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the nail at the foul line said:
To think oneself brilliant but demonstrate to the world how brainwashed you are, it's actually funny but sad.
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I agree. I see my family fall victim to the 24/7 news cycle w/e I talk to them. What ya'll are expressing here is the same stuff they talk about on the phone. It's depressing to see people that were once so loving and accepting become people that hate/fear everything that isn't them.

context, I don't think I'm brilliant, not even close. Those that do either are or are complete morons. Look up Dunning Kruger. As for being brainwashed, I don't consume media but I think I'm educated enough to be able to discern what's truth and what's a lie or a stretch of the truth.

The whole reason for this thread in the first place was to condemn Rex as if he was directly giving money to help bail out a murderer. That is what the article is pushing. That is a lie.
 
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Wingnuts abound. F Rex. F. Fox.

F the left. F the right. One has unrealistic policy positions and panders to minorities for votes, the other wants to live in 1955 and uses fear based messaging to make old white dudes think they are the 2020s version of jews in Nazi Germany.

Both of your tribal cults suck and neither are 100 percent right or wrong. Eat ****.

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Nice list of CNNMSNBCABCNBCWAPONYT talking points I HAVE Here.

So when this happens under Trump it's fine?

It was his administration that raised the debt by 7.8+ trillion, not Biden.

High prices? Inflation doesn't happen overnight so to blame it on Democrats is a silly argument. Inflation started in early 2021 and while a number of the reasons can be blamed on the covid supply shortages you could reasonably blame the 45 administration for things like tariffs, lowering interest rates rather than raising them back in 2018. Because you know what? Tariffs are inflationary, they pass the price increase to the consumer. Trump passing X% tariffs on another country means that American consumers will end up paying that price hike.

You raise interest rates to curb inflation. Back in 2018, the market had been going up for 9 straight years and the FED wanted to raise rates. Trump wanted to have a similar monetary policy to countries like Japan and Germany, near zero to negative interest rates to boost the markets. The FOMC lowers rates, the market went from being flat in 2018 to skyrocketing in 2019. Covid hit in 2020, markets fall, FOMC lowers rates, even more, to make sure we don't enter a recession (right move), and the market skyrockets again. Now rates are finally being raised but the damage is already there.



Racism? That's hilarious, especially coming from a party who have shown to be the racist ones. You can tell from this thread from the pro-Capitol storm folk and the anti BLM folk. Nothing is wrong with saying BLM. It would be like if your neighbor's house was burning down and you went to the fire dept and yelled "WHAT ABOUT MY HOUSE? ALL HOUSES MATTER?" Sure, all houses need to be taken care of but at this moment it's the house on fire that needs to be tended to. Tending that house does not mean the fire dept is against the other houses on the street.

Open Borders - Our nation was founded by immigrants, for immigrants. Most people coming here aren't coming here illegally. Ya'll folk think anyone coming over is too much but will retort with "As long as they're legal, it's fine" but I know deep done a number of you just want America to be like Japan rather than a melting pot. I'm basing this off of what old friends/family in KY have said to me and how I've seen their friends act in small-town KY.

Connecting the last two, they turn to racism because that's how they were raised. It's a trait based out of ignorance and fear.

No-Law -- See 45's entire life story. See ideals that are straight-up anti-democratic.

Violence and Destruction -- Captiol Storming, Charlottesville, 45s threat to Democracy.
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azurricat2010 said:
I agree. I see my family fall victim to the 24/7 news cycle w/e I talk to them. What ya'll are expressing here is the same stuff they talk about on the phone. It's depressing to see people that were once so loving and accepting become people that hate/fear everything that isn't them.

context, I don't think I'm brilliant, not even close. Those that do either are or are complete morons. Look up Dunning Kruger. As for being brainwashed, I don't consume media but I think I'm educated enough to be able to discern what's truth and what's a lie or a stretch of the truth.

The whole reason for this thread in the first place was to condemn Rex as if he was directly giving money to help bail out a murderer. That is what the article is pushing. That is a lie.
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That is not a lie. What you're saying is it's okay to donate money to the Nazi party as long as the Nazis use it to clean up the street.
 
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the nail at the foul line said:
You have absolutely no proof of this. Zero. I don't see you complaining when the left broke into the capital numerous times before.
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I see you updated your original post because all I could see was "Where is the proof this policeman was defending himself? Where are you getting that?"

