Obama's legacy

[robEERt]

Obama is a sanctimonious fraud. From where I stand, I can see what he and his administration have done in the Middle East (Iran deal notwithstanding). In Syria and Libya, Obama will be remembered as the enabler of ISIS and the mass murderers. When is the Western establishment in its crumbling ivory tower ever going to deal with the reality of Obama's incompetence? Can we stop covering Obama in teflon because he happens to be the first black President and judge his presidency on merits? And Hillary will be a whole lot worse - much, much worse. Libya was her doing as Secretary of State with Obama doing nothing to restrain this incompetent tool of the Saudis

Obama is responsible for whatever the racial mood is nowadays. He campaigned as the "healer" and "bridgebuilder" then governed as the common street agitator that he really is. He cares many times more about seeding the USA with Islam and overcoming the conservative majority in Texas than he does about American blacks. People figured this out early on and their resentment of him has grown. You are still projecting your fantasies on him, circa 2008. And your argument here about the next term is nothing but a shallow bedroom argument that deserves no response, only contempt. You need to get over it

 

[moe]

Obama is a sanctimonious fraud. From where I stand, I can see what he and his administration have done in the Middle East (Iran deal notwithstanding). In Syria and Libya, Obama will be remembered as the enabler of ISIS and the mass murderers. When is the Western establishment in its crumbling ivory tower ever going to deal with the reality of Obama's incompetence? Can we stop covering Obama in teflon because he happens to be the first black President and judge his presidency on merits? And Hillary will be a whole lot worse - much, much worse. Libya was her doing as Secretary of State with Obama doing nothing to restrain this incompetent tool of the Saudis

Obama is responsible for whatever the racial mood is nowadays. He campaigned as the "healer" and "bridgebuilder" then governed as the common street agitator that he really is. He cares many times more about seeding the USA with Islam and overcoming the conservative majority in Texas than he does about American blacks. People figured this out early on and their resentment of him has grown. You are still projecting your fantasies on him, circa 2008. And your argument here about the next term is nothing but a shallow bedroom argument that deserves no response, only contempt. You need to get over it

lol wow, feel better now?

 

[WVUBRU]

I notice on MMB that certain threads get marked with a Trolling label. Is it possible to get all of this idiot's and Eers posts marked on the OT board?

 

[DvlDog4WVU]

I notice on MMB that certain threads get marked with a Trolling label. Is it possible to get all of this idiot's and Eers posts marked on the OT board?

I mean, completely ignoring his post is one way to go about it. Another might be to acknowledge there is a significant portion of this country who feels very much like he does. You have to wonder if they are all just brainwashed by Fox News or if there might be some merit to their concerns and you all might be the ones with an inability to see Obama objectively.

I personally think it's somewhere in the middle but I do firmly believe he has been divisive.

 

[Popeer]

I mean, completely ignoring his post is one way to go about it. Another might be to acknowledge there is a significant portion of this country who feels very much like he does. You have to wonder if they are all just brainwashed by Fox News or if there might be some merit to their concerns and you all might be the ones with an inability to see Obama objectively.

I personally think it's somewhere in the middle but I do firmly believe he has been divisive.

He has not been a uniter, but that's not all on him either -- I don't recall Harry Reid standing up on the floor of the Senate and saying that the Democrats considered their primary task to be making George W. Bush a one-term president. Certainly nobody ever interrupted one of his speeches with "You lie!"

But my question on Syria has always been, what would you have him do? The choices were always either to back Assad as Russia is doing, or to help one of the ten dozen or so radical factions overthrow him and create another failed state. I credit him with learning the lesson from Libya, where we poked our nose in and ended up creating a vacuum now filled by something worse than a megalomaniacal dictator.

I also find it amusing that the neocons bash and bash Obama for carrying on their cherished dreams of "regime change" with Libya and Egypt, where it's working out almost as well as it did when Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld engineered it in Iraq.

 

[Airport]

I mean, completely ignoring his post is one way to go about it. Another might be to acknowledge there is a significant portion of this country who feels very much like he does. You have to wonder if they are all just brainwashed by Fox News or if there might be some merit to their concerns and you all might be the ones with an inability to see Obama objectively.

I personally think it's somewhere in the middle but I do firmly believe he has been divisive.

