I agree. This is getting embarrassing. We’ve scored 2 points in the second half and only 13 points since we were up 19-12 in the first half.We’re just not good.
WVU sucks in the 2nd half. It's almost like we have a coach that refuses to make halftime adjustments, nevermind in-game adjustments.
Furthermore, other B12 schools get transfers from other P5 schools. We get scraps from freaking Old Dominion and FIU and our first big time recruit in 14 years gets to Morgantown, evidently clashed with the coaching staff, transferred to a player's coach's team, and not only is the unanimous choice for best transfer in the country, but will be up for National Player of the Year.
If Marshall or Pitt boards began thumping their chests about transfers from "Gotta Google this school" U, we'd rightfully be laughing at them. But here? No. It's allllll part of the plaaaannnn....to fix "it". Whatever "it" is.
High school coaches in the WV coalfields making 2500 extra a year (well, maybe not at some schools) are held more accountable than a supposed HOF coach making 4 million a year.
Maybe in terms of wins and going farthest in the NCAA tournament. But best actual coach in WVU's history? I disagree.We were a 3 seed last year, so don’t act like it’s been all bad. But yea, it’s starting to feel like it’s time, we are straight up bottoming out and the Oscar situation is going to reflect poorly on the staff for sure. Bob will go down as our GOAT coach in program history, he was worth his contract.
Maybe in terms of wins and going farthest in the NCAA tournament. But best actual coach in WVU's history? I disagree.
The best coach cannot have a fanbase consensus that he needs to bring in new staff to correct (or rather, create) the offense, or new staff to entice higher caliber recruits. The GOAT coach shouldn't need some up and comer to come in to show him how it's done, whether in implementing a non-anemic offense, or managing to to recruit players our opponents also recruit.
You cannot in one breath say he is a HOF coach, the greatest in WVU history, and one of the greatest of all time, and in the other say that he needs someone else to come in to install a decent offense.
Not a big fan of him personally, but JB. He inherited a train wreck program and handed the keys off to Huggins with a foundation that Huggins has yet to exceed. Say what you want about Huggins and JB, but Huggins had his greatest success here with JB's players as his nucleus.So who is better, Catlett? Schaus with only 5 years in his tenure? He’s the WVU BB GOAT and arguably the GOAT across all sports here. Just because defense and rebounding were what fueled most of his victories and accomplishments, doesn’t discount the wins and accomplishments. When the game passed him by he pivoted to a new style of play, including last season where he delivered the offensive results you are pining for.
It’s just time. Everything comes to an end, his legacy here will be a positive one and if his successor can deliver NCAA berths at the same rate and a Final Four run we would be very fortunate.
Not a big fan of him personally, but JB. He inherited a train wreck program and handed the keys off to Huggins with a foundation that Huggins has yet to exceed. Say what you want about Huggins and JB, but Huggins had his greatest success here with JB's players as his nucleus.
Would JB have made a FF at WVU? No one knows. But what we do know is that he took Michigan to two NC games and was good enough to get a HC job in the NBA. If he stayed, I don't think annual Sweet 16s and EEs every three years would have been out of the realm of possibility.
So, you talk about no second half adjustments.....and you brag on Beilein......do you not remember the 2nd half against Louisville in the Sweet 16?????? Yeah, shut up.Not a big fan of him personally, but JB. He inherited a train wreck program and handed the keys off to Huggins with a foundation that Huggins has yet to exceed. Say what you want about Huggins and JB, but Huggins had his greatest success here with JB's players as his nucleus.
Would JB have made a FF at WVU? No one knows. But what we do know is that he took Michigan to two NC games and was good enough to get a HC job in the NBA. If he stayed, I don't think annual Sweet 16s and EEs every three years would have been out of the realm of possibility.
That game literally broke my heart. I’ll never forget it. But I think we beat wake forest in the sweet sixteen then played Louisville. I may be wrong.So, you talk about no second half adjustments.....and you brag on Beilein......do you not remember the 2nd half against Louisville in the Sweet 16?????? Yeah, shut up.
If the final sentence becomes the factual scenario then, the TWO individuals MOST ACCOUNTABLE occupy positions called ATHLETIC DIRECTOR and UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT. It is the job of the former to do that which the name implies. To allow the described scenario to continue for three years is, in my lengthy experience of over 50 years dealing with the interviewing, hiring, evaluating, and necessary termination of several dozen individuals would constitute absolute evidence of mismanagement and incompetence. Most of these were trained professional scientists with as much as multiple decades of pertinent experience in their field. The remainder were generally individuals with extensive either of lesser or of non scientific nature.This is assuming JB learned to allow his players to strength train and play tough on the boards which he did not do at WVU. I was more confident of JB's Michigan losing its first title appearance against Petino's Louisville than I was in it's second appearance against that Villanova team that won every tournament game going away. That's because it was obvious that JB's finesse, sharp shooting offense was easily overcome by athletic guys that could speed up the game and get to the rim. It's why JB blew a 20 point lead in the Elite Eight with WVU in 2005.
