No but last years OSU team wasn’t as good, last years OSU team was over looking us... look no further than Urbs talking about how hard NU is to scheme for... the struggles with seeing our offense for the first time, and don’t kid yourself we lost a lot when we lost Stanley Morgan, plus I’m sorry but football is never as easy as looking at last year and trying to predict this year especially in collage football, too much change over in players
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No but last years OSU team wasn’t as good, last years OSU team was over looking us... look no further than Urbs talking about how hard NU is to scheme for... the struggles with seeing our offense for the first time, and don’t kid yourself we lost a lot when we lost Stanley Morgan, plus I’m sorry but football is never as easy as looking at last year and trying to predict this year especially in collage football, too much change over in players
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This team barely beat the worst team in the B1G last week. The evidence suggests that we are one of the worst teams in the conference.
Seems you might be. Gonna drop a N bomb on me next? You must be one of the card carrying Cletii, aintcha?
We looked like we belonged last year and today we were nowhere near the same class as them. Did they improve that much more than we did. It's disappointing because I kept hearing how we were supposed to see a lot of improvement from year one to two. I will keep hoping for improvement and cheer them on forever.
they have a qb that can kill you 2 ways this year, and last year I think they were over looking us a bit...plus wasn't there some urban fiasco going on?
Oh snap! Being a drunk don't make you a fan, bud. Hope you get your life turned around.
Agreed this is super disappointing because yes we heard it all through the off season and honestly I was starting to buy into it, I knew I shouldn’t have but none the less I did... but like I said before year to year in college football is almost completely in related, just too much turnover with players... I think OSU definitely improved that much with Fields, and I don’t know about anyone else seen but that D they put on the field had every bit of the speed that our offense had... that d was much much faster then last year
True but that QB didn't hold us to 10 passing yards in the first half. Adrian had a very good game last year and admitted in the press conference that he and the offense executed better last year.
Frost needs better assistants. After years of “Clemsoning” Dabo canned his assistants and paid top dollar for better ones.
Our quarterback is without question far worse than he was as a true freshman.
Our o-line looks as though they’ve never even played the position before and Jurgens is the only one that has that excuse.
Our defense is still out of position and can’t tackle.
Our team is still getting pushed around because they aren’t strong enough.
There is a very obvious talent gap between Nebraska and Ohio State, but the biggest concern is the coaching gap.
Good coaching would have kept this game within a couple scores, but instead, this team was outcoached in just about every facet and blown out of the water.
Good coaching goes way beyond play calling on offense and defense. Good coaching is teaching the players proper fundamentals, proper footwork, proper handwork, how to get properly aligned, how to take proper angles, how to properly tackle, how to shed blocks, how to maintain blocks, knowing their assignments, etc.
Wisconsin isn’t signing top-five classes, yet year after year they field a very high-quality defense and a very high-quality offensive line. That’s called player development and coaching. Now take player development and coaching and combine it with top talent and that’s how you get championship teams.
Nebraska doesn’t have the talent, but more importantly, it doesn’t have the coaching. So it falls on Frost to go out and get the coaching to achieve that.
Ryan Day canned a bunch of coaches and hired better ones.
Lincoln Riley canned a bunch of coaches and hired better ones.
Dabo Swinney canned a bunch of coaches and hired better ones.
Scott Frost NEEDS to can a bunch of coaches and hire better ones.
Our quarterback is without question far worse than he was as a true freshman.
Our o-line looks as though they’ve never even played the position before and Jurgens is the only one that has that excuse.
Our defense is still out of position and can’t tackle.
Our team is still getting pushed around because they aren’t strong enough.
There is a very obvious talent gap between Nebraska and Ohio State, but the biggest concern is the coaching gap.
Good coaching would have kept this game within a couple scores, but instead, this team was outcoached in just about every facet and blown out of the water.
Good coaching goes way beyond play calling on offense and defense. Good coaching is teaching the players proper fundamentals, proper footwork, proper handwork, how to get properly aligned, how to take proper angles, how to properly tackle, how to shed blocks, how to maintain blocks, knowing their assignments, etc.
Wisconsin isn’t signing top-five classes, yet year after year they field a very high-quality defense and a very high-quality offensive line. That’s called player development and coaching. Now take player development and coaching and combine it with top talent and that’s how you get championship teams.
Nebraska doesn’t have the talent, but more importantly, it doesn’t have the coaching. So it falls on Frost to go out and get the coaching to achieve that.
Ryan Day canned a bunch of coaches and hired better ones.
Lincoln Riley canned a bunch of coaches and hired better ones.
Dabo Swinney canned a bunch of coaches and hired better ones.
Scott Frost NEEDS to can a bunch of coaches and hire better ones.
I think they are very good but I thought Wisconsin was in that same class after dominating Michigan. Today's game against NW showed that they are not quite that good.
I hate to can coaches after 2 years but much of what you said makes sense. Coaching and discipline play nearly as big of a role in the outcome of a game as talent. Note the way that the Service Academies compete with schools with football scholarships and many future NFL players despite not providing football scholarships and having a commitment to serve their country after completing their college.
No reason? How about we probably had a better team last year. Ohio State would certainly say so.