I thought he'd be remembered as the only black man who couldn't shoot a basketball or thrown a baseball![winking]

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Obama is a sanctimonious fraud. From where I stand, I can see what he and his administration have done in the Middle East (Iran deal notwithstanding). In Syria and Libya, Obama will be remembered as the enabler of ISIS and the mass murderers. When is the Western establishment in its crumbling ivory tower ever going to deal with the reality of Obama's incompetence? Can we stop covering Obama in teflon because he happens to be the first black President and judge his presidency on merits? And Hillary will be a whole lot worse - much, much worse. Libya was her doing as Secretary of State with Obama doing nothing to restrain this incompetent tool of the Saudis

Obama is responsible for whatever the racial mood is nowadays. He campaigned as the "healer" and "bridgebuilder" then governed as the common street agitator that he really is. He cares many times more about seeding the USA with Islam and overcoming the conservative majority in Texas than he does about American blacks. People figured this out early on and their resentment of him has grown. You are still projecting your fantasies on him, circa 2008. And your argument here about the next term is nothing but a shallow bedroom argument that deserves no response, only contempt. You need to get over it

Yes, Obama, that idiot. He didn't send in a bunch of ground troops to wage war and suffer a high number of casualties. He used the technology that we have advanced, in the form of UAVs, to inflict damage on ISIS while keeping our soldiers at very low risk. What an idiot.

 

[robEERt]

Yes, Obama, that idiot. He didn't send in a bunch of ground troops to wage war and suffer a high number of casualties. He used the technology that we have advanced, in the form of UAVs, to inflict damage on ISIS while keeping our soldiers at very low risk. What an idiot.

That's why they are here. You won't have to go far to find them. Enjoy what you have allow under this wimp.

 

[op2]

If there is one person in this country that ISN'T in a position to heal the divisions between the races it's a black POTUS. If any kind of healing between the races is going to come from a President it has to come from a President of the majority group, not the minority group. What exactly is Obama supposed to do on that front? In case you didn't know, plenty of people in the black community are annoyed with Obama for not pushing the race thing more or for having too many comments about blacks having to be more responsible.

Blacks think Obama is too mean towards blacks and whites think Obama is too mean towards whites. And really you could have predicted that when he first got into office. Anything he says on race will be disliked by somebody. The best thing he can do on race is not say anything and just try to do a good job at POTUS in general. After he's out of office and the political stuff around him starts to fade as someone else becomes POTUS then maybe he'll have an opportunity to do something on race, but not now.

 

[Airport]

If there is one person in this country that ISN'T in a position to heal the divisions between the races it's a black POTUS. If any kind of healing between the races is going to come from a President it has to come from a President of the majority group, not the minority group. What exactly is Obama supposed to do on that front? In case you didn't know, plenty of people in the black community are annoyed with Obama for not pushing the race thing more or for having too many comments about blacks having to be more responsible.

Blacks think Obama is too mean towards blacks and whites think Obama is too mean towards whites. And really you could have predicted that when he first got into office. Anything he says on race will be disliked by somebody. The best thing he can do on race is not say anything and just try to do a good job at POTUS in general. After he's out of office and the political stuff around him starts to fade as someone else becomes POTUS then maybe he'll have an opportunity to do something on race, but not now.

His teachable moments were complete frauds. Blacks need to more responsible for themselves. it's not whiteys fault that they shoot each other at an alarming rate. I guess by Obama being mean to blacks means he hasn't gotten more free stuff for them?

 

[op2]

His teachable moments were complete frauds. Blacks need to more responsible for themselves. it's not whiteys fault that they shoot each other at an alarming rate. I guess by Obama being mean to blacks means he hasn't gotten more free stuff for them?

You need to think of the effect something someone says has. What effect does Obama as POTUS have when he publicly says that blackes need to be more responsible? What effect does it have on whites and on blacks?

 

[Airport]

You need to think of the effect something someone says has. What effect does Obama as POTUS have when he publicly says that blackes need to be more responsible? What effect does it have on whites and on blacks?

Obama has been given credit for his great family and the fact he hasn't left them. You can't have it both ways. he hasn't made an attempt to say, "We are responsible for our own actions." The first black Pres had the unique platform to speak directly to blacks , stay in school, don't get into drugs and don't get pregnant. it isn't a cure but it would help. Instead, he's made a point of these teachable moments that weren't. None of those moments helped in the least. He could go to Chicago and call out the black on black violence as much worse than anything that has happened to them because of police action.

 

[mneilmont]

Obama has been given credit for his great family and the fact he hasn't left them. You can't have it both ways. he hasn't made an attempt to say, "We are responsible for our own actions." The first black Pres had the unique platform to speak directly to blacks , stay in school, don't get into drugs and don't get pregnant. it isn't a cure but it would help. Instead, he's made a point of these teachable moments that weren't. None of those moments helped in the least. He could go to Chicago and call out the black on black violence as much worse than anything that has happened to them because of police action.

What is the problem? The message or the messenger? Was the wrong black man elected to lead?

Do you not think Bro Al could have gone into any inner-city and got a hell of afollowing by changing the message to burn and loot. May have to create a Twaney situation. Big Al really had a following in that situation.

