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stuway

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You acted childish for saying you were done with Stoops in the first half and that the outcome didn't matter. You're never going to look any better basing arguments off assumptions either. Kentucky has played many "real opponents" in fact more than most div-1 teams every year and their still going to be 6-6 at the end of the night and headed for a bowl game for the first time since 2010.

That doesn't matter to you though because you are done, right?

Sure, an irrelevant bowl is great. It's partly that, cause the sec was so down this year, thought we should've won a few more, especially USM. But it's what's coming next year too man. Bet you anything we win no more than 4 games next year
 

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sluggercatfan

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He made fun of you , that says everything about your influence . It's just complaints on the internet that'll roll right off the front page soon . You probably do think that most fans are in line with your thinking , I don't think so . We are going to a bowl , watch and see if Stoops will be back . You'll probably disparage Mitch over that fact but it'll simultaneously demonstrate how powerless you are over coaching changes . You were all in on Petrino , how'd that influence work out for ya ?
You'll probably see next week about BP and yes, I do think MS is in over his head, but you know what I already have reservations for bowl game and just waiting to see which one... How about you?
 

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Sure, an irrelevant bowl is great. It's partly that, cause the sec was so down this year, thought we should've won a few more, especially USM. But it's what's coming next year too man. Bet you anything we win no more than 4 games next year

I would have bet you we wouldn't win more than 3 this year pre-season. I'm not one to make excuses for wins though. There is no next year for you since clearly you quit, IN THE FIRST HALF of a blow out victory!
 
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Xception

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Holy CRAP!!!!! What an accomplishment!!!!! Lexington should throw a parade and put up a statue for Stoops!!

:joy::joy: Seriously, going to a bowl. LOLOLOL
That was what the vast majority set as an attainable goal in the preseason and some predicted five wins due to our schedule . We have met the expectations , that is cause for celebration at UK who never gets to go bowling . It's stunning that some of you actually think UK can be so much more if you just demand it . **** in one hand , demand in the other and see which one you feel first
 
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That was what the vast majority set as an attainable goal in the preseason and some predicted five wins due to our schedule . We have met the expectations , that is cause for celebration at UK who never gets to go bowling . It's stunning that some of you actually think UK can be so much more if you just demand it . **** in one hand , demand in the other and see which one you feel first

I've been following ABH's posts on this site for 11 years and he's right more often than naught.
 

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That was what the vast majority set as an attainable goal in the preseason and some predicted five wins due to our schedule . We have met the expectations , that is cause for celebration at UK who never gets to go bowling . It's stunning that some of you actually think UK can be so much more if you just demand it . **** in one hand , demand in the other and see which one you feel first
'vast majority'.....do you do presidential polling for your day job?
 

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Here we go, some pumpers have arrived... @JohnBlue_ I'm childish because I'm not concerned aboytvthe final score, only our crappy first half?? Great point, cause only that counts right. The game isn't made up of a whole is it?? This team is so horrible, any decent P5 team should beat them 30-0 in 1 quarter, so that arguement is foolish. Notice you didn't even come in this thread until the team started to actually play. Come out like that against our real opponents in the SEC and that kind of first half costs you a game. But keep preaching the final score argument, I've schooled you enough there I think. The while game absolutely matters.

@Xception tell us misguided fools about these impediments this job posses oh wise one.... Tell us how great the tradition and facilities and all the other crap excuses you're gonna use matter at Houston, UL, Wash St, Colorado, Duke, etc...

You sunshine pumpers are just wrong. Stoops isn't cut out to be a great HC and he has proved it time AMD time again. You can honestly watch and listen to coaches ans you can see, hear and understand what they might bring as a HC... And Stoops doesn't have the it and that bleeds over in the way this team plays

The SEC is as bad beyond Bama as I've ever seen it, thus our 4 big conference wins.

You can't make enough lame excuses for this coach. A lot of us fans arevtired of this ..we want to beat good teams, stop making stupid penalties game after game... We want to stop being a laughing stock. But the pumpers are happy with a crap bowl and beating no team worth a damn!! Makes no sense to me and never will.


