NU offer gives QB Jack Lausch a decision to make

techtim72

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I just can’t get over the fact we are competing with a PWO for a kid at QB. Seriously?

That would make a very good counterpoint for say a recruiting column on The Athletic. "Alabama lands five star while Northwestern is in cage match for PWO."
 

wildcatpn

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I just can’t get over the fact we are competing with a PWO for a kid at QB. Seriously?
Imagine what Michigan State fans were saying when we were battling them for Spivak as a PWO while they had offered a scholly. They must’ve been horrified.
 

mountaindrew

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An even better way would be that we’re competing for the Sun-Times player of the year who seems like a great fit.

Yes Sir. Lausch is exhibit A for "2 Star" players, according to the brilliant Rivals evaluating team, who aren't. Not when I look at his film, anyway.

Lets see - Sherrick McManis, Montre Hartage, Drake Dunsmore, Jeremy Ebert, some goof named Tyrell Sutton.... God forbid we should ever even consider a freakin Rivals 2 Star player, because everybody knows that any Rivals 2 Star player could never get off the bench in the Big Ten.
 
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RhabdoWildcat

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Imagine what Michigan State fans were saying when we were battling them for Spivak as a PWO while they had offered a scholly. They must’ve been horrified.
I’m all for bringing him on as a QB. But if a decision between a scholarship QB at NU and the Big Ten or PWO at another school is a hard decision, that speaks volumes about the program…especially at QB.
 

wildcatpn

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I’m all for bringing him on as a QB. But if a decision between a scholarship QB at NU and the Big Ten or PWO at another school is a hard decision, that speaks volumes about the program…especially at QB.
He was offered extremely late in the game by NU and baseball plays a big role in his decision.
 

wildcatpn

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Does NU field a baseball team?
He’s been committed to ND baseball for a long time. I’m sure there are discussions about baseball at NU. Because of baseball this isn’t a decision that’s just made overnight. Not very hard to understand.
 

EvanstonCat

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I become dismayed by a number of posters who claim to be fans demanding the best of the program but seem gleeful when we lose games, play badly, lose recruits, or want to see our players leave early through transfer or the draft. Conversely, Corbi appears to revel in our victories and suffer at our losses, all the while defending the academic standards, personal values, and competitive efforts of Northwestern.
And the there are the majority of us who are fans demanding the best of the program but revel in our victories and suffer at our losses, all the while defending the academic standards, personal values, but not at the expense of the competitive efforts of Northwestern.
 

Bobb114

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If Lausch comes to NU and starts at QB, he will be the second QB from Brother Rice to do so. The first being Tom O’Grady who started as a sophomore during the entire 1961 season. He spent the rest of his career sitting on the bench after Tom Myers arrived in 1962.
 
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I’m all for bringing him on as a QB. But if a decision between a scholarship QB at NU and the Big Ten or PWO at another school is a hard decision, that speaks volumes about the program…especially at QB.
Maybe. Maybe not for a southsider from a Catholic school who has been a lifelong ND fan. Playing for them has likely been a lifelong dream.
 

CatManTrue

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I’m all for bringing him on as a QB. But if a decision between a scholarship QB at NU and the Big Ten or PWO at another school is a hard decision, that speaks volumes about the program…especially at QB.
Wasn’t there a 3 star linebacker who chose a PWO at NU over a scholarship from Iowa a couple of years ago? In addition to Spivak choosing a PWO over MSU?

This young man has two very intriguing options and looks like an underrated gamer to me. Come to Evanston, Brother Lausch!

(Although I am curious why that young LB and others didn’t play more in 2021 as the season progressed…)
 

mountaindrew

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Wasn’t there a 3 star linebacker who chose a PWO at NU over a scholarship from Iowa a couple of years ago? In addition to Spivak choosing a PWO over MSU?

This young man has two very intriguing options and looks like an underrated gamer to me. Come to Evanston, Brother Lausch!

(Although I am curious why that young LB and others didn’t play more in 2021 as the season progressed…)

Yup. Greyson Metz, from Glenbard West. Had Iowa and a couple other big offers. We're all curious why Metz and all the other back up LBs didn't get reps on defense. At least against Illinois, once Fitz FINALLY allowed the 2s to play in the 4th Q, it was Metz and Troy Hudetz who got out there, along with Mueller, who had gotten occasional reps earlier in the season.
 

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I’m sure ND is using the example of guys like Smardjiza and Kmet who starred in both sports there. There have been a couple examples at NU — anybody remember the names? I hope Fitz and Spencer Allen are both in on the pitch. Seems like a great kid who would be a tremendous asset to the program.
 

corbi2961

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I’m sure ND is using the example of guys like Smardjiza and Kmet who starred in both sports there. There have been a couple examples at NU — anybody remember the names? I hope Fitz and Spencer Allen are both in on the pitch. Seems like a great kid who would be a tremendous asset to the program.
Spencer Allen resigned as NU’s baseball coach some time ago.
 

zeek55

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If he succeeds at NU, with the easy transfer rules, he'll walk for ND after a season or two. Why take that risk and embarrassment?
We should always be willing to take that risk, and it's not embarrassing if it plays out that way.

We should always try to grab recruits that the coaches think can develop into players that can help us win games.
Whether it's been their dream to play elsewhere and whether they may leave if they develop well should never enter the equation. Why? Because if they leave for their dream destination, they very likely gave us a good-to-great year or two.

