Wow this isn’t good and the way they played and I am hoping that this won’t be a long year for them but they just didn’t look good whatsoever
Not GOOD
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Va Tech was very quick and Hawks did not have much "help defense" when original defender got beat. Free throw shooting-every body who has watched the first three games knows this is a major issue.
Probably the least in-depth analysis I've ever seen. They actually did many things well, including getting to the line and rebounding. They also did a couple of things poorly like going to the basket hard (aside from Koch), staying in front of very quick guards on defense and shooting free throws.
Virginia Tech went really small last night and we just aren't built to play that game,.. Poor defense, too many missed free throws, and weak shooting but we still should have collected the win,.. Oh well, long season.
Koch,Howard and coleman showed promise
Cooper actually showed offensive versatility I feared he lacked....maybe not just a catch and shoot guy?
Howard's all court game was great. If he can consistently shoot the three he is the ultimate glue guy like Jason Hart of knicks.
Coleman was the one hawk who could match quickness with va.tech guards and took it to rim with ease, and finished. He was ok staying in front of his guy on defense.
But, his outside shooting stroke and ft stroke looks like iron unkind.
We **** fts nervously all nite..drawing iron on many makes...contrast with their guards swishing so many.
If I did not know better, Cam looked like he was throwing the game.
His last stint he made mistake after mistake...horrible stretch.
Cam looks dis-engaged...and step slow.
Wonder if he has unknown issues going on?
In his post game presser,Ben roasted the players for lack of execution on defense..
He said they simply repeated same mistake on defending ball screens again and again.
He thinks it's correctable.....I still think we have a lack of quick that will be hard to coach over.
We desperately need another solid guard on our roster....curry or hammond of va.tech would be great in hawk uni.
Peyton is not ready..and may not be ever vs good teams.
Anyone catch MSU?
They look much quicker and athletic than VA tech.
Is Iowa ever going to have a roster of quick,athletic,stone cold ballers?
Have my doubts.
Coon,Coleman and Howard are our only athletes.
Cooper actually showed offensive versatility I feared he lacked....maybe not just a catch and shoot guy?
Howard's all court game was great. If he can consistently shoot the three he is the ultimate glue guy like Jason Hart of knicks.
Coleman was the one hawk who could match quickness with va.tech guards and took it to rim with ease, and finished. He was ok staying in front of his guy on defense.
But, his outside shooting stroke and ft stroke looks like iron unkind.
We **** fts nervously all nite..drawing iron on many makes...contrast with their guards swishing so many.
If I did not know better, Cam looked like he was throwing the game.
His last stint he made mistake after mistake...horrible stretch.
Cam looks dis-engaged...and step slow.
Wonder if he has unknown issues going on?
In his post game presser,Ben roasted the players for lack of execution on defense..
He said they simply repeated same mistake on defending ball screens again and again.
He thinks it's correctable.....I still think we have a lack of quick that will be hard to coach over.
We desperately need another solid guard on our roster....curry or hammond of va.tech would be great in hawk uni.
Peyton is not ready..and may not be ever vs good teams.
Anyone catch MSU?
They look much quicker and athletic than VA tech.
Is Iowa ever going to have a roster of quick,athletic,stone cold ballers?
Have my doubts.
Coon,Coleman and Howard are our only athletes.
I hope the Mc Keever will be able to provide more minutes. FTs killed us. We make half those misses,we cruise to victory. Should not have gone to OT. VT made a lot of hard shots go down. I doubt they shoot like that again.
Ugly game, start to finish. The two teams shot 80 FT's. I've never heard of that happening before.
Three Tech guys had 73 points. 26-46 56.5%
Cam missed two layups in OT. Coleman could have won the game at the end of regulation.
When you get 47 FT's and 16 offensive RB's you should win the game.
Three Tech guys had 73 points. 26-46 56.5%
Cam missed two layups in OT. Coleman could have won the game at the end of regulation.
When you get 47 FT's and 16 offensive RB's you should win the game.
They were super quick can't believe Cam missed those bunnies
You can’t? Cause it’s been a pretty common theme with him
This is ridiculous. I feel sorry for those that couldn't enjoy that game. It's been a long time since we've been able to hang with athletic teams, and have a chance of winning when we played poorly. . How we probably win the game if we would have had our healthy center available all year so he could have been in tune with the team by last night.
This.
I'm ok with seeing that many points being put up and not resorting to slow-ball so much. Seems like the D needs work which is in good hands.
