NY post makes compelling argument that the real Russian stooge was Obama

WVPATX

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BO is no longer prez, it's Trump's turn now.

Libs have longed claimed that Trump is a stooge for Russia. This article demonstrates with facts that Obama was in fact Russia's stooge doing their bidding often and with great fervor.

Trump on the other hand, has bombed their sister State in Syria. Is going to rebuild our military. Is going to unleash our energy might. Is going to hold Iran accountable and perhaps even back out of that ridiculous deal and told Russia yesterday they must ask decide if they want to relationship with the United States or with Assad. A far different approach, and much more aggressive approach to Russia than Obama ever dreamed of.
 

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Libs have longed claimed that Trump is a stooge for Russia. This article demonstrates with facts that Obama was in fact Russia's stooge doing their bidding often and with great fervor.

Trump on the other hand, has bombed their sister State in Syria. Is going to rebuild our military. Is going to unleash our energy might. Is going to hold Iran accountable and perhaps even back out of that ridiculous deal and told Russia yesterday they must ask decide if they want to relationship with the United States or with Assad. A far different approach, and much more aggressive approach to Russia than Obama ever dreamed of.
Thanks for your spin. Trump is under congressional investigation regarding his connections to Russia and the election, results to be determined. No one knows how Trump's approach to Syria will turn out so try not to wet yourself.
 

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Thanks for your spin. Trump is under congressional investigation regarding his connections to Russia and the election, results to be determined. No one knows how Trump's approach to Syria will turn out so try not to wet yourself.

What we do know is Obama drew the redline and catastrophe resulted. 5 million Syrian migrants now flooding in Europe. Trump sent Assada powerful message that a new sheriff is in town and the feckless Obama is gone
 

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What we do know is Obama drew the redline and catastrophe resulted. 5 million Syrian migrants now flooding in Europe. Trump sent Assada powerful message that a new sheriff is in town and the feckless Obama is gone
I have no idea why you keep blaming the Syrian civil war (and associated deaths) on BO but you do it daily and it's just stupid . Let's say BO did just what Trump did. Syria was bombing the same town again the next day from the same airfield that Trump hit, just like it never happened. Assad doesn't seem too impressed with this sheriff either.
 

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I have no idea why you keep blaming the Syrian civil war (and associated deaths) on BO but you do it daily and it's just stupid . Let's say BO did just what Trump did. Syria was bombing the same town again the next day from the same airfield that Trump hit, just like it never happened. Assad doesn't seem too impressed with this sheriff either.

Obama had many more options after he drew his red line than Trump has now. Obama had no fly options. He had the options of arming the moderate Syrian rebels very early in the process. He could have called on NATO to help reinforce peace. He could have created green zones for safety of Syrians. He did nothing. Then he lied to the American people saying that Assad got rid of all of his chemical weapons when he knew it was a lie.

By drawing that red line and then doing nada, he gave a huge green light to Assad to do what he wished. Obama kept talking about regime change and did NOTHING. 500,000 lives lost and 5,000,000 migrants flooding Europe. Perhaps as bad, he let Russia back into the Middle East. Utter and complete failure that Obama has even recently admitted.

http://ameriforce.net/obama-admits-failure-syria/
 

moe

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Obama had many more options after he drew his red line than Trump has now. Obama had no fly options. He had the options of arming the moderate Syrian rebels very early in the process. He could have called on NATO to help reinforce peace. He could have created green zones for safety of Syrians. He did nothing. Then he lied to the American people saying that Assad got rid of all of his chemical weapons when he knew it was a lie.

By drawing that red line and then doing nada, he gave a huge green light to Assad to do what he wished. Obama kept talking about regime change and did NOTHING. 500,000 lives lost and 5,000,000 migrants flooding Europe. Perhaps as bad, he let Russia back into the Middle East. Utter and complete failure that Obama has even recently admitted.
You say all of the things that BO woulda shoulda done but Russia was there to push back like they are now. We don't know if anything BO might have done would have helped. If Monday morning QBing is your thing then drive on. Syria is still a sh*t sandwich. The lives lost and refugees created are on Assad and the green light is still on.
 

