All teams, including good teams, have off-days. Hopefully the USA game was an off-day. But to get back to being a consistently good program Frost and staff are going to have to find a way to make those the exception. I would hate to see us lose to CU because we had another off-day. While it won't be the end of the world, it would sting - this is a program that has had one winning season in the past 13, and one we need to/and should beat.
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Sure they will be...for the first few games. And maybe more if they are younger guys. In this case Jurgens hasn't been able to practice nearly as much as any other OLineman. He was also held out of the Spring game if I remember correctly, so he is really behind in terms of reps.
He just needs a lot more reps in general and to feel more at ease with playing after being injured for the better part of 2 years. Don't know if he will hold up over the long haul, but it would appear that he is the most athletic of any of the centers we have.
Losing to CU, one of the worst 2 or 3 teams in the Pac12, doesn't bode well for us finishing with a winning record in the B1G.
The returning players didn't do any better than the new players. Wisconsin had 4 new guys on their O line and they did just fine. It's a poor excuse to have crappy line play just because you have 2 new starters. It's college football, guys only have 4 years to play so I think 2 new starters is pretty typical throughout college football.
Seems to me, most of the players we play against are scholarship players.
It also occurs to me that coaches make good money in this game.
It's proven in history, bad games happen, great games happen, first games are often feel out your team games,fix the kinks games.
No one told us how good of a coach the usa coach is. No one told us that possibly changing their entire defense, possibly for this one game, and just how important this game was to usa.
If they'd won, it would have been their superbowl.
Have we forgotten? We used to have a target on our backs, always got many teams best.
The old saying, in order to be the man, you have to beat the man was applicable in this game.
Now, this game, what's changed? Other than making a young coaching staff and teams year?
Well, how about some revenge? Thats just how our guys are viewing this game. You're hearing it loud and clear from our defense, as our offense has only been quiet because they know they played poorly, and who played poorly as well. They need to earn it, and everything weve witnessed from this staff, some of the players in this offense, theyve shown they can and more.
So, go out and earn it!
GBR!!
It also occurs to me that coaches make good money in this game.
It's proven in history, bad games happen, great games happen, first games are often feel out your team games,fix the kinks games.
No one told us how good of a coach the usa coach is. No one told us that possibly changing their entire defense, possibly for this one game, and just how important this game was to usa.
If they'd won, it would have been their superbowl.
Have we forgotten? We used to have a target on our backs, always got many teams best.
The old saying, in order to be the man, you have to beat the man was applicable in this game.
Now, this game, what's changed? Other than making a young coaching staff and teams year?
Well, how about some revenge? Thats just how our guys are viewing this game. You're hearing it loud and clear from our defense, as our offense has only been quiet because they know they played poorly, and who played poorly as well. They need to earn it, and everything weve witnessed from this staff, some of the players in this offense, theyve shown they can and more.
So, go out and earn it!
GBR!!
I’d agree in most cases but we’re not exactly in Wisconsins position here. We keep going back to the drawing board while they’re in a position to fine tune something that already works up there. We don’t have the luxury of their stability right now so new guys on the line will affect us more than it would them.
Starting Oline for possibly the greatest team ever in college FB.
Dishman RS Jr. from NE
Taylor RS Soph. from TX
Graham RS Sr. from TX
Ott RS Sr. from NE
Anderson RS Jr. from NE
The guys starting on the Oline today are not significantly inferior in talent to those listed above. But they are only in the second year of a developmental system that compares to the one that was in existence for years before guys like Graham and Taylor ever played a down at NU. And keep in mind that even really good Olinemen routinely spent three years in the program before they saw significant snaps. A lot is being asked of Cam and the younger Farniok.
So yes, it's still a little like Groundhog Day wrt the Oline at NU. I suspect they'll play with more verve this Saturday. And they'll need to for the team to win in Boulder.
Dishman RS Jr. from NE
Taylor RS Soph. from TX
Graham RS Sr. from TX
Ott RS Sr. from NE
Anderson RS Jr. from NE
The guys starting on the Oline today are not significantly inferior in talent to those listed above. But they are only in the second year of a developmental system that compares to the one that was in existence for years before guys like Graham and Taylor ever played a down at NU. And keep in mind that even really good Olinemen routinely spent three years in the program before they saw significant snaps. A lot is being asked of Cam and the younger Farniok.
So yes, it's still a little like Groundhog Day wrt the Oline at NU. I suspect they'll play with more verve this Saturday. And they'll need to for the team to win in Boulder.
I don't know if many teams have guys this young stepping in to fill vacated spots though. And with Jurgens, it's more a matter of not getting that many reps between spring and fall camp. I hope he got a ton of reps this week, because he needs to improve substantially very quickly.
Putting two guys, or three, side by side in their first ever game as rsfrosh is tough to pull off, especially at center, and especially under the circumstances with Cam and his injuries.
Having your qb playing his worst game ever doesnt help, add in a rb who doesnt have the feel for the team quite yet, and yes, theres going to be problems. Period.
All are fixable, most ,as in AM will come quickly, with snaps, it'll get better, as it all will with repetition.
Having your qb playing his worst game ever doesnt help, add in a rb who doesnt have the feel for the team quite yet, and yes, theres going to be problems. Period.
All are fixable, most ,as in AM will come quickly, with snaps, it'll get better, as it all will with repetition.
Since this is a good point, maybe the O-Line needs to hang out together 24 hours a day and do some extra work so they can get to know each player's play style and become brothers in arms, as in how '94 did it.