Official PSU - tOSU '25 game thread

[PSUAVLNC]

What is there remaining to say? Nothing. tOSU looked like Penn State 94 on offense and Penn State 85-86 on defense. tOSU pays big to their players and it shows upon the field.

Penn State football is toast, a beaten team. This is.a.project team and it needs a ground up rebuild.

If I'm a Penn State senior with a shot in the draft, do I really want to even play in the remaining games? I'd have to say "nope".

 

[ChandlerPearce58]

I said he took liberties. Don't put ******* words in my mouth, *******. So fine, I'll ******* say it -- any player that goes for the head like Downs did is a dirty piece of ****. There, you happy now? Get bent.

WOW! All those big boy words showing proving your masculinity and depth of your vocabulary.....while I agree with your assessment as does most others, your retort loses influence with gutter trash talking.

 

[BobPSU92]

We’re in their heads.

 

[AvgUser]

Will someone find and resurrect brushwood’s thread in game one talking about OSU greatly overrated QB and offense.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

You win Rice-a-roni , a $25 gift certificate to the Lazy J, and Gus Johnson’s outfit from today .

I told 2 and his fiancé that’s my wedding outfit

 

[Bvillebaron]

Bang bang plays like that happen all the time--it doesn't make someone dirty. Using this then almost every defensive player who ever played the game was dirty

I see where JJ Watt said that was one of the worst targeting he has seen but what the hell does he know about football?

 

[KingLando]

I see where JJ Watt said that was one of the worst targeting he has seen but what the hell does he know about football?

No one is defending the hit
It should have been targeting. I said yesterday they can't call it correctly so they need to change the rule
Downs had less than a second to react to that. If a Penn State player hit someone in that spot no one would call him dirty
This is all because Downs is elite and on Ohio State so you're mad because of the non call and attacking the player. He didn't make the call.
In 1986 that hit is praised by the way as tough football by the way

 

[Bvillebaron]

Yeah I don’t understand that at all. Plus don’t kid yourself, Franklin wins two games to end the year and the same crowd will cry 8 more years and scream that “people deserve better” than 5-7. It’s also beneficial to see if you do have an in house coach already in waiting (spoiler: we don’t). Nothing was lost by the move mid season or at the end of this one. The program has rot in all parts of the foundation. Time to clean it out and start over.

That would be the same rot that was a few plays from playing in the National Championship game last year right? There’s something rotting here but there’s far less of it in the football program than in the minds of certain posters.

 

[Bvillebaron]

It's honestly ridiculous that anyone is trying to claim he's a dirty player. You clearly don't watch him often.

You and others are mad that targeting was overturned and are unfairly attacking the player instead of the inability of those to enforce the rules.

Headshots will always exist in football. They game is too fast to eliminate them completely. The NFL handles it far better.

We aren’t claiming he is a dirty player; we are simply saying it was obviously targeting and a dirty play late in a blow out game. As noted elsewhere even JJ Watt said it was clearly targeting.

 

[Ludd]

I don’t think it has anything to do with them being Indiana. That’s just his coaching personality and part of why his teams win. He has no mercy and wants to stomp on the opponent no matter what the score is or how much time is left. I love that attitude and wish we had it.

We did and Franklin got bashed for it.

 

[Bvillebaron]

His QBR of 82 today would put him in the top 15 in the country overall. And that’s against the #1 defense. His line couldn’t block and it was only his 2nd start but I always look to you to help form my opinions so maybe you’re right.

You can have whatever opinion you want but Grunk is slower afoot than Allar and didn’t come within 5 yards on any of the throws he made while getting out of the pocket.

 

[KingLando]

We aren’t claiming he is a dirty player; we are simply saying it was obviously targeting and a dirty play late in a blow out game. As noted elsewhere even JJ Watt said it was clearly targeting.

Yes...some have said specifically he's a dirty player which is nonsense
It wasn't a dirty play...this is the probably
It was targeting...those things happen at games played at this speed.
Instead of trying to attack him just say the refs blew the call

 

[Ludd]

No one is defending the hit
It should have been targeting. I said yesterday they can't call it correctly so they need to change the rule
Downs had less than a second to react to that. If a Penn State player hit someone in that spot no one would call him dirty
This is all because Downs is elite and on Ohio State so you're mad because of the non call and attacking the player. He didn't make the call.
In 1986 that hit is praised by the way as tough football by the way

But the Penn State player would have been called for targeting and booted out of the game…that’s where the annoyance comes from.

 

[KingLando]

But the Penn State player would have been called for targeting and booted out of the game…that’s where the annoyance comes from.

