Old Dominion Professor Writes Book Seeking to Destigmatize Pedophilia

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What exactly is the argument here? It’s pretty appalling and they all deserve to go down including the pedo priests and their apologists. Maybe some Catholics can be apologists but everyone outside of that would gladly like to see these types burn.
He's posting a bunch of straw men like a spazzing retard.
 
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Lol "resilience strategy"

Who says these things out loud? It would be like saying it's totally okay you have urges to murder...no it's not and you need serious therapy



Then again these are the same people defending a convicted pedophile for trying to attack a 17 year old juvenile bc apparently it interfered in their "right" to burn a city to the ground bc they were mad a convicted felon who had a warrant out for his arrest tried to kidnap a child then got shot after pulling a knife.
 

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According to the most recent statistics: 1 in 4 girls and 1 in 13 boys experience some form of sexual abuse. 91% of that abuse is perpetrated by someone who is known by the child or the child's family. So unless you are hanging out at a lot of DNC fundraisers or spending time in Gay Pride parades I don't believe you have too much to worry about in terms of a leftist agenda being responsible for raping your child. Instead it is the ignorance that gets people looking for some big boogeyman as opposed to understanding what is going on in their own homes and communities. Child abusers are usually males and their victims are usually females. It is very rare for a child abuser to identify as being a homosexual or transgender. Children are much more at risk from that kindly 'uncle' that the family knows and loves than they are from some political cabal. Step away from the wackadoo message board that is making you feel good because you are fighting evil in the name of American Righteousness and actually pay attention to the things that might make your family and communities safer.
Not sure if you noticed but there's only ONE political party where this behavior is accepted, if not outright encouraged.

Also, getting rid of that party WOULD make our family and community safer.
 
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Never mind all the actual child rape. Just rid of Democrats and let the rest of the country continue raping in peace and harmony.
 

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This thread is fun. Usual clowns show up, drop the Trump bait, and away we go.

The problem here is that the MAPS people are making a real push to be accepted along with the LGBT. They want to hook their wagon to that movement the same way trans people did. MAPS have their own flag, they have lobbyists, and they are openly posting on twitter and other social media.

Gays don't like pedos. Straights don't like pedos. The really ironic thing is that MAPS are using the same playbook the original founders of LGB used to gain acceptance in the eyes of the law. This is coming. You can continue with the cute quips to deflect, but the fact is the left will embrace them because they set the standard and if they turn away now it will delegitimize their precious fringe groups.
 

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This thread is fun. Usual clowns show up, drop the Trump bait, and away we go.

The problem here is that the MAPS people are making a real push to be accepted along with the LGBT. They want to hook their wagon to that movement the same way trans people did. MAPS have their own flag, they have lobbyists, and they are openly posting on twitter and other social media.

Gays don't like pedos. Straights don't like pedos. The really ironic thing is that MAPS are using the same playbook the original founders of LGB used to gain acceptance in the eyes of the law. This is coming. You can continue with the cute quips to deflect, but the fact is the left will embrace them because they set the standard and if they turn away now it will delegitimize their precious fringe groups.
MAPS will not get accepted simply because a child can never give consent. If you really want to ensure that this movement can never gain ground then start going into multiple states in this country and ask their citizens to demand that the legal age of consent between a minor and an adult get raised to 18.

As an aside, no political party in this country is supporting a pro-pedophile agenda. If you have proof that one is then present it. You are doing much more harm than good with this nonsense. Your perpetuating this idea that one side is evil and the other is the only option to stopping them. All this does is allow the supposed 'good guys' to get away with any horrible thing they want because they know all they have to do is say something like Pedophile and they can rely on your vote.

If the candidate that you vote for wins office, it is up to you to make certain they live up to their promises and behave admirably in office. The person who voted against them has no power to do this.
 

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Great question. They should be in jail. What does that have to do with a movement to accept pedophilia?
Just more liberal whatboutism. When you confront them about their demented policies they come back with "I'm not worried about "fill in the blank psycho" or "yeah, but what about ....".

They can't defend their stances so they deflect.
 
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Democrats are pedophiles and Republicans are all that’s right in the world! This country would be much better off being a 1 party system!!
For once, instead of using whataboutsm and deflecting can you just admit what that "it" wrote about is a disaster and "it" should be locked up??
 
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Consent is not what makes paedophilia wrong.

Age of consent is a social construct to these people anyway, like other aspects of society and culture within the leftist ideological framework, so it can be done away with.

They've already gone too far with drag queen story hour, schools encouraging gender identity psychosis, and sexualizing children in other ways.
 
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Getting raped by your southern Baptist preacher is healthier than having a story read to you by a drag queen. For sure.
 

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For once, instead of using whataboutsm and deflecting can you just admit what that "it" wrote about is a disaster and "it" should be locked up??

