Offense

[SnohomishRed]

this offense has been waiting to explode and imo just did. Minn actually had a decent run defense and we ran for almost 400 yards. Martinez started great against cu and since his return from injury has just gotten better and better each game.

Many times a team leaps forward on one side of the ball only to have the other side follow shortly. While we still have big holes on defense effort can cover many of those and I suspect with the way our offense is starting to click we see a much better effort on defense to finish out the season.

As brutal as this stretch has been, we have found an AA caliber QB and several other budding stars on offense. Now we need to start seeing the turnaround on defense.

 

[Huskerwisdom]

You can really see the potential in Frost's offense, especially with a guy like Martinez playing QB. we have some holes, but we'll be one of the top offenses in the B10 relatively soon, IMO

 

[SoFL Husker]

Meh. Minnesota was tired.

Next year we replace some descent OL, who are playing in the right position now. Imagine if we had started Farmer at center to start the year, and given him all the off-season reps. That was a big time personnel phuck up.

Morgan is gone. Need Nance and Wandale to be immediate impact guys. I think we are ok at RB. We should be better, but those OL pieces have to come together, and we'll have zero depth, again.

 

[Huskerwisdom]

Meh. Minnesota was tired.

Next year we replace some descent OL, who are playing in the right position now. Imagine if we had started Farmer at center to start the year, and given him all the off-season reps. That was a big time personnel phuck up.

Morgan is gone. Need Nance and Wandale to be immediate impact guys. I think we are ok at RB. We should be better, but those OL pieces have to come together, and we'll have zero depth, again.

Right, so they were tired.. (FWIW, that's not what Fleck said about the game. He said he was outcoached)

We have to replace Farmer and Foster. Foster really isn't a great fit for this O, but Farmer is good (despite quickness limitations for this offense), but I am comfortable we'll find someone to replace him by start of year.

I don't see having farmer start at Guard as a screw up. We were putting in an entirely new blocking scheme and Boe Wilson needed time to take the job. Frost was very clear that the best 5 were going to play. Now that Wilson's one of those 5, Farmer slides to center.

Depth in the OL will be very good next year. 7/10 in the two deep back and several who are said to be impressing already.

 

[steelclaw_rivals321686]

Right, so they were tired.. (FWIW, that's not what Fleck said about the game. He said he was outcoached)

We have to replace Farmer and Foster. Foster really isn't a great fit for this O, but Farmer is good (despite quickness limitations for this offense), but I am comfortable we'll find someone to replace him by start of year.

I don't see having farmer start at Guard as a screw up. We were putting in an entirely new blocking scheme and Boe Wilson needed time to take the job. Frost was very clear that the best 5 were going to play. Now that Wilson's one of those 5, Farmer slides to center.

Depth in the OL will be very good next year. 7/10 in the two deep back and several who are said to be impressing already.

Lol Minnesota wasn’t tired. Ignore that tripe.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Right, so they were tired.. (FWIW, that's not what Fleck said about the game. He said he was outcoached)

We have to replace Farmer and Foster. Foster really isn't a great fit for this O, but Farmer is good (despite quickness limitations for this offense), but I am comfortable we'll find someone to replace him by start of year.

I don't see having farmer start at Guard as a screw up. We were putting in an entirely new blocking scheme and Boe Wilson needed time to take the job. Frost was very clear that the best 5 were going to play. Now that Wilson's one of those 5, Farmer slides to center.

Depth in the OL will be very good next year. 7/10 in the two deep back and several who are said to be impressing already.

5 best, with Conrad, completely obliterates and negates your opinion, as that guy sucks at center. Sorry, try again.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Lol Minnesota wasn’t tired. Ignore that tripe.

Isn't tripe a soup?

 

[Huskerwisdom]

5 best, with Conrad, completely obliterates and negates your opinion, as that guy sucks at center. Sorry, try again.

you claiming Minnesota was tired completely obliterates your opinion.

Next.

 

[barney44]

Who cares if they were tired? That tends to happen when you allow a team to break big play after big play.

We certainly didn’t go up 28-0 because of fatigue rather we did everything right for a change.

 

[SoFL Husker]

you claiming Minnesota was tired completely obliterates your opinion.

Next.

They just got done playing tOSU.

How do you think Purdue feels today?

That's a top 10 team that plays physical football.

Denying that is stupid.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Who cares if they were tired? That tends to happen when you allow a team to break big play after big play.

We certainly didn’t go up 28-0 because of fatigue rather we did everything right for a change.

Look, it is a great win, but let's try not to sunshine pump anymore. It makes Nebraska fans look stupid. We're definitely not.

