Not quite over it -Zion comment in locker room

GabeM1234

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I read an article mentioning that Zion told a reporter that there were other options on the last play. Its clear he is assuming himself as an option. I do recall Zion touching the ball then passing it up to R.J......
 

LetsGoDuke301

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I read an article mentioning that Zion told a reporter that there were other options on the last play. Its clear he is assuming himself as an option. I do recall Zion touching the ball then passing it up to R.J......
He should be cut from the team.
 

AlanInNJ

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I saw Zion had two defenders in front of him and a clogged lane. RJ was open at the top of the circle with some space. Zion deferred to an alpha scorer in a better position. RJ got into the lane and missed a tough shot thru contact, one BTW that he has made many, many times this year. It didn't go down, and neither did the first foul shot. Based on the way the game was going I would have preferred to see Zion take his chances taking the ball to the basket, but I don't think it was a bad decision.

It is what it is. We put ourselves in a tough situation, and this time it didn't work out in our favor.

1 point from the FF this year, after 2018 being a roll on the rim away from a FF.

Yeah, that sucks.........
 
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We were fortunate to even have that possession. Did RJ short arm the three pointer resulting in an airball - then ball ricocheting off players ending up out of bounds.

Or was RJ's three pointer tipped? If not that was a shocking airball
 

DukiesDohK

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If I was Izzo on the last play I would have let my guys know if Zion appears to be headed to the rack, foul him and foul him hard. The chances he hits the free throws are slim compared to finishing at the rim. I know personally, and possibly same with K in late game situations, Zion getting to the FT line was a bad proposition. I love Zion, but I don't disagree that RJ is likely the better option. Also not a great FT shooter, but Zion was downright bad.
 

lyonhawk

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If I was Izzo on the last play I would have let my guys know if Zion appears to be headed to the rack, foul him and foul him hard. The chances he hits the free throws are slim compared to finishing at the rim. I know personally, and possibly same with K in late game situations, Zion getting to the FT line was a bad proposition. I love Zion, but I don't disagree that RJ is likely the better option. Also not a great FT shooter, but Zion was downright bad.

Zion and RJ were both about the same from the line. Zion was more likely to finish through a foul to get an and 1 though.
 

Hurley22

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I remember reading something about how much his percentages went up when we were down or tied. He did hit some clutch shots......but there is still no way the last few plays should have gone anywhere but Zion IMO. Doesn't mean he has to take the shot, but he should have at least been the one creating. Still not sure why he handed that ball back to RJ.
 

Jtre

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The way some of you talk he should have been first team all American

Forget about all the no show games he had this year huh

Nothing close to that from me. I'm with whoever has said they would have liked to see Zion with the ball in his hand at the end. I'm a big believer in letting your best player take the last shot, especially when that player borders on being a force of nature.

My post was just to reinforce the statement that Cam Reddish had a knack for hitting big shots late in close games.

My comment would have probably gone unchecked prior to the Virginia Tech game.
 

LouisiAaron

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Jtre

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Considering our shaky free throw shooting - we probably should have ran a play for an open shot

We definitely could have done worse than to try and free up Cam for an open jumper.

No disrespect intended to RJ or Cam, but I just think giving it Zion on either the low block or even a drive would have been the best move.
 

LouisiAaron

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We definitely could have done worse than to try and free up Cam for an open jumper.

No disrespect intended to RJ or Cam, but I just think giving it Zion on either the low block or even a drive would have been the best move.

Zion is definitely the best option. Puzzling that he didn’t take a shot or get a play called for him at the end
 

dukehokie

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Zion is definitely the best option. Puzzling that he didn’t take a shot or get a play called for him at the end

The only I don’t think he got a shot those final 2 minutes was because of the triple teaming he was facing. Even Cam’s man was leaving him. Those two minutes were just a product of K resorting to the 5 out during end game situations. That was his flaw with this team. Not development, not lack of a half court offense. This team could not run that 5 out efficiently once teams caught on.

Also 4 points in transition for a transition team is not acceptable. We needed to run and we didn’t.
 

LouisiAaron

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The only I don’t think he got a shot those final 2 minutes was because of the triple teaming he was facing. Even Cam’s man was leaving him. Those two minutes were just a product of K resorting to the 5 out during end game situations. That was his flaw with this team. Not development, not lack of a half court offense. This team could not run that 5 out efficiently once teams caught on.

Also 4 points in transition for a transition team is not acceptable. We needed to run and we didn’t.

We turned the ball over more than usual and Michigan state was rather careful with the ball. Which is uncharacteristic of them. That spinning no look shot is the shot that beat us. No way that shot should’ve went in.