It’s not a whataboutism at all, it’s a summary of the responses in this thread. I bet 75% of the people in this thread vote straight down party line.
 

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It’s not a whataboutism at all, it’s a summary of the responses in this thread. I bet 75% of the people in this thread vote straight down party line.
It doesn't matter why you think it sucks - party line, etc. It's the fact that you immediately think to go to " but what about. ." instead of immediately condemning it. You were justifying and deflecting it because you do not like someone's political view who may also disagree with the situation.

Hopefully you see the wisdom in what I typed and think about it a little bit.
 
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It doesn't matter why you think it sucks - party line, etc. It's the fact that you immediately think to go to " but what about. ." instead of immediately condemning it. You were justifying and deflecting it because you do not like someone's political view who may also disagree with the situation.

Hopefully you see the wisdom in what I typed and think about it a little bit.

I didn’t do a whataboutism. A whataboutism would’ve been me saying “Well what about Republican so and so that participated in covering up rape!!” Instead I just wrote a stupid post talking about how people in here are acting like if you vote differently from them you’re a pefophile, which is ridiculous. Just re-read the posts. Whataboutism is terrible I agree. I’m not into politics.
 

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So just to be clear -- you're more worried about a couple of trans-centric therapists than you are ACTUAL CHILD RAPE.

Got it.


Watch out for that trans boogey man. It's coming to get you!!!
 

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I didn’t do a whataboutism. A whataboutism would’ve been me saying “Well what about Republican so and so that participated in covering up rape!!” Instead I just wrote a stupid post talking about how people in here are acting like if you vote differently from them you’re a pefophile, which is ridiculous. Just re-read the posts. Whataboutism is terrible I agree. I’m not into politics.

Sticking your head in the sand, pretending this isn't a real issue, isn't any better.

And yes, I've voted "left" plenty of times.

Never again, so long as things are "progressing" as they are at least.
 

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Just so we are all clear:

1. There is no national party that is supporting Pedophilia or Child Molestation
2. There is no link between those supporting Gay Rights or Transgender Rights to any movement supporting normalizing Pedophilia
3. There is no link between homosexuality/transgender and Pedophilia/Child Molestation. Actually it is very rare
4. Most children are abused by someone who they know, or who is known by the family
5. Most children who are abused are female, and most abusers are male

If there is any actual evidence to the contrary then provide it. Otherwise, let's not keep throwing around false accusations. If you really want to protect children, as opposed to grinding some political axe or discriminating against things you just don't like then it is important to understand where the threats to children truly lie.

Why do you think these stories about religious leaders and teachers and other people in authority abusing children keep playing out? It's because parents trust that kindly person that they had over for dinner or who offered to help their child after school and they distrust that person who obviously looks and acts different.
 

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ODU has placed Walker on leave...Lord willing they will do the right thing and fire her.

She explicitly stated that attraction to minors is NOT immoral...distgusting.
 

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Just so we are all clear:


3. There is no link between homosexuality/transgender and Pedophilia/Child Molestation. Actually it is very rare
How is there no link to homosexuality and pedophilia? Oh, I'm very aware of the lengths people will go to in order to make the gay community face absolutely no criticism considering the propaganda that has been funded and rampant the last few decades but just critical thinking should challenge this.

This is from WaPo in 2002, a time when this piece could actually get printed.

"In fact, the real scandal is that the press has failed to adequately investigate the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse. The Family Research Council has just released a comprehensive report on the subject, which connects the dots. The report, titled "Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse," brings to light some significant findings:

* Pedophiles are invariably males: A report by the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children states: "In both clinical and non-clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male." The book "Sexual Offending Against Children" reports that only 12 of 3,000 incarcerated pedophiles in England were women.

* Significant numbers of victims are males: A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy found that "approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males."

* Homosexuals make up less than 3 percent of the population, not "8 to 10 percent" as your article reported. A recent study in Demography estimates the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general population at 2.5 percent and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4 percent.

* Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 percent to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found that although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.
 
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I haven't read this book. I didn't even know it existed, so I can't confirm or deny its content. However, according to the post the person says specifically "there are 10 year olds engaging in oral sex". It doesn't say a 10 year old and an adult. If this is true, then this book may be doing lots of things, but it is not normalizing Pedophilia. Unless there is something in that story about a child and an adult having sex is has nothing to do with the topic. One isn't the same as the other. Two kids having sex with each other isn't going to 1) encourage them to suddenly have sex with an adult or 2) encourage them to grow up and abuse children.

Again, the book may not be appropriate for a school library. Without reading it I have no idea. But just because it doesn't belong in a school library doesn't mean it is promoting pedophilia.
 