Simple Ohio st didn’t care last year no game day, plus there health instead of beat up. Number 2 after farmer was moved to center we were a way better offensive line than we are now, looking back they could have won a couple more games last year by having farmer at center to start the season, Conrad wasn’t good
I will say if Adrian continues to struggle reading zone defense and btw that’s what he’s going to see the rest of the season, when OSU went man that’s when Adrian is at his best. Luke might just be the starter next year. I was surprised Adrian wasn’t benched like last years Michigan game
The best teams I've seen this year are Alabama, Ohio St and Oklahoma (at least offensively). I need to see more of LSU and Clemson's OL and DL are suspect (and Lawrence looks like he's regressed as a passer), but Clemson still has a ton of skill talent. Wisky will put up a tough battle with OSU but OSU has too much talent.
I would kind of like to see Luke this year, at least in mop-up time or when we are losing by 48. I think the coaches are thinking long term with some players and want to red-shirt as much as possible, even if it could help the present team.
What coach (Osborne, Saban, Parcells, Belichick) would have been able to take this Nebraska team to a victory aginst that OSU team? No matter who it was, the result would have been similar.
Really thought he would seat 2AM for at least a series and put in Vedral..
As much as I want to see Luke McCaffery, Vedral is still #2.
Someone asked me why kst can do pretty decent this year with a new coach and Nebraska struggles two years. Imo the biggest difference is bill Snyder’s teams were well disciplined knowing there assignments no stupid penalties but coach frost inherited a bunch of misfits foul up don’t give a crap kids. Yes there’s a few like jd and kudos to Lamar. But you even look at Barry he freelance way to much and is out of place lots of time. I know a lot of you will hammer me on this but they need to do like the 95 team and everyone get the military haircut, now that team unity. I will add I think Nebraska strength and conditioning needs to visit Clemson or Alabama in the off season because what there doing isn’t working for the big 10
Grow up...it took some time to destroy the program it's going to take some time to build it back. Dickweeds expecting immediate results...unbelievable.
Nobody is expecting championships right now. You can still lose a game and look like a well coached and prepared football team. I said the same under Riley.
There haven’t been many games under Frost that wasn’t a **** show.....even the wins. This staff is not going to simply be able to out score teams like they did in the AAC. Until the little thing are corrected....like not getting a special teams penalty every time they are on the field...this team will look more like Indiana than Ohio St.
Anybody want to project a 2-deep, next year?
Is there any "hope" this gets better given our current personnel and redshirts?
We need more DE with size and some pass rushing ability. Our OLB are not good. OL recruiting has been ok. Our WR are shrimps.
This doesn't get better until it looks like it is getting better, and frankly, Frost is still in Year 1 with regard to depth. We graduate some DL, who is going to take over there? Where are the OLB?
If I were Frost I'd hit the attrition switch again and just reload until it looks like we have some sort of Fresh/Soph class that can compete. Otherwise, we're screwed.
We lost probably the best player on our O line and he played center. I've been tooting that horn since last spring. CENTER is darned near as important as your QB and we're struggling there. We also lost Stanley Morgan who wasn't a first round pick BUT he was a good WR who always seemed to get open. Our WRs last night couldn't get open to save their life. On the flip side, Fields is a game changer. Very talented QB and he can't move on to the NFL soon enough. He's way better than what they had last year.
IMO, the other HUGE factor in OSU's dominance is that they got rid of Urban. If you go back and look at their year last year, OSU played MUCH better when Urban was suspended. There was some talk from former OSU players that Urban got tight and he mucked up the offensive play calling. It was no coincidence that they pushed him out and named Day head coach immediately. We'll see if Day can sustain it but IMO he's a better game day head coach than Urban. The NFL is going to come calling for Day but I suspect he'll be an OSU lifer. Him becoming a head coach IMO makes the B1G a much tougher place to be.
I hate getting crushed, hate MR, BP, SF, HP, we suck, etc...but really liked seeing some of the old formations again- not just the ""I". Was it "Diamond"? ...when we have 2-3 all-conference OL and 2-3 NFL OL, could be really difficult to stop (assuming good QB play).
That having been said, TO screwed us, we won't make a bowl, refs suck, and ESPN hates us.
Because they get Top 5 recruiting classes every year. Our recruting classes are usually in the 20-30 range. Until we get Top 10 talent on a consistent basis, this offense isn't going to dominate the Big Ten.
The whole class doesn't have to be top 5 guys. You just have to find enough Tommie Fraziers and LaVonte Davids to make a difference. You take Fields and that DE off that OSU team last night and it would have been a ball game IMO. We need to build our O and D lines then find a few difference makers. Right now our O line is killing us. They're making it really tough on AMart. It isn't his fault.
We're never going to be able to consistently land top 10 classes. You just have to have enough top 10 kind of guys in the 4 years to field a top 5 team. Tom proved you could do it.
I should have added that then those difference maker guys have to stay healthy. We have no margin for injuries because we won't be as deep as teams like OSU. Washington going out with an injury multiplied our woes last night. Hopefully he's able to play this week.
Well, I'll have to disagree somewhat sir. True, just as you mention, injuries to key players stings badly to be sure "but" I remember TO's Huskers many times won important games with some of our best players (including qbs) injured.
I think brutal animals on both lines helps a lot. Of course, I know that you know that. But "now" not having anything even remotely close to dominating lines has injuries hurting very badly indeed.