Idk why he tried to run a 5 out offense with centers that can’t do anything with the ball outside of 5 feet. Now if Jack would’ve been his pre conference self then we would’ve been good. His regression really hurt us.
 

Jtre

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We turned the ball over more than usual and Michigan state was rather careful with the ball. Which is uncharacteristic of them. That spinning no look shot is the shot that beat us. No way that shot should’ve went in.

I said the same thing to my wife when that shot dropped. It was the same feeling I had at the end of the first half against Arizona in 2011. Certain times you can just tell when a shot falls how the game is going to end.
 

dukehokie

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We turned the ball over more than usual and Michigan state was rather careful with the ball. Which is uncharacteristic of them. That spinning no look shot is the shot that beat us. No way that shot should’ve went in.

Idk why he tried to run a 5 out offense with centers that can’t do anything with the ball outside of 5 feet. Now if Jack would’ve been his pre conference self then we would’ve been good. His regression really hurt us.

Absolutely. Between his regression and Cam’s whatever happened, that 5 out was doomed.

That’s a part of recruiting though. Who would’ve thought a kid had 2-50 point games his senior season would have such a woeful offensive year? The funny thing is, Cam’s knock was inconsistency on D. He flourished there.
 

Kingbluedevil

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I think I would have ran the play for Cam. If I was K drawing up the play knowing not one of these five could make two foul shots in a row we take a quick shot and everybody go for the tip. The reason I pick Cam is he was pretty much a no show and he was due to make one. I would make Barrett throw the ball in so he would have to make a pass.
 

VaBlueDevil33

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“In the last five minutes of games within five points this year, Reddish is 6-of-11 beyond the arc, knocking down key shots against Louisville, Florida State and Texas Tech during the regular season.”

https://www.dukechronicle.com/artic...-ucf-florida-state-louisville-clutch-shooting

You’re a fake fan. Go sit down somewhere. At least act like you know what’s going on.

Fake fan my *** you moron...I watched every game this year and cam was a huge disappointment and no way on earth do I want him taking the shot that could end our season....id rather a guy that brought it every game take the shot....which he did....not an overhyped player

Take that garbage somewhere else clown
 
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LouisiAaron

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Fake fan my *** you moron...I watched every game this year and cam was a huge disappointment and no way on earth do I want him taking the shot that could end our season....id rather a guy that brought it every game take the shot....which he did....not an overhyped player

Take that garbage somewhere else clown

You sound stupid as hell. I gave you the stats in black and white, you duck. He's a high percentage shooter in clutch moments. We aren't talking about the whole game. Stay focused, clown.
 

VaBlueDevil33

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You sound stupid as hell. I gave you the stats in black and white, you duck. He's a high percentage shooter in clutch moments. We aren't talking about the whole game. Stay focused, clown.

I saw the entire year...he hit a few shots big deal...you can take those stats and shove them...I still don't want that overhyped recruit taking the last shot....now GTFO with your stupid stuff
 
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BOOGIEMAN1914

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cam reddish averaged 14ppg 4reb 2ast 2stl 1blk per game as the third/fourth option and played very good defense overall....he is a shooter that needs to shoot.....Kennard seemed like he couldnt make a 3pter his 1st year....Cam hit some clutch 3's this season.....just my cam reddish support moment...=)
 
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Liftee

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The last play worked. We got 2 foul shots. How can we say any other play would not have resulted in a foul as well? You think Izzo didn't know the 2 most likely shooters were poor foul shooters?

Cam ran the same curl he ran vs. Fl. State. Mich. State saw it coming and the throw in was from deeper to the side not under the basket.

Maybe Zion was exhausted and knew he didn't have the bounce he needed to beat the usual 3 defenders.

But the play worked and we have the benefit of 5 days to analyze why it didn't work better. The problem was not with the last play, it was with the turnovers, and lack of causing them.
 

LetsGoDuke301

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The problem was not with the last play, it was with the turnovers, and lack of causing them.
Bingo. Zero transition points killed us as well. Why we want to sit here and insult each other over how the last play went is beyond me. Should have never been in that situation.
 

Mpm277

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Don't put me in with the camp that says K is washed up and should retire - that's not at all where I'm at.

But I do think we had a player that college basketball may likely have never had and may likely never have again and Duke didn't use him properly all year. He should have got the ball significantly more than he did. Instead, we gave a team of players that can't shoot, are seemingly encouraged to shoot, and Zion is left fighting for his possessions from rebounds/put backs and fast breaks.