Delusional, yes, but not stupid.

 

[barney44]

How do you think Purdue feels today?

Like winners....

 

[barney44]

Look, it is a great win, but let's try not to sunshine pump anymore. It makes Nebraska fans look stupid. We're definitely not.

Delusional, yes, but not stupid.

How is that pumping sunshine?

 

[Headcard]

Look, it is a great win, but let's try not to sunshine pump anymore. It makes Nebraska fans look stupid. We're definitely not.

Delusional, yes, but not stupid.

Someone does sound stupid here.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Like winners....

Amazing how speed in a Frost-like spread offense can take the pants off a team like tOSU.

Our future is bright, IF FROST GETS THE RIGHT WEAPONS.

I am hopeful he can. He's got the pedigree. I haven't questioned the scheme or the hire (OC and HC), though some mistakes have been made, the ship looks a lot better here. GBR

 

[SnohomishRed]

Look, it is a great win, but let's try not to sunshine pump anymore. It makes Nebraska fans look stupid. We're definitely not.

Delusional, yes, but not stupid.

It is not sunshine pumping to look at the progress our offense is making. It is not just one game it is the system and players and specifically that we have a QB who is 18 years old lighting up Big 10 defenses. That is something to be excited about now if our defense can start showing signs of life the season could end on a high note

 

[SoFL Husker]

Someone does sound stupid here.

Ask the Michigan DC.

This is where some sort of Husker Freeboard Tribe starts pumping sunshine like Warner and McQuitty are going to be "world beaters" next year and we have 7 solid OL ready to go asap. Lol

 

[Headcard]

Amazing how speed in a Frost-like spread offense can take the pants off a team like tOSU.

Our future is bright, IF FROST GETS THE RIGHT WEAPONS.

I am hopeful he can. He's got the pedigree. I haven't questioned the scheme or the hire (OC and HC), though some mistakes have been made, the ship looks a lot better here. GBR

Of course mistakes have been made, get over it. No one is claiming otherwise. But things are starting to get sorted out and fall into place. Found a punter, kick returner, punter returner, how to use Washington, Farmer at center. It is getting there.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

The offense looked great and the point total was commensurate with the total yards for roughly the first time all year.

Every offense is going to struggle against Michigan - the next test for this offense will be how it performs against Iowa, MSU and OSU.

The offense needs to keep us in these games.

 

[SoFL Husker]

Of course mistakes have been made, get over it. No one is claiming otherwise. But things are starting to get sorted out and fall into place. Found a punter, kick returner, punter returner, how to use Washington, Farmer at center. It is getting there.

Absolutely.

Jurgens (sp?) to center next year will be key, I hope that kid can get ready right away.

I am already looking ahead, and see a lot of holes to fill, in order to get a lot better.

This year, I think the offense is going to be as good as it can be. On that front, this year, I think we finally got it figured out.

 

[Headcard]

Ask the Michigan DC.

This is where some sort of Husker Freeboard Tribe starts pumping sunshine like Warner and McQuitty are going to be "world beaters" next year and we have 7 solid OL ready to go asap. Lol

OK, I call him up. We have got better every game since the Michigan debacle and I think it will continue to.

That’s a cute shot at the freeboard, but no one has actually said any of those things on this board, that I have seen, but thanks for the reality check.

I, personally, think this offense will be very good sooner than later. We lose Farmer and Foseter, but Bland will take one of those spots the three Sophomores are our best OL right now. We lack the outside threats at WR and receiving threats at TE and will only get better if we can get some of those guys, but we do have a nice core of skill players non the less.

 

[Bremser_rivals74172]

Lol Minnesota wasn’t tired. Ignore that tripe.

Isn't tripe a soup?

Double meaning. Not a soup, rather cow stomach. ...a delicacy in Italy and many other countries.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Nebraska is going to have to prove it against MSU or Iowa before I get too worried. Minnesota was awful yesterday and out of position, especially on Ozigbo’s first TD run. That’s not going to happen against Iowa, ask Maryland.

Nebraska is still averaging well under 30 PPG.

 

[SoFL Husker]

OK, I call him up. We have got better every game since the Michigan debacle and I think it will continue to.

That’s a cute shot at the freeboard, but no one has actually said any of those things on this board, that I have seen, but thanks for the reality check.

I, personally, think this offense will be very good sooner than later. We lose Farmer and Foseter, but Bland will take one of those spots the three Sophomores are our best OL right now. We lack the outside threats at WR and receiving threats at TE and will only get better if we can get some of those guys, but we do have a nice core of skill players non the less.

