Obama: America has a racist culture

[WVPATX]

According to Pulitzer Prize winning historian, David Garrow. Garrow is writing a book about Obama. Obama's attitude toward this country explains quite a bit, particularly in the church he chose to attend, in the actions of his DOJ and his attitude toward police officers, for example. This also tends to explain Obama's many apologies to others about this country because he feels this country is deeply flawed.

Does America have some racists? Absolutely, but so sweeping a commentary from Obama demonstrates an attitude in marked contrast to the actual culture, mores and values of much of this country. His attitude shows little regard for the tremendous progress we have made as a country on this issue.

'Racism against African Americans continues to exist throughout American society, an admittedly racist culture,' Obama and Fischer wrote, according to Garrow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...America-racist-society-claims-biographer.html

 

[atlkvb]

According to Pulitzer Prize winning historian, David Garrow. Garrow is writing a book about Obama. Obama's attitude toward this country explains quite a bit, particularly in the church he chose to attend, in the actions of his DOJ and his attitude toward police officers, for example. This also tends to explain Obama's many apologies to others about this country because he feels this country is deeply flawed.

Does America have some racists? Absolutely, but so sweeping a commentary from Obama demonstrates an attitude in marked contrast to the actual culture, mores and values of much of this country. His attitude shows little regard for the tremendous progress we have made as a country on this issue.

'Racism against African Americans continues to exist throughout American society, an admittedly racist culture,' Obama and Fischer wrote, according to Garrow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...America-racist-society-claims-biographer.html

To me, neither he (Obama) nor the Left have any credibility on this issue. If one were to judge a policy as "racial" simply by its results, the Left's massive income redistribution through the so called 50 year old "war on poverty" has done more harm and caused more devasatation to a singular "race" of people than any hate filed rhetoric from a bunch of classless idiots like the KKK.

Institutional racism is practiced on the Left as a method to implement their political strategy of central planning and removal of individual Liberty. Black people have been the ones to suffer most from this failed and misguided ideology. The Left uses race to divide by class, culture, and yes even ideology because Black Conservatives are treated worse by the Left than any expressed or avowed White Supremacists.

Even the Leftist apologists on this board have accused me of some of the most heinous things and called me some of the worst racial epithets imaginable simply because I am Black yet Conservative and I strongly disagree with their discredited Leftist Statist pathologies. The true racists in our soceity do not reside with the majority of Americans who value individual Liberty and Freedom based on merit and realizing one's God given potential in a free society. The true racists among us are on the Left, who only exist to call "racism" that which disagrees with their devotion to Leviathan.

 

[dave]

Obama is a racist.

 

[MountaineerWV]

To me, neither he (Obama) nor the Left have any credibility on this issue. If one were to judge a policy as "racial" simply by its results, the Left's massive income redistribution through the so called 50 year old "war on poverty" has done more harm and caused more devasatation to a singular "race" of people than any hate filed rhetoric from a bunch of classless idiots like the KKK.

Institutional racism is practiced on the Left as a method to implement their political strategy of central planning and removal of individual Liberty. Black people have been the ones to suffer most from this failed and misguided ideology. The Left uses race to divide by class, culture, and yes even ideology because Black Conservatives are treated worse by the Left than any expressed or avowed White Supremacists.

Even the Leftist apologists on this board have accused me of some of the most heinous things and called me some of the worst racial epithets imaginable simply because I am Black yet Conservative and I strongly disgaree with their discredited Leftist Statist pathologies. The true racists in our soceity do not reside with the majority of Americans who value individual Liberty and Freedom based on merit and realizing one's God given potential in a free society. The true racists among us are on the Left, who only exist to call "racism" that which disagrees with their devotion to Leviathan.

So, only Democrats are racist? [thumbsup]

And you are as black as I am.......

 

[WVPATX]

So, only Democrats are racist? [thumbsup]

And you are as black as I am.......

 

[WVPATX]

First of all, Obama believes that America has a racist culture. That says so very much about his attitude toward this country and explains a great deal about his administration's actions.

Secondly a significant percentage of Democrats and the media believe that only the Republicans have racist in their party. That is blatantly untrue and contributes to the lack of respect Americans have for the media in general.

I believe the Democrats biggest sin with respect to African-Americans is the bigotry of low expectations. Democrats also made horrible mistakes with respect to African-Americans with the new deal programs of LBJ that continue to this day.

