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Wow...

Bronco and SHG cakewalk - at least through the 3 week perspective. Edgy ranked 0-3 PC and I can't disagree.

Good lord IHSA..you ruined IL by going to 8 classes, not to mention all the arguments you started by doing the same.
 
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The only thing that makes me nervous is PC sneaking in at 5-4 and causing some potential damage. The field is thin this year though. CG and HS will be trouble, but not many others.
 
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Thank you IHSA for making it a cake walk for the Broncos...a rule set up to screw them, you now have it so they avoid the two best teams who would have given them the biggest challenge in the north playoffs, JCA and Naz....things that make you go DUH. Provi is an absolute wow, for how they have started. its a long season but looking good for Bronco so far.
 
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The classes are always a roller coaster, so the "punishment" can work or not, depending on the year. This year it looks like it backfires, which makes all the more odd.
 
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All.... It's a bit early talking about cakewalks and of course some football power teams are still on the bubble and could end up in a different class. I do find it amusing though that the success formula has handed a couple of teams a free road to finally make it to DeKalb this year.... Ratsy
 
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psspfan said:
Thank you IHSA for making it a cake walk for the Broncos...a rule set up to screw them, you now have it so they avoid the two best teams who would have given them the biggest challenge in the north playoffs, JCA and Naz....things that make you go DUH. Provi is an absolute wow, for how they have started. its a long season but looking good for Bronco so far.
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pssp: a great observation on your point, and one a few of us have been making for some time. the ihsa, in their nearsightedness, overplayed their cards - bad. They expanded from 6-8 to give more public schools a chance to win. It did the opposite; it spread out the "problem schools" and ironically, made it easier for them to win.

But wait, there's more...and its the best part.

The IHSA - in a clearly prejudical way, only applied their silly bump up rule to private schools. And as a result..they likely will have either shg or bronco as champion this season...instead of having them play naz and jca in 5a.

OK...i won't make any guarantees, it's week 3...but if things stay the same, one of the two of them not winning would require a major upset (at least 1).
 
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If Naz were to go 6A all bets are off and someone should just give the damn trophy to Sharp & The Gang today.

StF is young. I'm anxious to see them live. A young, solid team in the playoffs with nothing to lose could cause issues.

If Providence slips in, 6A could turn into a bloodbath on the Northern half.
 
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JCHILLTOPPERS said:
Wow...

Bronco and SHG cakewalk - at least through the 3 week perspective. Edgy ranked 0-3 PC and I can't disagree.

Good lord IHSA..you ruined IL by going to 8 classes, not to mention all the arguments you started by doing the same.
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I'm saying it now...CG will be a contender..keep an eye on them
 
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That's why true seedings are needed in 5A and 6A. There are strong teams in both but they all land in the north. It's time for the IHSA to stop giving SHG a free ride to the finals.

SHG has basically two teams on it's schedule all year -- Rochester and then the finals.

Wassup
 
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Gotta remember that being "Successed" also includes another class move up to 7A the following year.....and if they went from 5 to 7 would we be having this same discussion for Montini and SHG in 7A? no and that's the IHSA's final agenda
 
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All.... So now you are unhappy where cities are located Wassup. Since you are so concerned about geography was it among others Crossbones that suggested a multiplier based upon population density. Hmm.... Ratsy
 
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If Naz were to go 6A all bets are off and someone should just give the damn trophy to Sharp & The Gang today.

StF is young. I'm anxious to see them live. A young, solid team in the playoffs with nothing to lose could cause issues.

If Providence slips in, 6A could turn into a bloodbath on the Northern half.
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All.... Should NLP end up in 6A they could very well end up in the "southern" bracket of 16. As I mentioned before there are not many 6A teams in the south and fewer that qualify for post-season play. New Lenox is quite close to the cut line. Ratsy
 
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The move to 8 classes was not to allow more publics to win titles.
It was all about $$$$!
 
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6A was worse last year. 5A and 6A are horrible.if Cary is 6A it would add to it as u would have LWW, Cary, Montini (last six 5A title games) and SHG (last 2 5A titles) It woulda been a little more tolerable if SF was applied to publics. Rochester 5A then. I like the multiplier and SF but I think "success" must be applied to both privates and publics.
 
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actually I would argue 6A is much better then last years. u took two best 5A teams/programs according to SF and put them there and Cary 7A runner up might be there.This year u would have to win at least 2 tough games, last year 1 tops
 
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Hornets could end up in southern half of bracket.
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Hmmm. I guess it could happen depending on how many down state teams make it in. Last year Lemont ended up in south bracket and is not all that far from HS. If PC makes it in, they may end up in south bracket as well (further south than HS).
 
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DeanOfSelection said:
actually I would argue 6A is much better then last years. u took two best 5A teams/programs according to SF and put them there and Cary 7A runner up might be there.This year u would have to win at least 2 tough games, last year 1 tops
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call me crazy but I think Cary definitely has the potential to knock out a SHG or Montini team.
 