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How is there no link to homosexuality and pedophilia? Oh, I'm very aware of the lengths people will go to in order to make the gay community face absolutely no criticism considering the propaganda that has been funded and rampant the last few decades but just critical thinking should challenge this.

This is from WaPo in 2002, a time when this piece could actually get printed.

"In fact, the real scandal is that the press has failed to adequately investigate the link between homosexuality and child sexual abuse. The Family Research Council has just released a comprehensive report on the subject, which connects the dots. The report, titled "Homosexuality and Child Sexual Abuse," brings to light some significant findings:

* Pedophiles are invariably males: A report by the American Professional Society on the Abuse of Children states: "In both clinical and non-clinical samples, the vast majority of offenders are male." The book "Sexual Offending Against Children" reports that only 12 of 3,000 incarcerated pedophiles in England were women.

* Significant numbers of victims are males: A study of 457 male sex offenders against children in Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy found that "approximately one-third of these sexual offenders directed their sexual activity against males."

* Homosexuals make up less than 3 percent of the population, not "8 to 10 percent" as your article reported. A recent study in Demography estimates the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general population at 2.5 percent and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4 percent.

* Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 percent to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children. A study in the Journal of Sex Research found that although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses.
This is an opinion piece sent to the Washington Post by a group called the Family Research Council. They are a fundamentalist group who's main issue for existing is to lobby against rights for homosexuals. There information is incredibly biased.

But even looking through the arguments they make here it is easy to debunk them:

1) Pedophiles are mostly male - that is true
2) Significant number of victims are male. That is true, but a much greater number are female. This completely ignores that fact. He even says that of 457 male sex offenders interviewed in a study, only one-third directed their activity towards males. What he doesn't mention in this piece is how many of those men who attacked young boys actually identify as gay. If statistics hold that number won't be high.
3) He is arguing about the percentage of homosexuals in society. No idea where he gets his numbers or even why he is arguing this. Current numbers for the US have about 6% of the population self identifying as gay.
4) He claims to have information from the Journal of sex research but there is no citation. Even if it is true, it would argue that homosexuals only make up a third of sex abuse cases. Meaning, again, that heterosexuals are much more likely to commit this crime.

As scandalous as this author tries to make this, he ultimately only reinforces the fact that heterosexual males are the most likely culprits for child sexual abuse. But that never makes for good headlines, especially when the organization you represent has a very specific political agenda.

If you really want to protect children from sexual abuse here is a good place for resources.
 

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Colleague of this academic's "work" to normalize paedophilia.


 
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Once again, I haven't read the book. My guess is that the people who are raising accusations of pedophilia in the book haven't read it either. According to the author:

He said that, contrary to allegations circulating online, the book does not describe or contain pedophilia. The scene people seem to be upset about, Evison said, involves an adult man recalling a sexual encounter he had with another fourth-grader when he was in fourth grade.

To further distance Pedophilia from Homosexuals/Transgenders every major organization that supports both of these causes has uniformly come out against pedophilia.

Just because these groups are using the same tactics doesn't mean that they will have any success with it. Let's say I wanted to start a movement to give citizenship to dogs. I may be completely committed to the cause. I may write books about it to try and get people on my side. I may even follow the strategies of other successful legislative efforts. At the end of the day, however, I have to get people on my side. Guess what, it's a non-starter. No one wants to give a cavapoo the vote, just like no one wants to say its OK for a 60 year old to start dating at an elementary school.

Congress just successfully passed an infrastructure bill that they have been trying to get through for decades. We literally have bridges falling down and water systems poisoning cities, and it still took decades for it to get approval. Even given the nature of the need, members of congress still received death threats for voting for this bill.

How in the world do you think that A) enough members of congress would come together to vote for the "It's OK to molest Children act"? and b) how long before someone put a bullet in the head of everyone who supported it? Heck it might be members of their own staff or party who pull the trigger. Pedophilia is a psychological disorder that effects a very small minority. Most people are hardwired to protect children. That isn't changing. There is no local, regional or national desire to make it OK to sexual abuse children. How, or where, this nonsense got started is beyond me, but can people start using just the smallest amount of common sense before they start believing everything they read on the internet?
 

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These attacks against a well-known and widely-respected member of the child sexual abuse prevention community are based on nothing more than misinformation and stigma, all fueled by some individuals' desire to virtue-signal their hatred of pedophilia rather than support "evidence-backed child protection initiatives" and research. As a result, many members of the prevention community have taken to Twitter to express their disappointment at how the students and administrators at Old Dominion University handled the situation.


Dr. Skye Stephens, an associate professor of psychology at Saint Mary's University, writes "V[ery] frustrated to see the media coverage of Allyn Walker and the response of ODU to place them on administrative leave. The crux of what Walker writes...is widely accepted in the field."

 
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