 

[MountaineerWV]

I believe the Democrats biggest sin with respect to African-Americans is the bigotry of low expectations. Democrats also made horrible mistakes with respect to African-Americans with the new deal programs of LBJ that continue to this day.

You are right.....should have just let the "Good Ole Boy" South take care of the African-Americans like they had for 100 years prior to LBJ........[thumbsup].....Good ole Strom and boys would have helped them out greatly!

 

[WVPATX]

You are right.....should have just let the "Good Ole Boy" South take care of the African-Americans like they had for 100 years prior to LBJ........[thumbsup].....Good ole Strom and boys would have helped them out greatly!

By every stretch of the imagination, LBJ's great society has been a dramatic failure in its war on poverty. Trillions have been wasted. And when you talk about the good old boys of the south, you are talking about Democrats.

Strom Thurmond for example is the only senator I know that switched parties.

 

[MountaineerWV]

By every stretch of the imagination, LBJ's great society has been a dramatic failure in its war on poverty. Trillions have been wasted. And when you talk about the good old boys of the south, you are talking about Democrats.

Strom Thurmond for example is the only senator I know that switched parties.

You think I don't know that the Democrats controlled the South? Duh! But just like the Republicans a few years ago, parties splinter off but maintain the same affiliation but with different platforms. The Southern Democrats were not the national Democrats. If someone, like LBJ, didn't stand up to them then it would have been decades later before things would have changed.

Like it or not, as proven by in the early 1900's, it is necessary for the government to get involved to attempt (notice I didn't say achieve) to help out with social injustices and problems.

And why would Strom switch in 1964 from being a Democrat to a Republican? Perhaps he shared the same interests as they did? Remember Nixon's "Southern Strategy" in the 1968 election?

 

[atlkvb]

You think I don't know that the Democrats controlled the South? Duh! But just like the Republicans a few years ago, parties splinter off but maintain the same affiliation but with different platforms. The Southern Democrats were not the national Democrats. If someone, like LBJ, didn't stand up to them then it would have been decades later before things would have changed.

Like it or not, as proven by in the early 1900's, it is necessary for the government to get involved to attempt (notice I didn't say achieve) to help out with social injustices and problems.

And why would Strom switch in 1964 from being a Democrat to a Republican? Perhaps he shared the same interests as they did? Remember Nixon's "Southern Strategy" in the 1968 election?

MounaineerWV, why are Black Conservatives not considered "Black enough" by the Left? If the Left is so concerned about racial equality and diversity, why was Clarence Thomas opposed by most Leftists in this country?

Why is Ben Carson called "incompetent" by Leftists? Why do my Leftist friends (and many of you on this board) call me names and claim I am "stupid" for oppising Leftist statism?

In case you didn't know btw...I am Black. Am I a "racist" according to the Left?

 

[MountaineerWV]

MounaineerWV, why are Black Conservatives not considered "Black enough" by the Left? If the Left is so concerned about racial equality and diversity, why was Clarence Thomas opposed by most Leftists in this country?

Why is Ben Carson called "incompetent" by Leftists? Why do my Leftist friends (and many of you on this board) call me names and claim I am "stupid" for oppising Leftist statism?

In case you didn't know btw...I am Black. Am I a "racist" according to the Left?

All I was saying was you are as black as I am.........you added all the other verbiage. Am I black? Maybe. Am I white? Perhaps. Doesn't matter to me what I am......other than the fact I'm an American. :americanflag::americanflag::americanflag:

 

[atlkvb]

All I was saying was you are as black as I am.........you added all the other verbiage. Am I black? Maybe. Am I white? Perhaps. Doesn't matter to me what I am......other than the fact I'm an American. :americanflag::americanflag::americanflag:

This is the only thing you've recently posted that I agree with you on. Too bad your friends on the Left aren't with you on this at least. Black people who are Conservative are Pariahs according to the kind, compassionate, tolerant, considerate Left.

 

[WVPATX]

You think I don't know that the Democrats controlled the South? Duh! But just like the Republicans a few years ago, parties splinter off but maintain the same affiliation but with different platforms. The Southern Democrats were not the national Democrats. If someone, like LBJ, didn't stand up to them then it would have been decades later before things would have changed.