Posts, like yours, are sure to stop the laughing.:rolleyes:
 

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Posts, like yours, are sure to stop the laughing.:rolleyes:

Good one. You really got me there, wow. Very witty and super insightful. At least I made an attempt to argue my position instead of just some sniper fly by that adds nothing. We'll done champ
 

stuway

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I would have bet you we wouldn't win more than 3 this year pre-season. I'm not one to make excuses for wins though. There is no next year for you since clearly you quit, IN THE FIRST HALF of a blow out victory!

No, not wanting to retain a coach who is in over his head, has nothing to do with my support for my team. I will always support every UK team. That's just a weak argument from you sunshine pumpers.... If you don't like the coach, you don't support the team. No sir, one is not dependent on the other.

I honestly can't fathom that people are satisfied with stoops
 
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No, not wanting to retain a coach who is in over his head, has nothing to do with my support for my team. I will always support every UK team. That's just a weak argument from you sunshine pumpers.... If you don't like the coach, you don't support the team. No sir, one is not dependent on the other.

I honestly can't fathom that people are satisfied with stoops

Obviously you don't understand reality. Football, for the most part, isn't a sport that can be turned around in one, two, even three recruiting classes.....especially at a place like Kentucky. Is he in a tough position? You bet. Turning a perineal loser into a powerhouse is no small feet and not a single coach after Bryant has done that. I also remember when you guys wanted Brook's head on a silver platter. In over his head? I doubt it. You don't get to where he's been by being in over your head.
 
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Yeah boy, I have no life because I call a spade a spade. I see you don't try and argue with the facts in my pitiful rant. Bit hey, why argue with facts, you would lose then. Instead just come back with some week *** attack about my life you know nothing about.

You look like an idiot coming at me personally since you had no rebuttal that this coach is bad. Good job cool guy, way to prove nothing
I think your rebuttal post says everything about you. Fill that glass again and you'll feel better or numb whichever comes first.
 

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Sure, an irrelevant bowl is great. It's partly that, cause the sec was so down this year, thought we should've won a few more, especially USM. But it's what's coming next year too man. Bet you anything we win no more than 4 games next year
How much are you willing to bet? :pimp:
 

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I'm sorry. I dont care if we win 85-13
There is no reason to start like this... Unprepared, uninspired, I'm done with stoops for good. We need a real coach!!

I agree about the start but they finished. The real problem was at OL, QB and the defense letting AP slap them around early.
 

stuway

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Sorry SanAntonioCat, not drinking. Excuse my spelling errors typing on my phone.

Y'all aren't gonna change my mind. I'm not gonna change yours. Time will tell soon enough though. And to the fellow poster who wants the wager, let me ponder this, I hate to cheer against my team. Contrary to popular belief, I support my team always, regardless of how I feel about the coach.

Let's see how we do next week against our rival. I wonder if more of y'all will see the light after next week
 

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Bama leading Chattanooga 21-3 in 3rd quarter. I hear all their fans are selling their national championship tickets, it's that bad. Or it just football and stuff happens. Either or.
 

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You cannot come out unprepared against an overmatched opponent with the season hanging on that game.

Why, if Petrino did that kind of thing, Louisville wouldn't be in final four consider.......


Oops. Never mind.
 

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UK fans bitching about a 6-5 season is almost equivalent to UT fans bitching about never making it to the Final 4 in college basketball. What the hell do you expect ? At the moment, I'm just wanting UK to get back over .500 all time.
 
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No, not wanting to retain a coach who is in over his head, has nothing to do with my support for my team. I will always support every UK team. That's just a weak argument from you sunshine pumpers.... If you don't like the coach, you don't support the team. No sir, one is not dependent on the other.