I vehemently disagree at the WR spot. Morgan and JD have finally shown what they can do with solid OL play, against an average secondary. Everyone behind them is a huge ???

I think we need 3 WR and another RB in this class, and I hope the RB is more of a slot guy (not including Wandale, who hopefully is one of the 3 WR). That's 4 brand new impact skill guys on campus.

So if we lose 1-2 scholly receivers on the current roster, well, that's called good attrition.

 

[CameronKrazie86]

4 games now with over 500 yds of offense in year 1 with a true freshman QB. Most of the guys on offense were recruited for a different scheme but are being coached up to excel in a new one. I am very encouraged by the progress even if the win/loss record doesn't show it.

 

[SoFL Husker]

OK, I call him up. We have got better every game since the Michigan debacle and I think it will continue to.

That’s a cute shot at the freeboard, but no one has actually said any of those things on this board, that I have seen, but thanks for the reality check.

I, personally, think this offense will be very good sooner than later. We lose Farmer and Foseter, but Bland will take one of those spots the three Sophomores are our best OL right now. We lack the outside threats at WR and receiving threats at TE and will only get better if we can get some of those guys, but we do have a nice core of skill players non the less.

Dude, the guy in this thread is claiming our OL is 7 deep next year and there is sunshine pump all over re: "guys waiting for a chance." Color me skeptical.

Purdue won because they had big time homerun threats at the skill positions, and Frost needs them too. The good thing is, I think that is one place he can recruit with anybody in the country, sans your NFL prototypes, who end up elsewhere.

What we do need are burners, not 4.55 40 times that are a bunch of hype. Outside of JD, I don't think we run that well at WR right now. It's a concern.

 

[Huskerwisdom]

Nebraska is going to have to prove it against MSU or Iowa before I get too worried. Minnesota was awful yesterday and out of position, especially on Ozigbo’s first TD run. That’s not going to happen against Iowa, ask Maryland.

Nebraska is still averaging well under 30 PPG.

Um, the point of Frost's offense is to put people out of position. If you look at the success they've had (outside of a disastrous Michigan game and including a game and more where we played a walk-on backup QB) they've been very good. Currently putting up 471 yards a game, ,including 219 on the ground with a 5.4 rushing per attempt.

Since Michigan
582 yards - Purdue
518 yards versus Wiscy
482 yards versus NW
659 yards versus Minnesota

This isn't really a fluke anymore. A healthy Martinez and an offensive unit that is more comfortable with the offense is going to put up many yards and a lot of points.

 

[HCHTown]

It was a breathe of fresh air to see AM not have to retreat for his life from unblocked defenders (or essentially unblocked).

Give him half a chance and he will beat you.

 

[Hard4Corn]

I think Mike Williams is coming on now. Saw him make a key block yesterday. With his strength and athleticism he will be dangerous very soon.

 

[SnohomishRed]

Um, the point of Frost's offense is to put people out of position. If you look at the success they've had (outside of a disastrous Michigan game and including a game and more where we played a walk-on backup QB) they've been very good. Currently putting up 471 yards a game, ,including 219 on the ground with a 5.4 rushing per attempt.

Since Michigan
582 yards - Purdue
518 yards versus Wiscy
482 yards versus NW
659 yards versus Minnesota

This isn't really a fluke anymore. A healthy Martinez and an offensive unit that is more comfortable with the offense is going to put up many yards and a lot of points.

That is exactly my point - This offense with Martinez is pretty dynamic. Now the points have not always been there due to untimely mistakes but this kid is pretty good and getting better by the game. In Frosts offense with a top quality QB it is dangerous and we now have that component

 

[Headcard]

I vehemently disagree at the WR spot. Morgan and JD have finally shown what they can do with solid OL play, against an average secondary. Everyone behind them is a huge ???

I think we need 3 WR and another RB in this class, and I hope the RB is more of a slot guy (not including Wandale, who hopefully is one of the 3 WR). That's 4 brand new impact skill guys on campus.

So if we lose 1-2 scholly receivers on the current roster, well, that's called good attrition.

JD is a stud and we will have him for 2 more years, in the slot. What we need are outside WR that can stretch the field and make plays, and TE too. I also don’t see slot hybrid guys as a need, we have JD, Miles Jones, plus commits like Johnson and possibly Robinson. We really need guys on the outside, especially losing Morgan who accounts for almost all our production on the outside.

 

[Jimmy Frank]

They just got done playing tOSU.

How do you think Purdue feels today?

That's a top 10 team that plays physical football.

Denying that is stupid.

Can’t use bad officiating as an excuse but tired is ok.