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You say all of the things that BO woulda shoulda done but Russia was there to push back like they are now. We don't know if anything BO might have done would have helped. If Monday morning QBing is your thing then drive on. Syria is still a sh*t sandwich. The lives lost and refugees created are on Assad and the green light is still on.

Russia was NOT there. When Obama failed to act, Russia later sent troops and planes to Syria. They entered Syria because of Obama's failure to act.

The lives lost are due in significant part to Obama's inactions. As I said, and as many of his advisors suggested, Obama had many options available to him, but ultimately decided to do nothing. Even Obama acknowledges this was one of his biggest mistakes.

More importantly, we lost significant credibility in the Middle East and indeed across the world. North Korea saw his fecklessness. China saw his fecklessness. Russia saw his fecklessness. It is very dangerous for an American president to appear weak because evil will always test that weakness.
 

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Russia was NOT there. When Obama failed to act, Russia later sent troops and planes to Syria. They entered Syria because of Obama's failure to act.

The lives lost are due in significant part to Obama's inactions. As I said, and as many of his advisors suggested, Obama had many options available to him, but ultimately decided to do nothing. Even Obama acknowledges this was one of his biggest mistakes.

More importantly, we lost significant credibility in the Middle East and indeed across the world. North Korea saw his fecklessness. China saw his fecklessness. Russia saw his fecklessness. It is very dangerous for an American president to appear weak because evil will always test that weakness.
Keep blaming BO 'cause that just what you do whether it's Syria or something else. Keep criticizing BO for not starting any new wars. Russia has been a Syrian ally and has had a naval base there since the 70's. Trump lobbed a few missiles and Syria barely noticed. North Korea seems to be real scared of Trump. Let me know when Trump ends the Syrian civil war.
 

WVPATX

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Keep blaming BO 'cause that just what you do whether it's Syria or something else. Keep criticizing BO for not starting any new wars. Russia has been a Syrian ally and has had a naval base there since the 70's. Trump lobbed a few missiles and Syria barely noticed. North Korea seems to be real scared of Trump. Let me know when Trump ends the Syrian civil war.

Obama was in charge of our foreign policy for 8 long years. This is all on Obama as these were his decisions. He went against the DOD and CIA in Iraq with the pull out (we are now back in and this decision paved the way for ISIS to rise and gain strength). He stupidly ousted Gadaffi causing millions of migrants and creating a huge foothold for ISIS. He drew his famous red line in Syria. His Iran deal that guarantees Iran gets a nuke, gives them billions to help fund even more terrorism and rebuild the Persian Empire from Syria eastward. His punishment of Israel, our only real ally in the region. HIs appeasement of China as they take over the East and South China Seas. I could go on and on. Presidents, more than any other facet of their Presidency are responsible for foreign policy and the results.
 

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Obama was in charge of our foreign policy for 8 long years. This is all on Obama as these were his decisions. He went against the DOD and CIA in Iraq with the pull out (we are now back in and this decision paved the way for ISIS to rise and gain strength). He stupidly ousted Gadaffi causing millions of migrants and creating a huge foothold for ISIS. He drew his famous red line in Syria. His Iran deal that guarantees Iran gets a nuke, gives them billions to help fund even more terrorism and rebuild the Persian Empire from Syria eastward. His punishment of Israel, our only real ally in the region. HIs appeasement of China as they take over the East and South China Seas. I could go on and on. Presidents, more than any other facet of their Presidency are responsible for foreign policy and the results.
You're obsessed with BO, maybe some therapy will help.
 

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You're obsessed with BO, maybe some therapy will help.
BO may rank up there in all the social issues but as far as his foreign policy approach. It was either ignorant or calculated.
 

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Trump is the best thing ever happen for W, I'd take him back in a heartbeat, at least he knew he wasn't the sharpest pencil in the box.