It's not--the rules changing don't alter what is dirty
Dirty is what guys like JuJu do weekly. I promise you no one has an issue with Downs. That's a football play
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Dirty is what guys like JuJu do weekly. I promise you no one has an issue with Downs. That's a football play
I fully agree, sitting out is a losers mentality. But given the mental makeup and complete lack of leadership of this team, I wouldnt be shocked to see a few sprains or pulls show up suddenly. It is clear most of them quit already. They just happen to be still getting playing time.
Anybody else amazed how this 330 lb human being jumped the railing so effortlessly? And then ask themselves why isn't this guy all-conference?
The rules have been in place long enough that these players know not to go after the head and if they do, it’s dirty. Not sure why you feel you have to die on every hill where you disagree with someone.
I believe this was ultimately Franklin's downfall: his inability to hire good coaches and to keep bad coaches longer than he should. The revolving door at OC is just the worst example of this. Matching Kotelnicky with Allar still just absolutely blows my mind. Hiring Jim Knowles for 3mm when everyone says his system is so complicated, players need a year or two to get comfortable, in a year where PSU is ranked #2 coming into the season, just blows my mind.
I'm just watching football and having a conversation. You're wrong. It's not any more dirty than it was 40 years. All that changed is its now a penalty.
But these guys weren’t playing 40 years ago to learn any other way…hell they weren’t playing before this became a rule, so it’s all they’ve known.
And in live play instincts take over. This isn't him diving on someone late or going for their knees (which players hate more) but this was a poorly thrown ball that a DB simply tried to deliver a hit. It was correctly flagged and should have been targeting but in no way dirty.
Again, this is a dumb hill for you to die on. It was a dirty play, plain and simple. Fight it all you want, you’re wrong. If his instincts forced him to do something he’s been trained his whole career not to do, then there’s no other explanation than it was a dirty play. You’re making my argument for me.
Just watched that play where Saying scrambled for a first down. Dani Dennis-Sutton basically gave up on the play after he missed the tackle. He threw his arms up and stopped running. That's a microcosm for the entire season
It's wasn't dirty at all. Those hits happen all the time. It's just that he plays for Ohio State therefore you want to attack him.
He’s done that many times this season. I think it was the Nevada game the one play he got upfield toward the QB and gave up right away when he saw it was a draw. The RB then cut back right at him and DDS just punched at the ball with no attempt at a tackle. It was a forced fumble on the stat sheet but just a dumb luck play with very little effort. He checked out long before they started losing games and he’s not alone.
He consistently does that, over runs plays, bad angle whatever it is. He should bury a guy like Sayin in that situation. He had the same kind of whiff on Moore on their winning TD in OT. He is a good microcosm of the underperformance of essentially the entire team this year.
Can we send Knowles back to OSU ? What a joke and mistake ...... especially for $3 million.
Precisely. I said this after the UCLA game. Far too many loser players on this team and “All World” DDS who is supposed to be a team leader is Exhibit A. Championship players would have responded to the OT loss by saying we can still make the playoffs and need to take care of business against UCLA as the first step REGARDLESS of who the hell
was the head coach. What does this team do? Absolutely fail to show up in LA. Go watch DDS especially during the first half. He did two things: (1) take an outside rush trying to make a big play (and pad his personal stats with a sack or TFL) which resulted in a number of big running plays; and (2) did a half assed bull rush on pass plays which consisted of engaging the offensive lineman in front of him and then standing there. If I were Terry Smith this prima donna would not see the field the rest of this year.
You think THAT'S why we lost??? I recall you predicting that we would beat OSU by 2 tuddies at the beginning of the season.
No. Where did you come up with that ridiculously stupid idea?
And I did make that prediction, or something similar, and I was very wrong.
I don’t give a rat’s a$$ who he plays for, how dirty a play is is not influenced by who the guy plays for.
My point is, with or without CJF, we were losing that game badly. The decision to fire him mid season had little to no impact on the outcome of that game.
Your point is completely irrelevant and has nothing to do with anything I said prior.
So why direct your comments at me?
You do...your bias is clear. It was an Ogio State guy against your team. Which is why you keep changing it from a penalty that should have resulted to dirty.
My point is completely relevant. You stated, IN A GAME THREAD, that you felt firing Franklin in the middle of the season had been the wrong approach. Implying then, that not firing Franklin would have changed the outcome of the game. Your second assertion, made after the game, is as foolish as your first, that PSU would win easily.
Franklin is gone, this season is lost, and it will be up to the next coach to build a team and a staff that can compete with the big boys. We'll be back in this position in 3 years, and the clock is ticking.
False.
True.
False. And there's no reasonable way to interpret what I said, and in which context, to support your false assertion.
Wut? Which first assertion? Which second assertion? Use your words.
No shiznit.
We'll have fired a coach midseason in 3 years, following a tragic collapse? So we have that going for us, which is nice.
You've had this moniker in storage, mostly, for almost a decade ... and you decide to bring it out for THIS stupidity? What a shame.
Franklin rarely got blown out especially against OSU, so your opinion is baseless.
So tell me: Specifically, what would JF have done differently on Saturday that would have changed the outcome in a meaningful way? He would have had the same coaching staff and same players. You think he's good for 24 or even 14 points, with everything else unchanged? Get real.
And let me remind you that without a fumble by OSU deep in their end of the field, the score of the game likely ends up 45-7. Now, tell me how JF fixes that.
How did he do it every other time they played OSU? Maybe he’s not quite as bad as many on here think. Certainly better than Terry Smith.