Obama has been just a bit self centered. What does "his great family"? Who proclaimed it to greatness. What has he done as the head of the family greater than what he was supposed to do? Remain married and do not abandon the family? That should be basic expectation for anyone getting married and producing a family.

He has failed as a leader. Has part of his campaign been to strengthen all family units. He holds the hand or hugs the daughters in public. That shouldn't be hard. Has he prompted others to follow suite? He looks to me like he is doing what he is comfortable with, but refuses to challenge others to imitate him. Is that asking too much of a black president? Time is running out.

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Obama is a sanctimonious fraud. From where I stand, I can see what he and his administration have done in the Middle East (Iran deal notwithstanding). In Syria and Libya, Obama will be remembered as the enabler of ISIS and the mass murderers. When is the Western establishment in its crumbling ivory tower ever going to deal with the reality of Obama's incompetence? Can we stop covering Obama in teflon because he happens to be the first black President and judge his presidency on merits? And Hillary will be a whole lot worse - much, much worse. Libya was her doing as Secretary of State with Obama doing nothing to restrain this incompetent tool of the Saudis

Obama is responsible for whatever the racial mood is nowadays. He campaigned as the "healer" and "bridgebuilder" then governed as the common street agitator that he really is. He cares many times more about seeding the USA with Islam and overcoming the conservative majority in Texas than he does about American blacks. People figured this out early on and their resentment of him has grown. You are still projecting your fantasies on him, circa 2008. And your argument here about the next term is nothing but a shallow bedroom argument that deserves no response, only contempt. You need to get over it

What President was CIC when Bin Laden was taken out? Pesky facts.

Here are more facts. Idiot!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ia-more-than-150-killed/ar-BBqrytL?li=BBnb7Kz

 

[op2]

Obama has been given credit for his great family and the fact he hasn't left them. You can't have it both ways. he hasn't made an attempt to say, "We are responsible for our own actions." The first black Pres had the unique platform to speak directly to blacks , stay in school, don't get into drugs and don't get pregnant. it isn't a cure but it would help. Instead, he's made a point of these teachable moments that weren't. None of those moments helped in the least. He could go to Chicago and call out the black on black violence as much worse than anything that has happened to them because of police action.

Go tell that to black people. They'll tell you that not only has he done that stuff that you say he hasn't done, but that he's done too much of it. That's the whole problem, namely no matter what he says or does on race at least one side (if not both) won't like it. He can't win, as I'm sure he knows, and as a result he doesn't dwell on it much.

 

[Airport]

Go tell that to black people. They'll tell you that not only has he done that stuff that you say he hasn't done, but that he's done too much of it. That's the whole problem, namely no matter what he says or does on race at least one side (if not both) won't like it. He can't win, as I'm sure he knows, and as a result he doesn't dwell on it much.

Do you really believe it? He has yet to go to Chicago to speak directly to the problem. He has been completely absent about the black on black crime which is far more prevelant than white cop on black problem. Believe what you want, but I would ask you to point out the many speeches he's made on race relations. He's been completely silent on the matter unless he can benefit from some perceived white on black problem. He's been a racist as far as I'm concern and probably a bigot.

 

[op2]

Do you really believe it? He has yet to go to Chicago to speak directly to the problem. He has been completely absent about the black on black crime which is far more prevelant than white cop on black problem. Believe what you want, but I would ask you to point out the many speeches he's made on race relations. He's been completely silent on the matter unless he can benefit from some perceived white on black problem. He's been a racist as far as I'm concern and probably a bigot.

Considering blacks are a minority, if he wanted to benefit from some perceived white on black problem wouldn't he side with the majority whites? A minority POTUS pissing off the majority group would just be dumb.

Google and see what people like Cornel West think of Obama. They think he hasn't helped black people enough.

 

[Airport]

Considering blacks are a minority, if he wanted to benefit from some perceived white on black problem wouldn't he side with the majority whites? A minority POTUS pissing off the majority group would just be dumb.

Google and see what people like Cornel West think of Obama. They think he hasn't helped black people enough.

I know West, people like him are the problem.

 

[dave]

What President was CIC when Bin Laden was taken out? Pesky facts.

Here are more facts. Idiot!

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...ia-more-than-150-killed/ar-BBqrytL?li=BBnb7Kz

Who was President when terrorists killed a sitting US Ambassador?

 

[countryroads89_rivals]

Who was President when terrorists killed a sitting US Ambassador?

Who was President when over 3,000 people were killed in NYC? You're an idiot.

 

[Airport]

Who was President when over 3,000 people were killed in NYC? You're an idiot.

You both are acting like idiots. Obama benefitted from the very agency that liberals hate. Bush wasn't to blame for 9/11 and Obama only carried out what thousands of people worked for decades to achieve. The attack on Benghazi wasn't anybodys fault, our response and blame has been the subject of much debate. Second guessing always wiil be.