Like it or not, as proven by in the early 1900's, it is necessary for the government to get involved to attempt (notice I didn't say achieve) to help out with social injustices and problems.

And why would Strom switch in 1964 from being a Democrat to a Republican? Perhaps he shared the same interests as they did? Remember Nixon's "Southern Strategy" in the 1968 election?

I do remember Nixon's southern strategy and I remember almost all of the southern democrats opposed to the Civil Right legislation staying Democrats. And I think all of the southern governors, such as George Wallace, stayed Democrats.

Your post reminds me of a book written by Dennis Prager. His theory is that Dems want to "feel good" about using the feds to initiate federal programs to address issues. Republicans, on the other hand, want to "do good." In other words, if a program is not working, Dems tend to favor increasing spending while the GOP wishes to discontinue it. Why waste trillions? Dems feel good about the Great Society programs even though they failed because they can claim they care and are more sensitive and empathetic.

 

[MountaineerWV]

This is the only thing you've recently posted that I agree with you on. Too bad your friends on the Left aren't with you on this at least. Black people who are Conservative are Pariahs according to the kind, compassionate, tolerant, considerate Left.

And I could say that Republicans, or the "right", only care about the super-wealthy Americans and don't give two sh!ts about middle America.......but I won't do that.......[thumbsup].....I don't like profiling people or labeling them unjustly in to one lump claim.

 

[atlkvb]

And I could say that Republicans, or the "right", only care about the super-wealthy Americans and don't give two sh!ts about middle America.......but I won't do that.......[thumbsup].....I don't like profiling people or labeling them unjustly in to one lump claim.

Good for you MountaineerWV, because if you did say that it would be wrong. The Left claims that all of the time about Conservatives, but if I had to choose which one respects my ability and intellect more...I'm not picking the Left.

 

[WVPATX]

All I was saying was you are as black as I am.........you added all the other verbiage. Am I black? Maybe. Am I white? Perhaps. Doesn't matter to me what I am......other than the fact I'm an American. :americanflag::americanflag::americanflag:

"other than the fact I'm an American"

Then you are at odds with your party. The Dems are all about identity politics. They have played the race card forever. There is no doubt that Dems blast conservative blacks as Uncle Toms, as not real blacks, as traitors, etc. They want these blacks on their own liberal thought plantation.

Identify politics only serves to divide. I remember a comment made by the late John Wayne. He said he hated hyphenated identities (e.g. African-Americans, Asian-Americans, etc). He said that hyphens only serve to divide. He is right and you are right, we are all Americans and if we can to that point in our society, we can begin to heal and begin to solve very real problems, such as our failed education system.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

According to Pulitzer Prize winning historian, David Garrow. Garrow is writing a book about Obama. Obama's attitude toward this country explains quite a bit, particularly in the church he chose to attend, in the actions of his DOJ and his attitude toward police officers, for example. This also tends to explain Obama's many apologies to others about this country because he feels this country is deeply flawed.

Does America have some racists? Absolutely, but so sweeping a commentary from Obama demonstrates an attitude in marked contrast to the actual culture, mores and values of much of this country. His attitude shows little regard for the tremendous progress we have made as a country on this issue.

'Racism against African Americans continues to exist throughout American society, an admittedly racist culture,' Obama and Fischer wrote, according to Garrow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...America-racist-society-claims-biographer.html

They are exactly right. You have no point.

 

[WVPATX]

And I could say that Republicans, or the "right", only care about the super-wealthy Americans and don't give two sh!ts about middle America.......but I won't do that.......[thumbsup].....I don't like profiling people or labeling them unjustly in to one lump claim.

Trump just won Michigan, PA, OH by appealing to middle America. The Dems are now the party of the super wealthy. Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Wall Street, etc. Hillary received far more money from billionaires than Trump could have dreamed of. The party identities are changing drastically. The realignment has started with Trump.

 

[WVPATX]

They are exactly right. You have no point.

Not me making those statements but a Pulitizer Prize winning historian. Obama is what Obama is and he believes what he believes.

 

[atlkvb]

"other than the fact I'm an American"

Then you are at odds with your party. The Dems are all about identity politics. They have played the race card forever. There is no doubt that Dems blast conservative blacks as Uncle Toms, as not real blacks, as traitors, etc. They want these blacks on their own liberal thought plantation.

