2 point favorites over USCjr and 3 point favorite over Vandy.
Well... Damn lol.. Hmm home field is supposedly worth 3 points so it was basically a push? :grimace:
At least I was right about being dogs in some of them.. And I'm definitely right about a portion of our fans not wanting to be happy with uk football and seeking out anything negative to say
I won't be happy if 6-6 is our limit, but if you keep improving then you likely will start being favored/supposed to win more games. If that happens, then yes, I will be happy. If we top out at 6-6, I won't be happy. I think we can do better. But I also am not one of the ones on here who think that 8-4/9-3 is the floor for UK. That is simply not realistic based on our recruiting base.
I simply can't understand this mentality. Either your a cat or not ? Not any middle ground here. I've been coming to football games since 72,season tickets since 75 and I've seen some good football and bad. However I never had to be convinced to believe in my team. Unconditional love for my cats!!!
I agree. While Saturday isn't technically a must win, it would be the biggest win in Stoops tenure so far. We would finish at the very least 7-5 and would finish with a winning SEC record I do believe.
For decades people have referred to Kentucky as "the Chicago Cubs of college football".
Now it looks like they may be on to something.
Now it looks like they may be on to something.
Guys, there is an easy way to figure out who to ignore and who to converse with...just look at the usernames and avatars used. The majority of the really bad posters in the lair all have one theme in common, just take a look.
No disrespect,but explayers complaining about the relative success of this season,should think both about their performance on the team,and the the teams success or failure while they were on it. UK football better embrace whatever success we attain,because every body knows it's few and far between! By the way,I'm 70,UK grad,watched since 1953, so I'm as qualified as anyone to have an informed opinion! 4 years doesn't turn this program around to the level it's an equal of itstraditional SEC rivals!
Understood. I think what some of the Stoops detractors fail to realize is that Stoops himself has fixed some of the things that make/made people feel the way they do about him.
Nobody can argue that he isn't a very good defensive coach, his track record speaks for it's self. He has taken a more active role in the defense and it has steadily improved.
The in game issues from the previous year or two don't seem to be there this year either.
Let's not forget that this is his FIRST HC job and it's a much different job than being a coordinator. He has been learning as he goes and he has corrected mistakes. I'm not saying he is the next Nick Saban or close to that, but he's a good young coach (in terms of HC experience).
Yes, I agree with you. I thought there would be a learning curve and thought he would correct some things more quickly than he did. Pulling the reins from DJ was huge, IMO. Some of us just wanted to see him take charge more quickly and when that didn't happen, doubts arose.
Get behind your team whether you're sold or not. That's what being a fan is.
As far as UK: Yeah, you're beating teams that aren't so good. Those are the same not so good teams that used to beat you. Got your first ever win over Dan Mullen this year. Getting good is a process, not a single event. It takes time and a series of things to happen. With this staff you've put in your time. The first in the series of events is to start beating the "lesser" opponents that you're trying to separate yourselves from. Looks good in that department right now. Next step is to beat someone you're not supposed to beat. You have 3 chances to do that this month. Win one of those three and you're moving onto the next step.
You're getting better and everyone sees it. Just hang in there because it's not a short ride for a school like UK, UofL, or any other non blue blood of college football.
As far as UK: Yeah, you're beating teams that aren't so good. Those are the same not so good teams that used to beat you. Got your first ever win over Dan Mullen this year. Getting good is a process, not a single event. It takes time and a series of things to happen. With this staff you've put in your time. The first in the series of events is to start beating the "lesser" opponents that you're trying to separate yourselves from. Looks good in that department right now. Next step is to beat someone you're not supposed to beat. You have 3 chances to do that this month. Win one of those three and you're moving onto the next step.
You're getting better and everyone sees it. Just hang in there because it's not a short ride for a school like UK, UofL, or any other non blue blood of college football.
a lot of wisdom in that statement.
Ironic that some of those that are belittling the team's success due to the teams we beat "not being good" are the same ones that complained that our recruiting classes were ranked lower than those very same teams. Can't have it both ways.
I'm kinda with the OP here. After four years, much improved recruiting and finally getting the in-game management under control I feel like we should be beating the USCjr's and Vandy's of the SEC.
The true litmus test comes against teams we haven't historically beaten. Georgia is one of those teams. Get the win this Saturday and many, many more will start to believe in Stoops. Play well (don't even have to win) in Knoxville and at Cesspool U then, things look much more positive.
The true litmus test comes against teams we haven't historically beaten. Georgia is one of those teams. Get the win this Saturday and many, many more will start to believe in Stoops. Play well (don't even have to win) in Knoxville and at Cesspool U then, things look much more positive.
"I won't be on board unless they win"
Wins game
"OKAY I can't support unless they win away game"
Wins away game
"This week I cant be happy unless they win noon kickoff game"
Wins game
"Okay I'm miserable until they win a game with 3 mph wind blowing towards the northwest corner of the endzone"...
Or its, "well these teams aren't any good." Yeah but UK usually doesn't beat teams that arent any good, so they are improving. "Well they didn't beat them by much." Okay. Then beats Missouri pretty soundly. "Well they aren't any good"
So if you win a game, it's not by enough because they aren't good, but then if you do, it's because they aren't any good. As said, people do realize some of those teams have better recruiting classes than us and we beat them, yet you bitched about not having a better recruiting ckass than them.Those are people that need to make friends or find a hobby like stepping on a rake.
Wins game
"OKAY I can't support unless they win away game"
Wins away game
"This week I cant be happy unless they win noon kickoff game"
Wins game
"Okay I'm miserable until they win a game with 3 mph wind blowing towards the northwest corner of the endzone"...
Or its, "well these teams aren't any good." Yeah but UK usually doesn't beat teams that arent any good, so they are improving. "Well they didn't beat them by much." Okay. Then beats Missouri pretty soundly. "Well they aren't any good"
So if you win a game, it's not by enough because they aren't good, but then if you do, it's because they aren't any good. As said, people do realize some of those teams have better recruiting classes than us and we beat them, yet you bitched about not having a better recruiting ckass than them.Those are people that need to make friends or find a hobby like stepping on a rake.
Yes, and SCAR beat UT.....That does NOT translate to us beating UT.....never does! SCAR always plays UT to the wire....the team we beat, beat the team we're playing next week looks good on paper, but rarely translates to the field. I hope I am wrong.....but I don't think we beat UT this year.....