Note on NCAA seeding info

[GregPickel]

Seeding info will be released for the NCAA Tournament at 8 pm Wednesday night. The live stream will be broadcast here: NCAA.com

 

[Charles Brown]

Steen did not get an at large as expected

 

[Sunshinedynomite 1]

Steen did not get an at large as expected

Lee is lucky- steen has his number.

 

[psykim]

curious how Levi Haines who just beat the #1 ranked wrestler gets seeded. He is so talented and sure performs well in clutch moments!!

 

[GregPickel]

 

[NormanChad]

curious how Levi Haines who just beat the #1 ranked wrestler gets seeded. He is so talented and sure performs well in clutch moments!!

Intermat Rankings have O’Connor from UNC #1, Haines #2, and Robb #3. Be interesting if the seeding follows the rankings.

 

[clucas11]

We'll know soon enough..Josh Humphreys from Lehigh is undefeated. Andonian will be a tough out as well.

 

[GregPickel]

Intermat Rankings have O’Connor from UNC #1, Haines #2, and Robb #3. Be interesting if the seeding follows the rankings.

Yeah, they and WIN Magazine are a bit far off in some weight classes. 157 is one of them. We'll see which one ends up being closer to reality tonight.

 

[razpsu]

Steen did not get an at large as expected

As expected?

 

[El_Jefe]

Intermat Rankings have O’Connor from UNC #1, Haines #2, and Robb #3. Be interesting if the seeding follows the rankings.

Those aren't the rankings that count -- the coaches' poll is the one used toward seeding criteria.

Final coaches poll not yet released. Last one had Levi 8. I would be surprised if he leapfrogged an unbeaten Humphreys (4th last week) with the coaches.

Levi will be in the 2-4 range. 2 or 3 doesn't matter, just avoid O'Connor for as long as possible.

 

[WV lion]

Those aren't the rankings that count -- the coaches' poll is the one used toward seeding criteria.

Final coaches poll not yet released. Last one had Levi 8. I would be surprised if he leapfrogged an unbeaten Humphreys (4th last week) with the coaches.

Levi will be in the 2-4 range. 2 or 3 doesn't matter, just avoid O'Connor for as long as possible.

Like to see O'Connor 1 and Robb 4. I think Levi matches up well with Humphries. Andonian 5 would be a bonus.

 

[El_Jefe]

Refresher on the seeding process:

NCAA uses 7 categories, weighted for a max score of 100:
- H2H (25)
- Quality Wins (20) **
- Coaches Rank (15)
- Conference Finish (10)
- Common Opponents (10)
- Win % (10)
- RPI (10)

** QW is wins over national qualifiers. BUT this isn't # wins -- includes a strength of schedule factor. Example: beating Cass > beating Orndorff.

Seeds are determined via a simulated 33-man round robin, with each sim match scored using these criteria. The wrestler who goes 32-0 in sim matches gets the 1. 31-1 gets the 2. Etc.

Without having the final coaches poll or RPI yet: O'Connor will be the 1, after that get out the Magic 8 ball.

Levi might lose the sim match to Franek due to Common Opponent and/or Quality Wins. Franek lost to Robb but beat Zerban 3x.

But Franek likely loses the sim match to Robb, thanks to H2H.

Humphreys is ineligible for an RPI (too few matches), so his seed vs. Levi's will likely come down to the coaches poll.

Etc.

Heads hurt yet?

 

[El_Jefe]

BTW, don't be surprised if Brooks gets the 3 seed.

Aaron is ineligible for an RPI -- too few matches. So he loses 10 sIm pts to both Keckeisen and Hidlay. And he loses the Win % category to both -- all 3 have 1 loss, but Aaron has the fewest matches.

He also loses Common Opponents to Keckeisen (Coleman). Ties Hidlay in this category.

Aaron will be the Coaches 1. The committee could (and should) overrule the sim and make him the 1 ... but that doesn't mean they will.

 

[Ironman2]

curious how Levi Haines who just beat the #1 ranked wrestler gets seeded. He is so talented and sure performs well in clutch moments!!

Biglerville taught him well. Although I know someone who went to school with him, and he states Levi didn't wrestle high school his senior year. Traveled around and wrestled.

 

[WV lion]

BTW, don't be surprised if Brooks gets the 3 seed.

Aaron is ineligible for an RPI -- too few matches. So he loses 10 sIm pts to both Keckeisen and Hidlay. And he loses the Win % category to both -- all 3 have 1 loss, but Aaron has the fewest matches.

He also loses Common Opponents to Keckeisen (Coleman). Ties Hidlay in this category.

Aaron will be the Coaches 1. The committee could (and should) overrule the sim and make him the 1 ... but that doesn't mean they will.

There are quite a few top 10 guys that don't qualify for rpi. Could be some interesting seeds.

 

[Tryingtodoitright]

Not sure where this falls into place so forgive the switching gears. Early predictions.
Prior to the seeds released I’m going to guess three champs (RBY Cstar Aaron) a second (Kerkvliet) a third (Levi) a fourth (Dean) and two other AAs.

