Just like the other MORANS you are wrong. I have said it many times, MORE adjustments need to be made.
So it's not that easy man by reading all the posts I came away thinking anyone can do this
Spencer would have never amounted to anything at any other program.
I would love to see TnT take over the HWC. I realize they’re world class technical coaches. Something isn’t clicking anymore with this generation of kids for them though; they can’t seem to get on the same page. We can use Lee, Desanto, and Buchanan but those guys were going to be good no matter where they went. I will give you Desanto as I don’t think any other coaches could’ve reined him in like the Brands did. It is on the Brands though that they’ve waited this long to make adjustments to their coaching staff. I’m sure it’s a loyalty thing but it’s costing them their fan base and possibly job. Are they willing to let loyalty cost them their job? Cause that’s where it’s headed. I don’t think you’ll find a hawk fan on here that don’t like the Brands, want them to succeed, and hope only the best for them, but things just aren’t working out man.
OK Max, its destroying all college sports was mostly my point there, but because I referenced it I guess I can explain a bit. So let me dumb it down for you, but before I do I will ask YOU one 3 part question.
Bo,Taylor,Nolf would have either should I go on. I think Taylor beats Dake if he was at IOWA, How many top 10 have not met expectations at psu? One more comment, how much impact has a college coach had on Duke or Jax. Shut it turd
4. Talented transfers considering the Hawks should not be allowed to accept a smaller bag to go to PSU or other rival. That needs to be strictly forbidden.
1. No
Finally someone with some common sense!
fair enough, So I will again say it. Change is needed!1. No
2. Yes
3. I think that’s pretty subjective and it would be hard for anyone to accurately rank.
The whole moral high ground argument is so convenient when it’s impossible to prove and all speculation.
It feels like we are always trapped in this little cycle.
So until anyone brings some provable facts I am just going to assume it’s more excuses because that’s how it comes off after 15 years of hearing the cheating bs.
I’m not sure Mocco would have an interest but I would be down with Kem and Cass
So you agree with me then. Pretty stupid if you to try to use Spencer’s success as an example of how good Brands is as a coach.
dude stop are you still licking paint chips?
I think someone more technical is needed although Cass may be a better training partner then Bobby.
Bob told us three yrs ago the playing field was now even
He did state something to that affect, fairly certain that was referencing money only.
Two of the top coaches in the world! Slow the roll! There are 10ish coaches out there that would be better than TT if they were handed Iowa program 20 yrs ago. So many coaches do decent without iowas legacy, $$$, carver complex(that was best in nation for lsst 30 yrs, gable legacy etc. my god theyve had everything for 20 yrs others dont and didnt. Theyve blown the gap iowa had. Other coaches that have had success with no resources or legacy brsnds were handed have done well with nothing. Those coaches worked with the minimal resources and developed and recruited.
You think brands would of developed taylor better than psu to beat dake?
im still waiting for them to develop 1 wrestler. I have all the stupid things set on this thread. That’s right up there at the top.
I agree that NIL isn't great, but this is such a weak cop out argument. Kids are transferring all the time now to chase that money. You don't think for a second they wouldn't spill the beans if they saw some shady stuff? Say wrestler A is at Penn State and shopping around to other schools. You don't think he would use that as a bargaining chip if he knew something was going down there? The playing field may not be as level as anyone wants, but constant excuses are so weak. Compliance department at Iowa may be tough, but its not the compliance department thats teaching guys to try and win a 2-1 match in rideouts.
Nice post, I would say 15% true maybe 20% but thats just because Im feeling good and I slept in a holiday inn last night.
This is the best you got! If this is you "giving it all" then you have much bigger problems, seek help.
Fair point check in with Beau Barlett first before commenting again. I agree with some of your points though
I said the same thing to your sister last night, sorry I had to just to easy.
This is the best you got! If this is you "getting a grip" then you have much bigger problems, seek help.
yes, someone said he was seen on campus in a boot. Hurt in the match with Welsh.
That situation is less than ideal for sure. You specifically mentioned NIL and teams skirting some gray areas. Thats what I was referring to. Just making a point on the constant excuses. Big money donor comes in stating the playing field is now level only to move the goal post again. Apparently when it doesn't play out, its right back to unfair. Just trying to follow where your'e going is all. Its Wrestletown for God's sake. Why the need for excuses?
Please tell me you don't believe the playing field is level in high school. The playing field has never been level at any layer. Results are what matter and every excuse in the world doesn't change that. TNT are not going to win another team title even if they keep them another 10 years. They know that-everyone in wrestling knows that-and that is ok it seems.
I was not going to go here, but because all the excuses thing keeps being played I feel I must. Why did we lose Bo Bassett and Why is Endene not on the team? The answer is a combination of money and rules for both, Iowa has the money but they also follow very strict guidelines with impunity. One of the reasons I am such a big fan, integrity has value!
No the HS playing field is really not level either, I know. NIL is going to make this worse also, it was bad enough with out of state recruiting and such.
I think those teams just understand the guidelines, and operate better in them. We all love wrestling, but it is a non revenue sport with a very niche following. Even at Penn State. The NCAA and Athletic departments may turn a blind eye when it comes to Football, but I don't believe so with wrestling. No AD is going to risk having their school running afoul of the NCAA for a non revenue sport like wrestling. This is almost like recruiting, and development. Other teams have adjusted to the times, and have worked hard to stay on top of both. Iowa just seems to be way behind the times. The NCAA rules are there for everyone. How can you fault a program for putting in the work, and finding the best way to operate within those guidelines?
Mo not being on the team has a ton to do with integrity but not in the direction you are hoping. What very strict guideline do you think had to be followed to keep Mo? You speak of facts but you don't have any. Give some specific examples with proof. Saying something doesn't make it real even if it is repeated thousands of times. The only fact I can state is this program is in decline and there are other programs on the rise. There is no way to know if a new captain would right the ship, but staying with the one who took the ship off course doesn't seem too bright. I like your loyalty because that is a strong quality in any human, but it isn't a matter of lack of loyalty that leads many people to want a change in leadership. I believe it is loyalty to the program over loyalty to the coaches that drives this train.