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call me crazy but I think Cary definitely has the potential to knock out a SHG or Montini team.
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I don't think it's crazy but do think it's a long shot.

I'm surprised the bronco fans don't lIke this bronco team more than they do. They look as good as the others to me. Imo, way better than last year's team.
 
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JCHILLTOPPERS said:
I don't think it's crazy but do think it's a long shot.

I'm surprised the bronco fans don't lIke this bronco team more than they do. They look as good as the others to me. Imo, way better than last year's team.
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Cary is always overlooked but always ends up proving everybody wrong. A lot of those kids played against their opponents 1st string team last season because of how lob sided the scores were from last years 13-1 7A state runner up team. They're not as good as last years team but I wouldn't be surprised if they made a state visit this year in 6a. The seniors and juniors both each made it to the superbowl as 8th graders in the tcfyl. That doesn't mean a lot but its something to look at.
 
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Cary is always overlooked but always ends up proving everybody wrong. A lot of those kids played against their opponents 1st string team last season because of how lob sided the scores were from last years 13-1 7A state runner up team. They're not as good as last years team but I wouldn't be surprised if they made a state visit this year in 6a. The seniors and juniors both each made it to the superbowl as 8th graders in the tcfyl. That doesn't mean a lot but its something to look at.
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Whoa, C-G doesn't get a ton of chatter on here, but they are well respected, make no mistake.
 
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mchsalumni said:
Whoa, C-G doesn't get a ton of chatter on here, but they are well respected, make no mistake.
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Week 1 victory over prairie ridge is starting to look more impressive. Pr the following week beat grayslake central 70-0 then last week they beat crystal lake central 41-7
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Whoa, C-G doesn't get a ton of chatter on here, but they are well respected, make no mistake.
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A CG vs Montini/SHG
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Whoa, C-G doesn't get a ton of chatter on here, but they are well respected, make no mistake.[/QUOTE IF they can handle Huntley(ranked 12th on the Daily herald)@huntley next week I'll like carys chances in the playoffs
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JCHILLTOPPERS said:
I'm surprised the bronco fans don't lIke this bronco team more than they do. They look as good as the others to me. Imo, way better than last year's team.
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Don't confuse the majority of Bronco fans with mchsalumni. He is notoriously pessimistic regarding Montini.

I think it's still too early to call 6A a weak field other than SHG and Montini. C-G is lurking and has a big game against Huntley in a few weeks. LWN beat Sandburg (a team that has beaten 8A teams NN and Bolingbrook) and a pretty good Richards team, who also may be heard from in 6A. Hinsdale South has the talent to beat anyone in 6A. LWW might still be a 6A team. etc. etc.
 
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pjjp said:
Don't confuse the majority of Bronco fans with mchsalumni. He is notoriously pessimistic regarding Montini.

I think it's still too early to call 6A a weak field other than SHG and Montini. C-G is lurking and has a big game against Huntley in a few weeks. LWN beat Sandburg (a team that has beaten 8A teams NN and Bolingbrook) and a pretty good Richards team, who also may be heard from in 6A. Hinsdale South has the talent to beat anyone in 6A. LWW might still be a 6A team. etc. etc.
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I'm excited for that CG vs Huntley... winner probably wins conference.
 
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It's early. But agree with JChill. Montini has not had a team with this much speed and talent at one time. It's a long season and if key linemen go down, it will change entire playoff picture for bronco.
 
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pjjp said:
Don't confuse the majority of Bronco fans with mchsalumni. He is notoriously pessimistic regarding Montini.

I think it's still too early to call 6A a weak field other than SHG and Montini. C-G is lurking and has a big game against Huntley in a few weeks. LWN beat Sandburg (a team that has beaten 8A teams NN and Bolingbrook) and a pretty good Richards team, who also may be heard from in 6A. Hinsdale South has the talent to beat anyone in 6A. LWW might still be a 6A team. etc. etc.
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we wont know until we see the field pairings night. Last year it was awful but it coulda been really good w SHG missing by a team and Cary close. If 6A has Montini, SHG, Cary runs table (might be most underrated program in state), P Ridge goes 8-1, LWW, LWN , Hins S plays 8A Hin C to a score its actually a really good class
 
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DeanOfSelection said:
we wont know until we see the field pairings night. Last year it was awful but it coulda been really good w SHG missing by a team and Cary close. If 6A has Montini, SHG, Cary runs table (might be most underrated program in state), P Ridge goes 8-1, LWW, LWN , Hins S plays 8A Hin C to a score its actually a really good class
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Preseason I was thinking we could see MCHS Cary in one semi and PC and SHG in the other. 5a and 7a finalist playing for 6a title. PC might be a long shot now but LWW and HS could certainly fill that spot. I for one am not sleeping on Cary.
 
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