 

[jlb321_rivals110621]

Um, the point of Frost's offense is to put people out of position. If you look at the success they've had (outside of a disastrous Michigan game and including a game and more where we played a walk-on backup QB) they've been very good. Currently putting up 471 yards a game, ,including 219 on the ground with a 5.4 rushing per attempt.

Since Michigan
582 yards - Purdue
518 yards versus Wiscy
482 yards versus NW
659 yards versus Minnesota

This isn't really a fluke anymore. A healthy Martinez and an offensive unit that is more comfortable with the offense is going to put up many yards and a lot of points.

The problem hasn’t been yards - it has been points. Going into the game the offense was ranked 96th in the nation in the only offensive stat that really matters - points per game.

Great to see all those yards show up on the scoreboard.

 

[SWIowahawks_rivals44758]

Um, the point of Frost's offense is to put people out of position. If you look at the success they've had (outside of a disastrous Michigan game and including a game and more where we played a walk-on backup QB) they've been very good. Currently putting up 471 yards a game, ,including 219 on the ground with a 5.4 rushing per attempt.

Since Michigan
582 yards - Purdue
518 yards versus Wiscy
482 yards versus NW
659 yards versus Minnesota

This isn't really a fluke anymore. A healthy Martinez and an offensive unit that is more comfortable with the offense is going to put up many yards and a lot of points.

I guess hanging your hat on gaining yards while down 17 consistently against Wisconsin and 14 against Purdue is one way to stay positive. Minnesota is atrocious and my prediction of a Nebraska blowout came true.

Take a look at Ozigbo’s two long TD runs, it was absolutely horrible defense. Maryland ran for 350 yards against Minnesota and 68 against Iowa. I’m not saying Nebraska won’t prove to have a potent offense, but they need to do it against Iowa, MSU, or even OSU.

 

[Huskerwisdom]

I guess hanging your hat on gaining yards while down 17 consistently against Wisconsin and 14 against Purdue is one way to stay positive. Minnesota is atrocious and my prediction of a Nebraska blowout came true.

Take a look at Ozigbo’s two long TD runs, it was absolutely horrible defense. Maryland ran for 350 yards against Minnesota and 68 against Iowa. I’m not saying Nebraska won’t prove to have a potent offense, but they need to do it against Iowa, MSU, or even OSU.

Most of the long runs in that offense look like horrible defense. The reality is that he stretches the field from sideline to sideline with enough passing to keep the safeties honest, and then figures out which gap(s) he wants to manipulate. Add in the pre-snap movement to pull the defenders out of particular pockets and you have a great concept for making defenses look stupid.

Wait until we can do the guard pulling schemes he has had in the past and until Martinez is a bit older, and this offense will be even better

 

[Huskerwisdom]

The problem hasn’t been yards - it has been points. Going into the game the offense was ranked 96th in the nation in the only offensive stat that really matters - points per game.

Great to see all those yards show up on the scoreboard.

as I noted in the OL thread - we've had breakdowns all over the offense. The penalties are noticeable, but blocking not being coordinated or missing a defender, the TE or WR not getting an effective block or the RB/QB not reading the holes correctly. We've had those things happen and they shut us down from moving the chains.

And the WR missing a block turns a potential long gain (making the defense look stupid) into a shorter gain. There's a lot that has to come together for Frost's offense to click, but when it works, it's exceptional

 

[Huskerwisdom]

...

Wait until we can do the guard pulling schemes he has had in the past and until Martinez is a bit older, and this offense will be even better

A bit of video on a power play Frost did when he was OC at Oregon.

https://cdn.fishduck.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Power-Play-TD.gif

I think he did some concepts like this last year at UCF also, but it takes a while to get the linemen past the base zone blocking he wants and into things like this -- you also need linemen who move well in space

 

[bshirt73]

It was a breathe of fresh air to see AM not have to retreat for his life from unblocked defenders (or essentially unblocked).

Give him half a chance and he will beat you.

Damn straight.

 

[AFTray]

Nebraska is going to have to prove it against MSU or Iowa before I get too worried. Minnesota was awful yesterday and out of position, especially on Ozigbo’s first TD run. That’s not going to happen against Iowa, ask Maryland.

Nebraska is still averaging well under 30 PPG.

Maybe ask Iowa or Ohio St. about Minny's run defense. Iowa averaged 2.7 yards a carry. Nebraska is averaging 70 more yards and 3 points less a game than Iowa.

 

[Headcard]

Maybe ask Iowa or Ohio St. about Minny's run defense.

I do seem to remember several Hawkeyes on this board telling us how good Minnesota’s run defense was, prior to Saturday’s game.