Identify politics only serves to divide. I remember a comment made by the late John Wayne. He said he hated hyphenated identities (e.g. African-Americans, Asian-Americans, etc). He said that hyphens only serve to divide. He is right and you are right, we are all Americans and if we can to that point in our society, we can begin to heal and begin to solve very real problems, such as our failed education system.

Agree with this 100%

 

[atlkvb]

And I could say that Republicans, or the "right", only care about the super-wealthy Americans and don't give two sh!ts about middle America.......but I won't do that.......[thumbsup].....I don't like profiling people or labeling them unjustly in to one lump claim.

MoauntaineerWV...if the Left is concerned about Blacks advancing, why do they oppose school choice vouchers for poor Black Families to find good schools outside of their dilapidated and failing inner city schools?

The Left loves "polls" and "statistcs" and choice vouchers have overwhelming suport (80% or more in some cases) among Blacks. So why does the Left oppose them? They work very well when given a chance and they aren't being blocked by Leftist Teacher unions or Democrat political hacks.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Trump just won Michigan, PA, OH by appealing to middle America. The Dems are now the party of the super wealthy.

You might want to rethink your "facts".

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[WVPATX]

MoauntaineerWV...if the Left is concerned about Blacks advancing, why do they oppose school choice vouchers for poor Black Families to find good schools outside of their dilapidated and failing inner city schools?

The Left loves "polls" and "statistcs" and choice vouchers have overwhelming suport (80% or more in some cases) among Blacks. So why does the Left oppose them? They work very well when given a chance and they aren't being blocked by Leftist Teacher unions or Democrat political hacks.

Great point. Another point is why not address the root of a huge problem in black America as well as brown and white America? The incredibly destructive out of wedlock birthrate? Very few Dems even talk about the elephant in the room. Better schools, through vouchers, charter schools, school choice, etc. is a start. But until we address the single parent issue, particularly in inner cities, we will not make nearly the progress that we need to make. Where is Hollywood on this issue? They make all sorts of movies about "bad" conservative policies, motives and actions but none about this incredible societal problem. Where is leadership in the Dem party talking about this issue? They are nowhere for fear of offending their identity politics strategy. And blacks, browns and whites are much worse off for it.

Ironically, a Dem Senator from NY, first research this issue in 1965, I believe. His name was Daniel Patrick Moynihan. And he believed the out of wedlock birthrate was the single biggest risk to blacks successful rise in America.

 

[atlkvb]

Great point. Another point is why not address the root of a huge problem in black America as well as brown and white America? The incredibly destructive out of wedlock birthrate? Very few Dems even talk about the elephant in the room. Better schools, through vouchers, charter schools, school choice, etc. is a start. But until we address the single parent issue, particularly in inner cities, we will not make nearly the progress that we need to make. Where is Hollywood on this issue? They make all sorts of movies about "bad" conservative policies, motives and actions but none about this incredible societal problem. Where is leadership in the Dem party talking about this issue? They are nowhere for fear of offending their identity politics strategy. And blacks, browns and whites are much worse off for it.

Ironically, a Dem Senator from NY, first research this issue in 1965, I believe. His name was Daniel Patrick Moynihan. And he believed the out of wedlock birthrate was the single biggest risk to blacks successful rise in America.

Yes correct. But the reason they (Left) don't talk about out-of-wedlock birth is because they're too busy promoting the destruction of the "fetuses". Who cares about wed-lock when you can just kill the kid at taxpayer expense if you don't want it (fetus)?

They're not Babies according to the Left, they're just "fetuses"...but they do have value as cut up pieces of meat on the open market to the Left which also denies selling off their body parts for profit.

Disgusting.

 

[WVPATX]

You might want to rethink your "facts".

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“And one newspaper criticized me, ‘Why can’t they have people of modest means?’” Trump said at a Des Moines, Iowa rally. “Because I want people that made a fortune. Because now they’re negotiating with you, okay?”

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Betsy DeVos, nominated for secretary of education, comes from a family worth more than $5 billion; Linda McMahon, picked for small business administrator, has family wealth worth $1.2 billion; And Vincent Viola, the choice for Army secretary, is worth $1.77 billion.

“I guess they have a few poor millionaires on it, but mostly it’s billionaires,” said Sen. Bernie Sanders.


