Not so good for Charlie Hustle

[Beavis606]

He hasn't made millions per year, the guy is pretty much broke.

Says who? Not the wall street journal or cincinnati enquirer.Not his business manager.But you guys keep trying, maybe you'll get something right about Pete before the thread ends.

The Wall Street Journal says Pete makes more than $1 million per year being Pete with signatures and hand shakes and a quick photo. He made more than $3 million in 2007. "I don't like to get into the specifics," said Joie Casey, president of Hit King Inc., which manages Rose's autograph business. "I can tell you he is doing really, really well."

Sorry, Casey, you're a dumbass. ktbug says Pete's broke.

Pete keeps hustling

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

Not sure I understand the context of your 'nothing has changed' remark. Do you mean it as a comment on teh owners cynically doing whatever it takes to make money? Or are you saying steroids and other PEDs are being used as much today as ever, and that the reason you don't see guys like Brady Anderson hitting 50 home runs or guys like Barry Bonds hitting 73 has more to do with improved pitching?

The former...

 

[AlbanyWildCat]

Okay. Thanks for the clarification. I don't disagree, but to me personally it is irrelevant. It doesn't absolve the players of the steroid era of responsibility for corrupting the game and defiling the record book any more than Charles Comiskey's mendacity and the Reserve Clause of 1879 absolves the Black Sox players of cheating.

But baseball has been littered with many folks in the HOF that accused of corrupting the game. Even Hank Aaron took greenies. A whole generation took them and inflated the record books.

Splitting hairs on performance enhancing drugs is silly IMO. Most of the championships in the late 1990's and 2000's were by teams who had players taking steriods or other performance enhancing drugs.

Better to keep them in the record books and HOF so it is never forgotten. The players took them and the entire industry (players, to managers, to owners, to MLB, to TV to sports writers) all benefited from it.

 

[Bill@ModernThirst]

If his numbers were inflated by taking speed, it was marginal. He didn't take a fist full of Greenies and go from being a banjo hitter like Sammy Sosa whose numbers in 1992 were .260 with 8 home runs and 25 RBIs, to hitting 66 home runs six years later. That's a sick joke lodged in baseball's record book.

Well you also chose a year he only played 67 games and was injured to compare with 1998, which is weird, but Sosa isn't going into the HoF any time soon regardless.

 

[drawing_dead]

i am sad to say this, but the death spiral of MLB baseball and the whole charade surrounding it is entertaining to watch; certainly more than the game itself.
i grew up a Red's fan and played/loved baseball for many years, but not now. MLB baseball is an old antique that you keep around just to show your friends how cool you think you are.

with technology being what it is today, anonymity of the internet and all, do we really think that NO other players since Pete have bet on baseball??? talk about naive...

 

[Beavis606]

There is no need for anyone involved in the game to bet on games anymore. They all make eleventy billion dollars a year. Why jeopardize that? Betting on baseball was rampant in the 1910s and 1920s because players made zero to play. Pete bet because he was just a degenerate.

--The league minimum is $507,000
--Average salary is $4 million (twice NFL average) and is all guaranteed.
--MLB gross revenues reached a record $9 billion last year.

So, yeah, MLB is in a death spiral and is just an old antique.

As an aside, I'm getting tired of smacking you guys around who are talking out of your *** about something you clearly know nothing about. Step it up.

 

[ukalum01]

i am sad to say this, but the death spiral of MLB baseball....

False.

 

[RacerX.ksr]

Where does the letter of the law state that in addition to a permanent ban, the player's prior achievements are also banned from recognition?

 

[Beavis606]

Where does the letter of the law state that in addition to a permanent ban, the player's prior achievements are also banned from recognition?

If you mean HOF eligibility, click here and scroll down to 3E. I guess that's what you mean, because all of his statistical records still stand.

 

[RacerX.ksr]

Was just giving you a question no one had asked yet.

 

[krazykats]

The idea of no betting in baseball was because Arnold Roghstein fixed the WS. The rule wasn't designed originally to ban betting, however it changed because like has been mentioned players then bet and books caught on to player bets and vegas got pissed.

Also like was mentioned Pete was a degenerate! A lot of players bet but not like him.......Jordan was in the same boat but he respected his legacy and the game and stepped aside. Pete didn't, he thought he was too big to be stopped.

So F him, great player, ok manager, terrible person. He knew the consequences which is why he denied until it was obvious what he did and even then his publicist convinced him it was his only shot to make the HOF as a player alive. He didn't want to admit to anything. He'll be was still gambling!!!

There were odds before the interview whether he'd come clean and the son of a ***** bet on himself!