I see all the coaches son bull-sh*t popping up in the forum, which seems misinformed. Could it be he was put in because BM desperately needed the attempt at aggressive D and putting in the alternatives to spell other players just wasn't an option for that yet?
We'll get there. I'm glad we faced a good solid althetic team like that early. Will make those teaching moments easier this week, I would imagine. And, I gotta think Va Tech will be a 'Quad 1' all the way - at least from how they've looked so far.
If this team doesn’t shoot free throws well, it’s not making even an expanded tournament.
The long dribble drives with no help defense was awful.
I agree on Cam. I looked at the box score and see he only played 15 minutes. Hard to squeeze that much poor play into 15 minutes.
I only saw part of the game. Defense seemed to be an issue, and Iowa seems like it needs another athletic quick guard.
Manyawu is not good.
A plodder with no offenseive skills and poor defender on the perimeter.
Tough to watch.
Tavian Banks was the guy Ben should have fought like hell to try and get an extra year.
Alvaro should have came back and got paid if Manyawu is gonna play like garbage like he has and he wasn't even an average player last year... probably the worst 15 minutes of basketball i have seen a player play in a long time, Cam sucked and added absolutely nothing... you could say he was the reason we lost the game!
Could have left off the first sentence and just started with second.
Why be a dick.
agreed, they looked disorganized on both ends of the court and shooting was really bad. Also hope this is not a sign of things to come this year.
I agree he has history of missing easy shots at 6'9 and has appears his head is not in the game about half of the time. Not a fan of his.You can’t? Cause it’s been a pretty common theme with him
Ben said there'd be ups and downs this season. We lost Bennett, Banks, and Alvaro. ESPN said to, "Check back next year." We watched this team play real competition last night, and they lost. That's it. I'm not mentioning the troubles we had. That would be superfluous. I'll keep watching and hope for the best. Plenty of games left. Let's see what Ben comes up with.
my only concerns:
1. what was the deal with the 5 position? Start with manyawu then to jirak before mckeever. then to sit for such long stretches. The most surprising thing last night was jirak not starting OT with the way patterns went.
2. Peyton playing the minutes he played. In two years of watching his dad I have never seen him play someone so long that was playing that bad.
I have 0 concerns they will figure out the defense and defensive rotations, that comes with more playing time as a group. I am very concerned with peyton taking minutes from combs and coleman (or even coon).
1. what was the deal with the 5 position? Start with manyawu then to jirak before mckeever. then to sit for such long stretches. The most surprising thing last night was jirak not starting OT with the way patterns went.
2. Peyton playing the minutes he played. In two years of watching his dad I have never seen him play someone so long that was playing that bad.
I have 0 concerns they will figure out the defense and defensive rotations, that comes with more playing time as a group. I am very concerned with peyton taking minutes from combs and coleman (or even coon).
Iowa should not have lost that game, but a game like that probably helps the Hawks moving forward.
^^^ This.
Honestly, I saw nothing that was particularly surprising last night. Disappointed we couldn't pull out the win.
Also, fans need to get used to the idea that our coach is going to do unconventional things, whether it's calling a timeout right after we've seized the momentum, playing out-of-the-box lineup combinations, or any number of moves that make you tilt your head and squint. This is who we hired. If this is something that's going to bother you, you may want to invest in a stress ball for the entirety of the McCollum era, because it's not likely to change.
Do like me. Sit back, relax with a good cup of coffee, and chill to some Gregg Karukas.
Ben is working on this.
You know, college basketball is just like the NBA now with NIL. The best players go where the bag is. Don't know if we can land the "Man" Daughtry. Might be a stretch at this point, but I'm sure there are other quality PG's out there that Ben is laser-focused on. On the defensive side, Ben said post-game that the bigs didn't move and pick up the dribbler in the lane on those dribble drives. That will be rectified. I'm confident in that.I'm really hoping this doesn't turn into another coach favoring his less talented kid dynamic. Don't Ben, just don't!
Haven't checked his minutes, but I don't think it's counterproductive right now. Might be wrong, and if so, correct me on this.
Coleman did tweak his ankle so I'm going with the scenario he was done for the rest of the game but was forced back into action because Peyton was playing so bad. I'm choosing to believe this, makes me feel better.
He wasn’t wrong. Toughen up, Message Boards are serious business. LOL.
They shouldnt have lost that game. Ben almost said so in his post game conference and pulled it back. I never second guess a coach’s decisions, but I was scratching my head over the rotation last night.
Cam did not play well.
But calling him a plodder is one of the dumbest things I've seen on here in a while.
Super nimble feet. Great perimeter defender for a big. What are you watching?
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