Play VIDEO

Sanders: "It looks like we have a cabinet of billionaires"

Critics like Sanders say Trump’s choices fly in the face of his populist campaign message. “You don’t appoint a Cabinet of billionaires to be taking on the establishment,” he said on Sunday’s “Face The Nation.”

Steve Mnuchin, Trump’s Treasury pick has been estimated to be worth as much as $655 million. He and commerce secretary nominee Wilbur Ross, worth $2.5 billion, recently said they were attuned to the plight of working Americans.

“It’s also not true all jobs are created equal. A guy that used to work in the steel mill, now flipping hamburgers, he knows it’s not the same,” Ross said in an appearance on CNBC.

Having millionaire and billionaire cabinet secretaries is not unprecedented. They tend to attract slots at Treasury and Commerce. But neither President Obama nor President George W. Bush had a single billionaire in their first Cabinets.

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This point is completely irrelevant. He won Michigan. He won Pennsylvania. He won Wisconsin. He won Ohio. Blue collar states. Why? He appealed to the things important to them. Trade, jobs, tax cuts, middle class income, etc. Hillary won the coasts, where elitists reign. Trump raised far more donations from small contributors while Hillary primarily relied on big monied donors.

Let's look at campaign donations.


Clinton and her super-PACs raised a total of $1.2 billion, less than President Barack Obama raised in 2012. Her sophisticated fundraising operation included a small army of wealthy donors who wrote seven-figure checks, hundreds of bundlers who raised $100,000 or more from their own networks, and a small-dollar donor operation modeled on the one used by Obama in 2012. She spent heavily on television advertising and her get-out-the-vote operation, but in the end, her fundraising edge wasn't enough to overcome Trump's ability to dominate headlines and the airwaves.

On Dec. 8, campaigns and super-PACs filed their post-election reports on fundraising and spending with the Federal Election Commission from Oct. 20 through Nov. 28. Here's where they stood at the end of the race:

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JULY | AUGUST | SEPTEMBER | OCTOBER | PRE-GENERAL

Hillary Clinton
TOTAL RAISED
$1,191M
Candidate Raised to Date* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $973.2M

Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $969.1M

Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $4.1M


Super-PACs Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $217.5M

Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $215.1M

Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $3.7M


Total Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,190.7M

Total Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $1,184.1M

Total Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $7.8M


Donald Trump
TOTAL RAISED
$646.8M
Candidate Raised to Date* . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $564.3M

Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $531.0M

Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $33.3M


Super-PACs Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $82.3M

Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $85.5M

Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . -$1.8M


Total Raised to Date . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $646.8M

Total Spent . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $616.5M

Total Cash on Hand . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . $31.5M

* Candidate fundraising includes campaign and joint fundraising committees.



While Trump was the biggest single donor to his own cause, his small donor fundraising operation was his biggest source of campaign cash. Clinton had an aggressive small-dollar donor operation as well, but her biggest source was larger donations, many of which came via the networks of her hundreds of bundlers.

Trump put more of his money into winning the primaries than he did in the general election, thanks in part to a surge in small-dollar donors to his campaign.

Trump Total Receipts*

Itemized (> $200)

Unitemized (< $200)

Loans, Transfers, OtherQ2Q3Q4JFMAMJJASON$0.2M$0.7M$5.2M
Throughout the campaign, Clinton's team stressed its support from small donors, but both Trump and Bernie Sanders leaned more heavily on them than Clinton.

Clinton Total Receipts*

Itemized (> $200)

Unitemized (< $200)

Loans, Transfers, OtherQ2Q3Q4JFMAMJJASON$16.3M$6.1M$4.5M

 

[WVPATX]

Yes correct. But the reason they (Left) don't talk about out-of-wedlock birth is because they're too busy promoting the destruction of the "fetuses". Who cares about wed-lock when you can just kill the kid at taxpayer expense if you don't want it (fetus)?

They're not Babies according to the Left, they're just "fetuses"...but they do have value as cut up pieces of meat on the open market to the Left which also denies selling off their body parts for profit.

Disgusting.

As you know, the founder of Planned Parenthood wanted essentially to wipe out the black race in America.

 

[dave]

So, only Democrats are racist? [thumbsup]

And you are as black as I am.......

Another racist comment. Why do you other libs allow him to represent you like this? He makes you all look bad.

 

[atlkvb]

As you know, the founder of Planned Parenthood wanted essentially to wipe out the black race in America.