Dude, you sound like a child. If the left did the same thing I'd complain. It's rare for the Capitol to be breached like it was on 1/6. Maybe a handful of times in our nation's history with the War of 1812 first coming to mind.

I was saying obtuse because I was using an officer killing someone in self-defense as an example. A random cop on the street if you will. I never said that cop was specifically the cop in the Capitol.

I said the cops in the Capitol have a job to protect the people in that building and those that were trying to bust down that door were seen as threats.
 
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DrH. Lecter said:
Speaking of obtuse.....how exactly was SHE a threat to HIM?

Also, you dropped the obtuse leftist trope...Charlottesville. What about that event bothers you most?
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She wasn't a threat to him specifically but the group of people were a threat to those in the building. Their job is to protect the people in that building.
 
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azurricat2010 said:
I see you updated your original post because all I could see was "Where is the proof this policeman was defending himself? Where are you getting that?"

Dude, you sound like a child. If the left did the same thing I'd complain. It's rare for the Capitol to be breached like it was on 1/6. Maybe a handful of times in our nation's history with the War of 1812 first coming to mind.

I was saying obtuse because I was using an officer killing someone in self-defense as an example. A random cop on the street if you will. I never said that cop was specifically the cop in the Capitol.

I said the cops in the Capitol have a job to protect the people in that building and those that were trying to bust down that door were seen as threats.
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So show me Ashley Babbitt breaking down the door.
 
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azurricat2010 said:
I see you updated your original post because all I could see was "Where is the proof this policeman was defending himself? Where are you getting that?"

Dude, you sound like a child. If the left did the same thing I'd complain. It's rare for the Capitol to be breached like it was on 1/6. Maybe a handful of times in our nation's history with the War of 1812 first coming to mind.

I was saying obtuse because I was using an officer killing someone in self-defense as an example. A random cop on the street if you will. I never said that cop was specifically the cop in the Capitol.

I said the cops in the Capitol have a job to protect the people in that building and those that were trying to bust down that door were seen as threats.
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Anytime you want to provide evidence of Ashley Babbitt being a threat to that police officer go ahead. Had this have been reversed and a white police officer had killed a black woman, your response would be 180° from what it is.
 
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the nail at the foul line said:
Anytime you want to provide evidence of Ashley Babbitt being a threat to that police officer go ahead. Had this have been reversed and a white police officer had killed a black woman, your response would be 180° from what it is.
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No, I wouldn't. I'd see that group as a threat to the Capitol just like I did the people on 1/6.
 
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azurricat2010 said:
She wasn't a threat to him specifically but the group of people were a threat to those in the building. Their job is to protect the people in that building.
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You gave the correct answer. She was not a threat to him. Therefore he made a bad kill. If he could justifiably shot her (not a threat but a POTENTIAL threat if she broke through the door) then police would be equally justified in shooting every single BLM/Antifa rioter who were doing exactly the same thing at a police barricade. You cannot possibly think giving police the power to kill on sight is a good policy.
 
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DrH. Lecter said:
You gave the correct answer. She was not a threat to him. Therefore he made a bad kill. If he could justifiably shot her (not a threat but a POTENTIAL threat if she broke through the door) then police would be equally justified in shooting every single BLM/Antifa rioter who were doing exactly the same thing at a police barricade. You cannot possibly think giving police the power to kill on sight is a good policy.
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He is Justin Trudeau.
 
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Any time a lefty cites “Jan 6” as some type of 9/11 like it’s anything other than leftist orchestrated gaslighting it’s extremely evident what a tard they are.

You know how many people were killed that day? One. An unarmed woman murdered by a black cop who went uncharged yet everyone watched the previous year where BLM rioted, looted and murdered for a career criminal.
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Do you have any idea just how ridiculously brainwashed you sound when you minimize the Jan 6th Capitol riot and claim it was really a far left gaslighting event??
So the far left dressed up like Trump supporters, broke out windows and stormed the doors to get inside the Capitol....then were arrested later based on video evidence as well as years of online far right anti-government posts....but in reality they were Democrats who were angry that Biden won....or just real tricky like that????
I get it now...So that must mean that Republican Trump supporters were responsible for the BLM riots and it was just sneaky gaslighters dressed in BLM shirts burning down police stations.

I found some video of tricky gaslighters just wanting to do a quick unguided tour of the Capitol....
 