That's all you can ask for in the current era with transfers/NIL and all sorts of other factors now entering the recruiting/transfer equation. We're going to see a lot more players in the future that are only here for a year or two (whether inbound or outbound). Just have to make the most of the time they're here.

It's always worth trying to find the next CT or JJ (or whoever) in terms of skill players that can give us a great 4 years and let us have a great 3-4 year run, but more often than not, you're going to have players on much shorter timeline as starters.
 

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I’m sure ND is using the example of guys like Smardjiza and Kmet who starred in both sports there. There have been a couple examples at NU — anybody remember the names? I hope Fitz and Spencer Allen are both in on the pitch. Seems like a great kid who would be a tremendous asset to the program.
Scott Stranski, an SAE I think, started at QB for the 'Cats while also playing baseball. He was drafted and played baseball after graduation, though I do not know if he made it to the show.
 

Purple Pile Driver

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Arby Fields
I never seen Lausch on the field, but I have seen Arby several times. Arby was not a high round draft pick and was not a MLB prospect. What we hear on Lausch is that he is a legitimate prospect. Now odds of just about any player drafted becoming a MLB player are very low, but if he has a professional sports playing future it is baseball not football. This really isn’t a ND PWO offer versus Full ride from NU. It is baseball versus football.
 

Falcon86

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Yup. Greyson Metz, from Glenbard West. Had Iowa and a couple other big offers. We're all curious why Metz and all the other back up LBs didn't get reps on defense. At least against Illinois, once Fitz FINALLY allowed the 2s to play in the 4th Q, it was Metz and Troy Hudetz who got out there, along with Mueller, who had gotten occasional reps earlier in the season.
Wish Alex Pierce from GW now at Cincy had done the same thing…
 
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NUCat320

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I never seen Lausch on the field, but I have seen Arby several times. Arby was not a high round draft pick and was not a MLB prospect. What we hear on Lausch is that he is a legitimate prospect. Now odds of just about any player drafted becoming a MLB player are very low, but if he has a professional sports playing future it is baseball not football. This really isn’t a ND PWO offer versus Full ride from NU. It is baseball versus football.
Is NU a football-only offer? Would he be expected to quit baseball?

It’s unfair to say he has no football future. Very similar to Kafka, except that Lausch got to pass the ball in high school.

It is fair to say that Lausch is a good MLB prospect today, while he is not an NFL prospect today. (Very few are, of course, because the NFL enlists college to do their player development.

The Sun-Times player of the year article underplayed baseball (makes sense, due to the topic), so I didn’t realize that he’s on draft radars. But he is:


(Being a top ten Midwestern high schooler makes you a possibility in the first three-five rounds.)

That said, if he’s committed to playing college baseball, ND and NU play similar competition, though ND has a better track record of drafted guys.
 

Darren72

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I just can’t get over the fact we are competing with a PWO for a kid at QB. Seriously?
I don’t understand this comment. Are you saying that because his best offer was a PWO, we shouldn’t have pursued him? Or are you incredulous that he didn’t turn down the PWO immediately when we offered? Or are you somewhat impatient that he hasn’t made a decision yet?
 

Fcmchi1

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We should always be willing to take that risk, and it's not embarrassing if it plays out that way.

We should always try to grab recruits that the coaches think can develop into players that can help us win games.
Whether it's been their dream to play elsewhere and whether they may leave if they develop well should never enter the equation. Why? Because if they leave for their dream destination, they very likely gave us a good-to-great year or two.

That's all you can ask for in the current era with transfers/NIL and all sorts of other factors now entering the recruiting/transfer equation. We're going to see a lot more players in the future that are only here for a year or two (whether inbound or outbound). Just have to make the most of the time they're here.

It's always worth trying to find the next CT or JJ (or whoever) in terms of skill players that can give us a great 4 years and let us have a great 3-4 year run, but more often than not, you're going to have players on much shorter timeline as starters.
Zeek55, I like your analysis and if he gives us two good years, can we ask for more?

But I was looking at this from the point of view of the strong attraction ND has on some people. Their desire to attend, play for or be associated with ND is ingrained. They have relatives, friends who were Domers, Double Domers, Triple Domers. ND is their dream destination.

So I wonder if the kid would really be happy and part of the team at NU.

Plus, with our academic reputation NU is already a bit of an odd bird in Power 5 football. I don’t think it’s good for the NU “brand” if we get the reputation of a school that develops players so they can play their best years at another Power 5 school.

Just one long time NU fan’s opinion.
 

DaCat

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Zeek55, I like your analysis and if he gives us two good years, can we ask for more?

But I was looking at this from the point of view of the strong attraction ND has on some people. Their desire to attend, play for or be associated with ND is ingrained. They have relatives, friends who were Domers, Double Domers, Triple Domers. ND is their dream destination.

So I wonder if the kid would really be happy and part of the team at NU.

Plus, with our academic reputation NU is already a bit of an odd bird in Power 5 football. I don’t think it’s good for the NU “brand” if we get the reputation of a school that develops players so they can play their best years at another Power 5 school.

Just one long time NU fan’s opinion.
You're doubling down on lunacy. His dad went to NU for grad school, so he has more connection to NU than ND. Even though he literally said it didn't matter, but nothing indicates that ND is his "dream destination".
 

DaCat

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But will Fitz and company allow to play baseball and miss practice football time? Was it Fitz or Walker who made a kid choose?
In addition to Arby Fields, there were Q Williams and Jack Mitchell during Fitz's tenure.