Again correct. In fact she (Margaret Sanger) was an avowed racist. (eugenicist) They (Left) worship her and call Christians opposed to infanticide "racists".

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

So, only Democrats are racist? [thumbsup]

And you are as black as I wish I was.......

Fixed it for you.

 

[mneilmont]

You are right.....should have just let the "Good Ole Boy" South take care of the African-Americans like they had for 100 years prior to LBJ........[thumbsup].....Good ole Strom and boys would have helped them out greatly!

Why do you always look to others for help? It is Bull ****, when I see so many blacks who have succeeded on their own. Have no less respect for a successful person just because of the hue of his skin. Unlike Obama's, "Didn't do it on their own" BS, hard work pays off. It doesn't guarantee success, but it certainly does enhance the odds.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

looking at this pie chart...

I'm hungry now...

 

[atlkvb]

Why do you always look to others for help? It is Bull ****, when I see so many blacks who have succeeded on their own. Have no less respect for a successful person just because of the hue of his skin. Unlike Obama's, "Didn't do it on their own" BS, hard work pays off. It doesn't guarantee success, but it certainly does enhance the odds.

This is one of the main reasons why the Left lost me many many years ago. This insinuation that I was incapable of making it on my own without some handout or program or set aside. Denial of my talent and effort in exchange for adherence to some Leftist "make good" project.

Insulting on its face, if not altogether racist in it's execution or implementation.

 

[WVU82_rivals]

 

[moe]

According to Pulitzer Prize winning historian, David Garrow. Garrow is writing a book about Obama. Obama's attitude toward this country explains quite a bit, particularly in the church he chose to attend, in the actions of his DOJ and his attitude toward police officers, for example. This also tends to explain Obama's many apologies to others about this country because he feels this country is deeply flawed.

Does America have some racists? Absolutely, but so sweeping a commentary from Obama demonstrates an attitude in marked contrast to the actual culture, mores and values of much of this country. His attitude shows little regard for the tremendous progress we have made as a country on this issue.

'Racism against African Americans continues to exist throughout American society, an admittedly racist culture,' Obama and Fischer wrote, according to Garrow.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...America-racist-society-claims-biographer.html

Racism is alive and well in the U.S. I haven't read the book but I don't disagree with the quote you provided. The same could be said about every country on the planet though.

 

[WVPATX]

Racism is alive and well in the U.S. I haven't read the book but I don't disagree with the quote you provided. The same could be said about every country on the planet though.

There are racists in this country, both liberals and conservatives. But it is a significant minority of the country. The country does not have a "racist culture" as Obama seems to think. We have made enormous progress. But it does explain many of his actions and policies while he was President and it explains his wife's comment about being proud, for the first time in her adult life in this country, after her husband was elected.

 

[Airport]

Racism is alive and well in the U.S. I haven't read the book but I don't disagree with the quote you provided. The same could be said about every country on the planet though.

First thing that you've said that I agree with. Every country has racism. It's just the human example. However, I disagree with you that racism here prevents people from achieving more.

 

[moe]

However, I disagree with you that racism here prevents people from achieving more.

I made no mention of achievement.

 

[Airport]

I made no mention of achievement.

No, but that is what liberals always say about the racist make up of our country and that the minorities are held back by racism. In this country, you can succeed in spite of racism. Unless you are an architect.

 

[moe]

No, but that is what liberals always say about the racist make up of our country and that the minorities are held back by racism. In this country, you can succeed in spite of racism. Unless you are an architect.

I avoid that aspect of the discussion since I am white and haven't had the experiences that blacks or other minorities have had, I can't speak to that.

 

[D. Denzil Finney]

Yes correct. But the reason they (Left) don't talk about out-of-wedlock birth is because they're too busy promoting the destruction of the "fetuses". Who cares about wed-lock when you can just kill the kid at taxpayer expense if you don't want it (fetus)?

They're not Babies according to the Left, they're just "fetuses"...but they do have value as cut up pieces of meat on the open market to the Left which also denies selling off their body parts for profit.

Disgusting.

Do you believe that the Left are the only "people" that have those feelings? The right is free of these thoughts and actions? I, personally do not believe in abortion or as you say "just kill the kid".

I believe the. action is a national "epidemic" participated in by both the Left and Right. The real problem,to me, is the number of children growing up in a one parent home.