I honestly can't fathom that people are satisfied with stoops

I'm satisfied with how this year turned out. The fact that this team will finish at worst 6-6 is fantastic after their first 2.5 games. They just beat every team in the SEC they were favored against (two of them) and two they weren't. I'm pretty sure that's called progressing. If you expect 10-2 at this point with this roster (and it's issues), then you should find a powerhouse to go follow and not bother the UK boards with your bitching and moaning. Everyone, including you, will be happier for it.
 

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love coming here to watch our fans bicker and fight, it's better than the our recent presidential election! I'm not sunshine pumper! i do although know what it takes to play the cane having suited up in a few college football games myself. I didn't get a participation trophy whoever we lost!
uk won 6 games and are going to a bowl game, that progress, we are one of if not the youngest team in the nation! mistakes happen and I really hope our team is embarrassed the way they played, but some of you are comical. tickets sales do mean alot but bowl shares in the money mean alot too, stoops isn't going anywhere even if we lose 75-0 against Louisville.
we don't take trouble players from other schools, we don't hire troubled coaches. we've had so much turnover that how can you expect anything consistent? we need to find a staff and go with it, we learned that Eliot was our main defensive problem, but then again is/was he? we changed from a pass heavy team to a bullying run heavy team, our defense now gets long breaks! I would bet that someone could crunch the numbers that you'd find most of the scores on our defense come on short fields and 3 and outs.
it's been said we would never be able to run a run heavy offense in the SEC, but we did, we have 2 1000 yard rushers! something never done before at UK. we have another year of boom abs 2 more likely of Benny! we have alot to look forward to, and if, and only if we regress to similar levels next year does there need to be a change.
 
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OK, I will be back next week after our rival embarrasses us and see how y'all feel. But I know y'all will be fine cause the blow out will be progress. Then it will progress right into 4 wins next year. And after we lose to Lil brother and our bowl game, losing record again so Stoops can keep his streak intact.

I will never apologize for wanting a good football program.
 

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OK, I will be back next week after our rival embarrasses us and see how y'all feel. But I know y'all will be fine cause the blow out will be progress. Then it will progress right into 4 wins next year. And after we lose to Lil brother and our bowl game, losing record again so Stoops can keep his streak intact.

I will never apologize for wanting a good football program.
your reading comprehension SUCKS!

"advance or develop toward a better, more complete, or more modern state." is the definition of progress. progress can be from game to game which we haven't seen in mass effect, or it can be year to year, which we DEFINITELY have done.

and I'm not asking you to apologize, you're allowed your opinion no matter how right or wrong they may be. we are not Alabama or Florida or Tennessee. those teams have mass amounts of talent, and have storied history. Both of which we don't have, if you want quick and painful growth then go to a school that takes a troubled coach and troubled players, but don't try to tell us we are wrong, when facts do prove progress. just because it's not in your time frame doesn't mean ypu have any footing other than your own personal agenda!
 

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why come back? if it makes you angry, find something better to do. it would benefit you, and us.


I heard you the first time 1st grade screen name guy. I've been here alot longer than you and ain't going anywhere. I'm entitled to my opinion as you are yours. You'll be alright.

Subsonic...... I have no personal agenda other than wanting to see a good football program. I just don't believe the man charged with that task is the person to get us there for the long haul. Simple as that. I don't dislike stoops as a person, I'm just not a fan of his as a HC of UK. I've remained fairly quiet and given it 4 years. I've made my mind up that while he is a good recruiter, I don't believe he is a good head football coach.
 

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your reading comprehension SUCKS!

"advance or develop toward a better, more complete, or more modern state." is the definition of progress. progress can be from game to game which we haven't seen in mass effect, or it can be year to year, which we DEFINITELY have done.

and I'm not asking you to apologize, you're allowed your opinion no matter how right or wrong they may be. we are not Alabama or Florida or Tennessee. those teams have mass amounts of talent, and have storied history. Both of which we don't have, if you want quick and painful growth then go to a school that takes a troubled coach and troubled players, but don't try to tell us we are wrong, when facts do prove progress. just because it's not in your time frame doesn't mean ypu have any footing other than your own personal agenda!
you don't have facts, you have opinion. it could just have easily been the case that opponents were not as good rather than you got better. there is a difference. you are entitled to your opinion on which it was. but don't call it a fact.
 

