Official PSU - Clemson '25 Pinstripe Bowl game thread

KingLando

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I enjoyed watching Grunk make throws today that Allar spent 4 years being scared to make.
The hatred of Allar on this board is just laughable
Sadly Grunk will be hated as soon as he becomes the starter...people already starting because he doesn't run enough.
 

Catch1lion

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Sleep well tonight . Buckle up for some roster moves ahead . Trust the process . 😉

Enjoy that morning cup of Joe . He flipped back .
 
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Ludd

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The hatred of Allar on this board is just laughable
Sadly Grunk will be hated as soon as he becomes the starter...people already starting because he doesn't run enough.
I don’t hate him, I would just like to have a more mobile QB. If he wins games, I will be totally on board with him.
 

MacNit

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I’m happy with what Terry has accomplished but he really would have been legendary if we would have been able to keep the core of the recruiting class intact. That was the most disappointing aspect of his tenure.
We’ll upgrade on what originally committed. Mostly Charmin soft.
 

NoBareFeet

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The hatred of Allar on this board is just laughable
Sadly Grunk will be hated as soon as he becomes the starter...people already starting because he doesn't run enough.
Suck my cock, Lando. PSU won the biggest game of the season behind a great performance behind Ethan. If Allar played, PSU likely loses. Thankfully we have a better quarterback behind center now. Great great win for the boys.
 

NoBareFeet

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Proud of the team's effort today. Great win. I'd love to hear Terry come out and talk bad about the kids that sat out. Seriously. The kids that played today were true Penn Staters. The kids that didn't, not so much. Can't stand giving these kids a free pass that quit on the team. That nonsense needs to stop.

Pinstripe Bowl champions. Love it!
 
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Alphalion75

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I’m worried the DL room gets hard to portal but there are a bunch of young guys I like. Kemajou, Blanding, Gilliam, Wafle, Harvey. Throw in Granville, pretty strong. Maybe need a depth piece or two in the portal.

I really hope we can keep Campbell and Rojas. Those two with Tatsche and Wylie? All of a sudden that room looks good again. Need a LB in the portal though.

Young secondary played great today. Dixon is an absolute stud and must keep. Lane, Mack, and ABS at safety is a deep core.
We can only hope. But in this current crazy college football environment, I have no expectations.
 

MacNit

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The hatred of Allar on this board is just laughable
Sadly Grunk will be hated as soon as he becomes the starter...people already starting because he doesn't run enough.
Hatred is a strong word.

No animosity…but Allar was a complete underachiever in every meaningful game that he played.
 
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KingLando

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Suck my cock, Lando. PSU won the biggest game of the season behind a great performance behind Ethan. If Allar played, PSU likely loses. Thankfully we have a better quarterback behind center now. Great great win for the boys.
They won a scrimmage
Grunk >>>>> Beau so it's great Beau left
Biggest game of the season lol
 

KingLando

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Hatred is a strong word.

No animosity…but Allar was a complete underachiever in every meaningful game that he played.
The supporting cast played a large role in that along with the absurd way Franklin wanted his QBs to play. Imagine blaming any pro style QB for not having success with AK's play calling. It's illogical.

I was Grunk biggest fan before the season and thrilled with how he played. Lots of that had to do with getting rid of James.
 

RochLion

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Martin and Hayes look like they could be a very effective 1-2 punch.

I was also impressed with the OL play - 4/5 opt outs but Cousins/Shanahan/Donkoh could be a really solid core next year. I thought Boyer held up okay as well, just needs an offseason to bulk up.

If we keep Rapp/Reynolds, then the TE room is in really good hands. They complement each other much better than Dink.

Outside of Howard, we’re going to need to go portal heavy at WR. I know they liked a couple of the FR that didn’t play this year, but I’d imagine we get hit hard in that room to the portal.
Don't know why we didn't use Reynolds more this year. Seems to have some elusiveness and quickness as a receiver. Then again we didn't use Dinkins as much as I thought we would either.
 

KingLando

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That’s like saying a pop quiz doesn’t matter because it’s not a test…it still affects your overall grade.
Not an accurate comp at all
This absurd notion that winning a bowl game matters is laughable and I think you actually know that.
 

Bvillebaron

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Has Becht beaten such teams?

It's one thing to bring in a QB that is proven at a high level, but from where I sit I'm not sure that Becht is some substantial improvement over Grunk and Grunk has 3 years to develop. And honestly would cost less in NIL money to retain so would allow for more resources to fill holes elsewhere.

Oh, so the good teams on your schedule that you have to beat? Is Grunk beating Michigan and USC next year? Is he beating OSU and Oregon? That’s the next level. Is he the next level.

I’m just saying Grunk hasn’t beaten anyone of note. Yes, he has gotten better as the year wore on. And he was excellent today - against a 7-6 team with 24 opt outs.

I hope I’ve posted here enough that people wouldn’t label me a hater or a troll. I’m just being realistic about the facts of Grunk’s season.

Was I over emotional and critical during the Iowa/OSU/Indiana stretch? Yep, I’ll admit it. But I’m still not crowning him the guy yet. If Campbell likes Becht or another kid in the portal, I’ll trust him.
Becht is 26-13 as a 3 year starter in the Big 12. Becht has never played defenses as good as this year’s OSU and Indiana defenses period. Look up his stats and you will see he has been very inconsistent and has had several truly lousy games. What exactly is it that apparently has you sold on Becht? He started 3 years under the new coach?
 

Bvillebaron

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Yes, I guess I am.

The goal is to win the BIG and the natty. The most important position in football is the QB. Based on this year’s sample, do you think Grunk does that? He played well against bad teams and bad against good teams - those really are the facts as of today.

He’s young and has some room for growth - that’s the biggest key. If you can pull a highly rated QB from the portal and pay Grunk to sit a year or so… that may be the best path.

Im not crowning Grunk the second coming based off a win against a mediocre Clemson with 24 opt outs.
But you are crowning a kid who is 26-13 in the Big 12. If my math is correct that’s a .667 winning percentage which equates to an 8-4 season. Here’s a clue for you: 8-4 doesn’t get you in the Big Ten Championship game or playoffs.