Offesive and defensive lines

heidiho99

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Starts and ends there...weak, inferior talent...coaches recruited poorly and haven't proved they can develop any talent
 

mrhotdice

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With the exception of Toth I agree.
In my mind, it takes decades to develop an DL if your lucky. Kids getting hurt, kids leaving the program, UK has to be lucky to ever get an SEC capable line. Just look at Hatcher. He leaves or is thrown off the team but either way he did not have anyone to replace him. The same with Other players that have left. So if you recruit 10 lineman both offense or defense and don't red shirt them half will be gone in two years. Look at Hyde, a good UK kid but he never plays. To me the big problem is that Stoops plays a 3-4 defense that requires depth which is UKs Achilles heal. UK should hold tryouts for DL in the state. Walk on or not their are kids from small,schools that have the attitude to win but because of ratings never become players. These kids go to Western and do well but are never even looked at by UK.
 

Kingebeneezer

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In my mind, it takes decades to develop an DL if your lucky. Kids getting hurt, kids leaving the program, UK has to be lucky to ever get an SEC capable line. Just look at Hatcher. He leaves or is thrown off the team but either way he did not have anyone to replace him. The same with Other players that have left. So if you recruit 10 lineman both offense or defense and don't red shirt them half will be gone in two years. Look at Hyde, a good UK kid but he never plays. To me the big problem is that Stoops plays a 3-4 defense that requires depth which is UKs Achilles heal. UK should hold tryouts for DL in the state. Walk on or not their are kids from small,schools that have the attitude to win but because of ratings never become players. These kids go to Western and do well but are never even looked at by UK.
It doesn't take decades to develop a decent dline. Teams field decent dlines every season and it sure as hell didn't take them decades to do it.
 

heidiho99

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Scores seem to say otherwise....recruit and develop Olines Clones...win football games
 

howercat

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telling you, uk players must not be doing enough roids or hgh. Look at all the other los players from rest of SEC, they're just bigger.
 

JulesCamara=GOD

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For D Line, you saw it against Southern Miss and Florida. Run the ball for big yardage per downs. Force us to back the box. Play action, air it out for a big catch. Rinse, repeat. Our O Line should be better, maybe a lack of development, but we had some solid O Lines IIRC with Coach Brooks.
 

JW PRPcoach

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I cannot speak on the Oline - don't know enough about it. Tackle position is a huge concern, and the guard play hasn't been very consistent.

D-line, however, is more technique and system than anything.
On another thread I talked about hearing Eliot speak about their 3-4 scheme.
Our 3 downlinemen are taught to engage the blocker and read both their right/left - what's called a "two-gap" player. I won't rehash my entire post, but a guy like Elam, that is constantly bashed on here for "lazy" play, is just doing what he has been told to do. At 6-6 or 6-7, him standing up to read the backfield is not putting him in a position to succeed, no matter how hard he tries.
I just have a feeling that this staff will live or die with the Stoops 3-4 and it's looking like a slow, painful death.
I hope that he can get the ship righted but the sea looks rough.
 
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uksam21

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Schlarman has to go at this point. The offensive line have talent and they haven't been developed.