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I heard you the first time 1st grade screen name guy. I've been here alot longer than you and ain't going anywhere. I'm entitled to my opinion as you are yours. You'll be alright.

Subsonic...... I have no personal agenda other than wanting to see a good football program. I just don't believe the man charged with that task is the person to get us there for the long haul. Simple as that. I don't dislike stoops as a person, I'm just not a fan of his as a HC of UK. I've remained fairly quiet and given it 4 years. I've made my mind up that while he is a good recruiter, I don't believe he is a good head football coach.


so you feel more turnover after progress is warranted? Honestly that can't be what you want! do I think Stoops is the complete answer, he'll no. I do however, believe he can get us back to where Brooks had us, which in turn makes the job more desirable. after 4 years and progression from years 1 to 4 there is no way any coach better than stoops would dare to look at UK if they cannot him. We're not LSU, Bama, UF, UGA, FSU, UM, OSU, or any team like them, we can't fire a coach for slow progression.

IMHO stoops is reversing the coaching graveyard moniker that UK has had since curry! before you say anything, no, 4 years is not enough for a program in the shape UK was in btw!
 

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you don't have facts, you have opinion. it could just have easily been the case that opponents were not as good rather than you got better. there is a difference. you are entitled to your opinion on which it was. but don't call it a fact.

so is it fact that 6 is better than 5? it is

UK has 2 1000 yards rushers for the first time ever! that's a fact and Progress

we are a young, very young if not the youngest team in CFB. we are

have certain teams regressed? yea some have, but to compete with a loaded UGA team, Beat Mizzou who has regressed but we were underdogs, beat Vandy (was ugly but a W is a w), beat Bowl bound USC (third straight year if im not mistaken). Tennessee may not be world beaters but we ran for 443 yards on them for crying out loud, when's the last time we did that.

my fact is the Gap is closing, the east may have been down but UKs talent is growing, now we need mass fundamental progress on defense.

another fact most defenses play better when they have time to rest on the sideline, say because of an offense that chews up clock and two of the better backs statistically in country!
 
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I heard you the first time 1st grade screen name guy. I've been here alot longer than you and ain't going anywhere. I'm entitled to my opinion as you are yours. You'll be alright.

Subsonic...... I have no personal agenda other than wanting to see a good football program. I just don't believe the man charged with that task is the person to get us there for the long haul. Simple as that. I don't dislike stoops as a person, I'm just not a fan of his as a HC of UK. I've remained fairly quiet and given it 4 years. I've made my mind up that while he is a good recruiter, I don't believe he is a good head football coach.

seems silly to continue to do something that makes you so miserable.
 

stuway

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so you feel more turnover after progress is warranted? Honestly that can't be what you want! do I think Stoops is the complete answer, he'll no. I do however, believe he can get us back to where Brooks had us, which in turn makes the job more desirable. after 4 years and progression from years 1 to 4 there is no way any coach better than stoops would dare to look at UK if they cannot him. We're not LSU, Bama, UF, UGA, FSU, UM, OSU, or any team like them, we can't fire a coach for slow progression.

IMHO stoops is reversing the coaching graveyard moniker that UK has had since curry! before you say anything, no, 4 years is not enough for a program in the shape UK was in btw!

I'm gonna surprise you and agree with most of your post here. I guess I'm just more impatient than you. I also see next years schedule, couple that with stoops weaknesses, and I think we sadly take a step back next year
 
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stuway

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seems silly to continue to do something that makes you so miserable.

Brother it doesn't make me miserable. I'm just fed up after being a UK football fan for 30 plus years. Still love all teams UK.... But the coach frustrates me. I know stoops has done better than many previous coaches here, I've said he is a good recruiter. I want the next level now man, that's all.