JB did bring WVU out of a pit that Catelett left the program in after a decade of not giving a crap. But his final NIT season after 2 good runs primarily on the back of Gansey, proved he had his faults just like Huggins. Huggins came along and turned Alexander and Butler into complete players. And in that brief period WVU had the best of Huggins and the best of JB on those teams. Both are good coaches. Both have/had glaring deficiencies they could not or would not address. I do think Huggins style does wring a bit more out of the less than perfect rosters WVU will always have to put on the court. I doubt Beilien takes the Press Virginia rosters to 3 consecutive Big 12 title games and 3 out 4 NCAA Sweet 16 appearances. However I don't think the two styles ate mutually exclusive and Huggins could have tried something different in the half court offense outside of hoping for a good high low combo.
Huggins has had more consistent success than any coach in WVU history and gave WVU its best chance at an NCAA Tournament championship outside of Jerry West leading a Shaus coached team to the title game 63 years ago. He has had a hell of a coaching career, including most of his time at WVU. He is a hall of fame coach and that is undeniable. But he is also starting to show his age and looks tired. Everyone will decline at their job no matter how good they are in their prime. The question is, will Huggins recognize when it is time or will he deny it when his inevitable decline comes and limp to ignominious end to an overall impressive career?
Maybe Huggins can turn around next year and put togetger another team like the 2020-2021 squad. But it also possible and concerning that WVU may watch 3 or more basketball seasons like this one while Huggins tries to go out on one last NCAA dance.
No, I don't. To what game are you referring?So, you talk about no second half adjustments.....and you brag on Beilein......do you not remember the 2nd half against Louisville in the Sweet 16?????? Yeah, shut up.
Agreed. I think that Louisville game was more of a gut-punch defeat to me than the Final Four Duke game years later.That game literally broke my heart. I’ll never forget it. But I think we beat wake forest in the sweet sixteen then played Louisville. I may be wrong.
It was Creighton, Wake Forest, TTU, then Louisville in that order. All games were tight up to the end of regulation.That game literally broke my heart. I’ll never forget it. But I think we beat wake forest in the sweet sixteen then played Louisville. I may be wrong.
No, I don't. To what game are you referring?
Not a big fan of him personally, but JB. He inherited a train wreck program and handed the keys off to Huggins with a foundation that Huggins has yet to exceed. Say what you want about Huggins and JB, but Huggins had his greatest success here with JB's players as his nucleus.
Would JB have made a FF at WVU? No one knows. But what we do know is that he took Michigan to two NC games and was good enough to get a HC job in the NBA. If he stayed, I don't think annual Sweet 16s and EEs every three years would have been out of the realm of possibility.
I remember an Elite Eight game against Louisville. I don’t recall a Sweet 16 against them.
I'll take blowing leads in the Elite Eight vs getting blown out in the 2nd half in what seems like every loss.
Let's face it, any objective fan isn't confident in WVU's chances to win a game with the score is close at halftime. Anyone poster who says they are is lying.
I got the round wrong. But that doesn't change the fact that Beilein blew it. Your responses are the ones that people resort to when they have selective memories.I remember an Elite Eight game against Louisville. I don’t recall a Sweet 16 against them.
If the final sentence becomes the factual scenario then, the TWO individuals MOST ACCOUNTABLE occupy positions called ATHLETIC DIRECTOR and UNIVERSITY PRESIDENT. It is the job of the former to do that which the name implies. To allow the described scenario to continue for three years is, in my lengthy experience of over 50 years dealing with the interviewing, hiring, evaluating, and necessary termination of several dozen individuals would constitute absolute evidence of mismanagement and incompetence. Most of these were trained professional scientists with as much as multiple decades of pertinent experience in their field. The remainder were generally individuals with extensive either of lesser or of non scientific nature.
Were this individual to be allowed to continue in a job, quite obviously beyod his competency, falls on the shoulders of and demonstrates additional incompetency in the form of the President. Both should, at this point, either should have or in the process of being removed by personal action or by the appropriate termination procedure by higher powers that be for gross incompetence causing grave dangers in prescribed ways to the University. The decision to continue as HC does not lie within the perview of the current occupant and is, I am comfident, subject to operational characteristics detailed within his contract. I am sure some of our recent history can easily be characterized as NOT MEETING contract detail.
Time will tell who will do what and when!!
Yeah....they should have fired him after going 24-9 in 97-98 and back to back 20-win seasons while transitioning to the Big East.
Love when morons want to rewrite history.
So when should they have fired Gale?
Careful..don't make up your own narrative...
Who the f is Catelett? So funny when basement dwellers from Slag Hollow try to sound intelligent. Lol