And that's a completely different argument that has nothing to do with Downs...I have no problem with that claim at all. I just think attacking Downs because the refs screwed up is absurd.

 

[BobPSU92]

The real real reason we’re pissed is that had the Tosu defender been called for targeting, we would have only lost by 17 points instead of 24.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Everyone has mailed it in. That secondary performance was horrible. We supposedly had talent in our secondary but you would never know it. Yes OSU has two top 5-10 WRs but you still gotta be better than that. That was bottom feeder B10 level which we clearly are. I also blame Knowles for confusing everyone on defense and not adapting.

So Knowles confusing the players explains why veteran DBs let OSU receivers get 5 or more yards behind them on not one, not two but three plays (my god on one of them OSU screwed up and had two receivers in the same area and BOTH of them were 5 yards beyond the last defender one of whom was a TE. I played DB in high school and learned in midget football that you keep receivers in FRONT of you (instead of letting them get 5 or more yards behind you and hoping the QB misses the throw or the receiver drops the ball). Do players who are constantly screw up EVER get any blame for anything at Penn State.

I said he took liberties. Don't put ******* words in my mouth, *******. So fine, I'll ******* say it -- any player that goes for the head like Downs did is a dirty piece of ****. There, you happy now? Get bent.

Wow take a Valium and then get back to us 🫏

 

[Bvillebaron]

No one is defending the hit
It should have been targeting. I said yesterday they can't call it correctly so they need to change the rule
Downs had less than a second to react to that. If a Penn State player hit someone in that spot no one would call him dirty
This is all because Downs is elite and on Ohio State so you're mad because of the non call and attacking the player. He didn't make the call.
In 1986 that hit is praised by the way as tough football by the way

Because there was no targeting in 1986 genius.

 

[KingLando]

Because there was no targeting in 1986 genius.

That's my point
Adding the rule doesn't suddenly make the play dirty. Dirty is what JuJu does every week in the NFL. You liked the hit in 86 but now because it's a penalty it's dirty. Maybe the worst argument ever made.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Yes...some have said specifically he's a dirty player which is nonsense
It wasn't a dirty play...this is the probably
It was targeting...those things happen at games played at this speed.
Instead of trying to attack him just say the refs blew the call

Because it was a DIRTY play. Downs left his feet to hit a defenseless player in the head and neck area late in a blow out game. It was a cheap shot which even JJ Watt acknowledged irrespective of whether the brain dead officials (maybe the same ones who didn’t call delay of game against OSU a few years back when I saw the time clock go to zero from the north end zone, turned to look at my buddy in the stands, looked back and saw the OSU center snap the ball and the kicker make the FG) called it targeting or not b

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Yeah, def cheap as F

 

[KingLando]

Because it was a DIRTY play. Downs left his feet to hit a defenseless player in the head and neck area late in a blow out game. It was a cheap shot which even JJ Watt acknowledged irrespective of whether the brain dead officials (maybe the same ones who didn’t call delay of game against OSU a few years back when I saw the time clock go to zero from the north end zone, turned to look at my buddy in the stands, looked back and saw the OSU center snap the ball and the kicker make the FG) called it targeting or not

It wasn't a dirty play
JJ said it was penalty not dirty
We all agree it should be targeting. You're just trying to bash Downs because he's elite and plays on Ohio State. If a Penn State player did that no one would say it was dirty. In fact, many here would love it because it shows toughness. You know...just not when it happens against us.

 

[Bvillebaron]

That's my point
Adding the rule doesn't suddenly make the play dirty. Dirty is what JuJu does every week in the NFL. You liked the hit in 86 but now because it's a penalty it's dirty. Maybe the worst argument ever made.

Give it up. Downs delivered a cheap shot by leaping off his feet to hit a defenseless player in the neck and head area late in a blow out win. I never said he was a dirty player just that it was a dirty play. By the way, the fact that there was no targeting in 1986 doesn’t excuse today’s players from knowing and playing by the current rules.

 

[Bvillebaron]

It wasn't a dirty play
JJ said it was penalty not dirty
We all agree it should be targeting. You're just trying to bash Downs because he's elite and plays on Ohio State. If a Penn State player did that no one would say it was dirty. In fact, many here would love it because it shows toughness. You know...just not when it happens against us.

JJ said it was targeting targeting

 

[KingLando]

Give it up. Downs delivered a cheap shot by leaping off his feet to hit a defenseless player in the neck and head area late in a blow out win. I never said he was a dirty player just that it was a dirty play. By the way, the fact that there was no targeting in 1986 doesn’t excuse today’s players from knowing and playing by the current

Now you're calling him dirty again. You gotta stop because you're wrong. It wasn't a cheap shot. It was simply a penalty. Not dirty. Stop the nonsense.