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azurricat2010 said:
Why would it be?

A cop on the street defending themselves and killing someone in the process isn't murder. It's self-defense.

Those people were raiding the Capitol and she was unfortunately in the front of the group trying to break those doors down.

Those cops could just let those people break those doors down and run wild but that's not their job. Their job is to protect the people in that building.
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I'm glad you're not a cop or we would have a scene similar to Tiananmen Square - just mow em all down.
 
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sambowieshin said:
Do you have any idea just how ridiculously brainwashed you sound when you minimize the Jan 6th Capitol riot and claim it was really a far left gaslighting event??
So the far left dressed up like Trump supporters, broke out windows and stormed the doors to get inside the Capitol....then were arrested later based on video evidence as well as years of online far right anti-government posts....but in reality they were Democrats who were angry that Biden won....or just real tricky like that????
I get it now...So that must mean that Republican Trump supporters were responsible for the BLM riots and it was just sneaky gaslighters dressed in BLM shirts burning down police stations.

I found some video of tricky gaslighters just wanting to do a quick unguided tour of the Capitol....
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I personally do not understand why the right has basically run away from the events of that day. Certainly there were a handful of protesters who battled with the police who should pay the legal consequence. But having watched MONTHS of politicians and media hacks giving warm smooches to BLM/Antifa as they actually Burned Looted and Murdered....then it should be no surprise that the other half of the country learned...as was so eloquently stated by Leftist Leaders: who says protests have to be peaceful?.

So maybe message received. ALL violent protesters should be arrested and jailed....but only leftists deify their mob and bail them out. In contrast, there are a lot of 1-6 protesters still sitting in jail. Why the double standard?
 
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I personally do not understand why the right has basically run away from the events of that day. Certainly there were a handful of protesters who battled with the police who should pay the legal consequence. But having watched MONTHS of politicians and media hacks giving warm smooches to BLM/Antifa as they actually Burned Looted and Murdered....then it should be no surprise that the other half of the country learned...as was so eloquently stated by Leftist Leaders: who says protests have to be peaceful?.

So maybe message received. ALL violent protesters should be arrested and jailed....but only leftists deify their mob and bail them out. In contrast, there are a lot of 1-6 protesters still sitting in jail. Why the double standard?
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You must not watch Fox News or have heard Trump say recently that he will pardon the Capitol rioters if he is reelected.
My biggest beef with the whole dang thing is the hypocrisy of the far left and radical right.
The BLM riots were wrong. The rioters that burned buildings and looted should be arrested.
The Capitol riot was wrong. The rioters that broke thru windows and vandalized the Capitol should be arrested.
I just don't get what is so damn hard for people to understand about that and why they will make excuses or create delusional scenarios for the behaviors of nuts in the political party they most identify with.
 
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DrH. Lecter said:
You mean she wasnt pointing her Glock at his head? She didn't take a swing at his head with her skateboard? Didn't chase him into a corner while yelling she was going to kill him? Yikes? Maybe it was a bad kill after all.
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WTH - She was about to climb through a door when shot. No glock was pointed at cop and surely didn't swing a skateboard at his head. She wasn't even in the same room yet. Yes, definately a bad kill as you say. Lay off the mushrooms, you're having visions.
 
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The headline from the linked Fox News article is misleading.... but only if you read it quickly. A careful reading of the headline and the article simply state that Rex has made past contributions to BLM Louisville and the Bail Fund that sprung a would-be killer from jail.

Some left-leaning posters in their ignorance are bashing Fox for reporting the news, although if Rex was merely a "social media influencer" instead of a hired gun for CNN, they probably wouldn't have run this story in the first place. Fox News is quick to thrash CNN and MSNBC when they deserve it, which is quite often.

I started disliking Rex when he tweeted the BS about Calipari during the 2014 Final Four, and have grown to like him even less as examples of his intellectual dishonesty in pushing liberal propaganda have multiplied. Forcefully denouncing BLM and the Community Bail Fund is probably too much ask of him.
 