 

[El_Jefe]

There are quite a few top 10 guys that don't qualify for rpi. Could be some interesting seeds.

Andonian too.

 

[SRATH]

Biglerville taught him well. Although I know someone who went to school with him, and he states Levi didn't wrestle high school his senior year. Traveled around and wrestled.

I believe he spent most of the year at David Taylor's M2 Club in State College

 

[El_Jefe]

Biglerville taught him well. Although I know someone who went to school with him, and he states Levi didn't wrestle high school his senior year. Traveled around and wrestled.

Levi spent his HS SR year at NLWC + M2.

Like the Lee brothers did, and Kasak is doing now.

 

[Spinpsu]

Seeding show on now.

 

[GregPickel]

RBY is 1 as expected at 133

 

[GregPickel]

Beau Bartlett is No. 6 at 141. Keeps him off top seed Real Woods’ side of the bracket until a potential finals matchup.

 

[GregPickel]

Shayne Van Ness is No. 13 at 149. Sees Johnny Lovett of CMU first, the 20 seed.

 

[GregPickel]

Levi Haines is No. 2 at 157.

 

[GregPickel]

Alex Facundo is No. 13 at 165.

 

[KJB32812]

Wow, Brooks is, in fact, a 3 seed.

 

[Brantt]

Laughable on every level

 

[PSU_04]

Dean’s 2nd round matchup is something too

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Carter Starocci is the #1 seed @ 174:

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Aaron Brooks is the #3 seed @ 184:

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Max Dean is the #9 seed @ 197:

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Greg Kirkvliet is the #3 seed @ 285:

 

[Tom McAndrew]

@133, if they wrestle to seed, #1 RBY's opponents would be:

R1 - the winner of the pigtail match (#32 seed Jack Malda (American) vs. #33 seed McGwire Midkiff (N. Dakota St.)
R2 - #16 seed Kyle Biscoglia (U. Northern Iowa)
R3 (Quarters) - #8 seed Aaron Nagao (Minny)
R4 (Semis) - #4 seed Michael McGee (ASU)
R5 (Final) - #2 seed Daton Fix (Okla. St.)

 

[Tom McAndrew]

@141, if they wrestle to seed, #6 seed Bartlett's path would be:

R1 - #27 seed Shannon Hanna (Campbell)
R2 - #11 seed Clay Carlson (S. Dakota St.)
R3 (Quarters) - #3 seed Cole Matthews (Pitt)
R4 (Semis) - #2 seed Andrew Alirez (U. of Northern Colorado)
R5 (Final) - #1 seed Real Woods (Iowa)

 

[Tom McAndrew]

@149, if they wrestle to seed, #13 seed Van Ness's path would be:

R1 - #20 seed Johnny Lovett (CMU)
R2 - #4 seed Caleb Henson (VT)
R3 (Quarters) - #5 seed Paniro Johnson (Iowa Șt.)
R4 (Semis) - #1 seed Yianni Diakomihalis (Cornell)
R5 (Final) - #2 seed Sammy Sasso (Ohio St.)

 

[Tom McAndrew]

@157, if they wrestle to seed, #2 seed Haines's path would be:

R1 - #31 seed Ashton Eyler (Lock Haven)
R2 - #15 seed Jacob Wright (Wyoming)
R3 (Quarters) - #7 seed Bryce Andonian (VT)
R4 (Semis) - #3 seed Peyton Robb (Nebraska)
R5 (Final) - #1 seed Austin O'Connor (UNC)

 

[psbc19]

@157, if they wrestle to seed, Haines's path would be:

R1 - #31 seed Ashton Eyler (Lock Haven)
R2 - #15 seed Jacob Wright (Wyoming)
R3 (Quarters) - #7 seed Bryce Andonian (VT)
R4 (Semis) - #3 seed Peyton Robb (Nebraska)
R5 (Finals) - #1 seed Austin O'Connor (UNC)

Thats brutal. Gonna make him earn it

 

[Tom McAndrew]

@165, if they wrestle to seed, #13 seed Facundo's path would be:

R1 - #20 seed Holden Heller (Pitt)
R2 - #4 seed Julian Ramirez (Cornell)
R3 (Quarters) - #5 seed Quincy Monday (Princeton)
R4 (Semis) - #1 seed David Carr (Iowa St.)
R5 (Final) - #2 seed Keegan O'Toole (Missouri)

 

[NormanChad]

Brooks and Dean seeds are a joke.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

@174, if they wrestle to seed, #1 seed Starocci's path would be:

R1 - the winner of the pigtail match (#32 seed Will Miller (App. St.) vs. #33 seed John Worthing (Clarion)
R2 - #16 seed Sam Wolf (Air Force)
R3 (Quarters) - #8 seed Bailee O'Reilly (Minny)
R4 (Semis) - #4 seed Chris Foca (Cornell)
R5 (Final) - #2 seed Mikey Labriola (Nebraska)