 

[KingLando]

JJ said it was targeting targeting

Correct. It was targeting not dirty. Not sure why your brain can't comprehend that. Do you sometimes still think it's 1986?

 

[Catch1lion]

I told 2 and his fiancé that’s my wedding outfit

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

The real real reason we’re pissed is that had the Tosu defender been called for targeting, we would have only lost by 17 points instead of 24.

True especially with the +17.5 spread

 

[Ludd]

Correct. It was targeting not dirty. Not sure why your brain can't comprehend that. Do you sometimes still think it's 1986?

Launching your body helmet first at the opponents head is by definition a dirty play. It’s okay to admit it was a dirty play without saying the player is a dirty player in general.

 

[Midnighter]

How did this program just fall off a cliff offensively???? Jesus.

 

[Moogy]

Unquestionably it was a dirty play. What nutjob is claiming different? If it's Lando, and you're arguing with him, you're an idiot. Downs had time, and DID see the ball was past Dinkins and that Dinkins was defenseless BEFORE he launched himself. And, he clearly launched himself upward, into Dinkins' head.

It's the definition of a dirty play.

Whether or not Downs is a "dirty player," in that he takes cheap shots regularly or repeatedly ... no clue ... I don't watch him closely enough ... but who cares? The only relevant thing was, it was clearly a penalty, by the book, it was a clear dirty play ... and some jackwagon with authority decided it wasn't targeting and, whoever that was, he is incompetent and should be relieved of his duties.

 

[KingLando]

Launching your body helmet first at the opponents head is by definition a dirty play. It’s okay to admit it was a dirty play without saying the player is a dirty player in general.

It's not--it happens all the time.
It was a penalty--nothing more.
And again, not only wasn't it "dirty" 5-10 years ago it was a great hit.

 

[Bvillebaron]

What is there remaining to say? Nothing. tOSU looked like Penn State 94 on offense and Penn State 85-86 on defense. tOSU pays big to their players and it shows upon the field.

Penn State football is toast, a beaten team. This is.a.project team and it needs a ground up rebuild.

If I'm a Penn State senior with a shot in the draft, do I really want to even play in the remaining games? I'd have to say "nope".

That would make them and you losers. Did you ever play sports in your life?

 

[Bwifan]

How did this program just fall off a cliff offensively???? Jesus.

The good thing is not 1 of the offensive coaches will be back next year. On defense maybe Terry Smith and Poindexter other than that they all should be polishing up their resumes

 

[Bvillebaron]

No one is defending the hit
It should have been targeting. I said yesterday they can't call it correctly so they need to change the rule
Downs had less than a second to react to that. If a Penn State player hit someone in that spot no one would call him dirty
This is all because Downs is elite and on Ohio State so you're mad because of the non call and attacking the player. He didn't make the call.
In 1986 that hit is praised by the way as tough football by the way

If a Penn State player leveled a hit like that I would call it a dirty play.

 

[Lion84]

Downs is a dirty player and it was an intentionally dirty hit.

 

[Bvillebaron]

Now you're calling him dirty again. You gotta stop because you're wrong. It wasn't a cheap shot. It was simply a penalty. Not dirty. Stop the nonsense.

Do you wear boxers with a Buckeye embroidered on them? How many times do I have to post that I never claimed Downs is a dirty player, just that the hit was a cheap shot and dirty play? YOU need to stop with the BS.

 

[KingLando]

If a Penn State player leveled a hit like that I would call it a dirty play.

Don't believe that for a second. But even if you would have others would be praising it--we're finally playing physical football.
Of course our DBS would have to be within striking distance to actually hit someone.

 

[KingLando]

Do you wear boxers with a Buckeye embroidered on them? How many times do I have to post that I never claimed Downs is a dirty player, just that the hit was a cheap shot and dirty play? YOU need to stop with the BS.

It wasn't dirty. Which you've acknowledge then go back to it's dirty because the rules changed. It's honestly ridiculous.
It was a penalty and based on the current (stupid) rule he should have been ejected. But it wasn't a dirty hit.
Nor is he responsible for the refs making a mistake

 

[Ludd]

It's not--it happens all the time.
It was a penalty--nothing more.
And again, not only wasn't it "dirty" 5-10 years ago it was a great hit.

But today it’s dirty. The players know well enough these days not to do that.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

How did this program just fall off a cliff offensively???? Jesus.

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