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sambowieshin said:
You must not watch Fox News or have heard Trump say recently that he will pardon the Capitol rioters if he is reelected.
My biggest beef with the whole dang thing is the hypocrisy of the far left and radical right.
The BLM riots were wrong. The rioters that burned buildings and looted should be arrested.
The Capitol riot was wrong. The rioters that broke thru windows and vandalized the Capitol should be arrested.
I just don't get what is so damn hard for people to understand about that and why they will make excuses or create delusional scenarios for the behaviors of nuts in the political party they most identify with.
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The problem lies with the double standard used for treating the BLM rioters compared to the Jan 6th rioters. I agree that both should be punished if they committed ANY crimes. However, there are people that did NOTHING but enter the Capitol that are STILL in jail awaiting trial with a judge that WON'T allow bail.

Contrast that with how many BLM rioters were allowed to be released WITHOUT even requiring BAIL. Heck, it wasn't just Rex that was contributing to bail funds, the future VP Harris PUBLICLY donated to the fund along with SEVERAL actors and Pro athletes.

Inconsistency in how criminal activity is treated should be SHOUTED from EVERY media outlet, not just your favorite one.
 
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Bird--man said:
I never saw Ashley attacking anyone - did you?
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She was part of a huge mob that violently attacked the Capitol using bear spray, bats, metal flag poles, wood beams, fire extinguishers and anything else they could use to breach the building. Doors breached, Windows smashed and she was shot breaking into the last remaining doorway leading to the legislators remaining in the building. Cops were beaten and injured badly in the process. Rioters were chanting "Hang Mike Pence".
She wasn't just walking down a sidewalk in front of the Capitol wearing her MAGA hat.
I didn't personally see Ashley attack anyone but I did see this video.....
 
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sambowieshin said:
She was part of a huge mob that violently attacked the Capitol using bear spray, bats, metal flag poles, wood beams, fire extinguishers and anything else they could use to breach the building. Doors breached, Windows smashed and she was shot breaking into the last remaining doorway leading to the legislators remaining in the building. Cops were beaten and injured badly in the process. Rioters were chanting "Hang Mike Pence".
She wasn't just walking down a sidewalk in front of the Capitol wearing her MAGA hat.
I didn't personally see Ashley attack anyone but I did see this video.....
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So, you think her being shot was justified??
 
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The problem lies with the double standard used for treating the BLM rioters compared to the Jan 6th rioters. I agree that both should be punished if they committed ANY crimes. However, there are people that did NOTHING but enter the Capitol that are STILL in jail awaiting trial with a judge that WON'T allow bail.

Contrast that with how many BLM rioters were allowed to be released WITHOUT even requiring BAIL. Heck, it wasn't just Rex that was contributing to bail funds, the future VP Harris PUBLICLY donated to the fund along with SEVERAL actors and Pro athletes.

Inconsistency in how criminal activity is treated should be SHOUTED from EVERY media outlet, not just your favorite one.
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Both parties are full of double standards and hypocrites. It is up to citizens with critical thinking skills to recognize this. You mean like this double standard.....

 
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Bird--man said:
So, you think her being shot was justified??
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Absolutely. I also think Rittenhouse was justified in what he did. I think anytime a mob of thousands turns violent and begins attacking police and/or citizens....you have the right to use deadly force if threatened in that manner.
 
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catben said:
The problem lies with the double standard used for treating the BLM rioters compared to the Jan 6th rioters. I agree that both should be punished if they committed ANY crimes. However, there are people that did NOTHING but enter the Capitol that are STILL in jail awaiting trial with a judge that WON'T allow bail.

Contrast that with how many BLM rioters were allowed to be released WITHOUT even requiring BAIL. Heck, it wasn't just Rex that was contributing to bail funds, the future VP Harris PUBLICLY donated to the fund along with SEVERAL actors and Pro athletes.

Inconsistency in how criminal activity is treated should be SHOUTED from EVERY media outlet, not just your favorite one.
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That was not a guided tour. They entered into the Capitol illegally. They broke thru windows and doors to get in there.
Are you saying that people have the right to bust down the door to your house and/or break thru the windows of your house and come in as long as they just "enter" your house and wander around???
Good Lord. Some of ya'll will excuse any and all in the name of politics.
 
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the nail at the foul line said:
So you're saying Ashley Babbitt had a gun pointed at the police about to shoot them? Do you realize how stupid that is
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Every person that Rittenhouse shot wasn't pointing a gun at him either. Are you even aware of what happened in that case? I'm not even saying that Rittenhouse should be guilty. I believe it was justified in that he was being attacked. But all of his attackers were not armed with guns. Neither was Babbitt but that mob she came in with was absolutely attacking police.
 
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