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SnohomishRed

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Who do you think Iowa would be favored over of the teams currently ranked

  1. Clemson - No
  2. Alabama - No
  3. OU - NO
  4. MSU - no
  5. ND - no
  6. Baylor - No
  7. TOSU - NO
  8. Stanford - No
  9. Michigan - No
  10. Ok state - No
  11. Florida - No but close
  12. FSU - No
  13. North Carolina - yes likely
Hence I say Iowa is about a top 15 team this year
 

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Who do you think Iowa would be favored over of the teams currently ranked

  1. Clemson - No
  2. Alabama - No
  3. OU - NO
  4. MSU - no
  5. ND - no
  6. Baylor - No
  7. TOSU - NO
  8. Stanford - No
  9. Michigan - No
  10. Ok state - No
  11. Florida - No but close
  12. FSU - No
  13. North Carolina - yes likely
Hence I say Iowa is about a top 15 team this year
Maybe Okie St and Florida. Record aside, Iowa should be ranked in the 15-20 range really. Just as the Gators and Cowboys should be also.
 

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There a solid team but they are not great or maybe even good. Like those other teams there missing the game changers or elite guys. There just a team that plays well together. Iowa would be majoly out manned again most of those guys from top to bottum. There only up there with these guys because of a very weak schedule. We will see how good these guys really are Friday and a few weeks from now.
 

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Really the difference between Nebraska and Iowa this season (besides Iowa's cupcake schedule) comes down to a couple things.

Iowa doesn't beat themselves with turnovers/penalties. Nebraska has shot themselves in the foot with them this season.

Iowa forces turnovers and capitalizes on them. Nebraska hasn't been able to consistently force turnovers.
 
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I could see them favored against Florida, Michigan, UNC. But it doesn't really matter, they have won them all and deserve to be ranked where they are. For now :)
 
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Who do you think Iowa would be favored over of the teams currently ranked

  1. Clemson - No
  2. Alabama - No
  3. OU - NO
  4. MSU - no
  5. ND - no
  6. Baylor - No
  7. TOSU - NO
  8. Stanford - No
  9. Michigan - No
  10. Ok state - No
  11. Florida - No but close
  12. FSU - No
  13. North Carolina - yes likely
Hence I say Iowa is about a top 15 team this year
Big difference between being favored and actually beating them. I must have missed the part where you have a national reputation as a football guru. If not take a number a lot of experts ahead of you. Yawn
 

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Who do you think Iowa would be favored over of the teams currently ranked

  1. Clemson - No
  2. Alabama - No
  3. OU - NO
  4. MSU - no
  5. ND - no
  6. Baylor - No
  7. TOSU - NO
  8. Stanford - No
  9. Michigan - No
  10. Ok state - No
  11. Florida - No but close
  12. FSU - No
  13. North Carolina - yes likely
Hence I say Iowa is about a top 15 team this year

Games over the years have often gone the other way.

Maybe teams like Iowa, Nebraska and Wisconsin should give it up; let Michigan, Michigan State and Ohio State simply play. Oh, didn't Nebraska beat MSU and a 7-6 Iowa beat an 11-2 Michigan in 2011.

fwiw

peace
 

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Big difference between being favored and actually beating them. I must have missed the part where you have a national reputation as a football guru. If not take a number a lot of experts ahead of you. Yawn
Well since Iowa never schedules any of these teams its hard to know if they would win - but doubtful - also its an opinion message board sorry if you do not like my opinion

We will find out soon enough how Iowa does in the Big10 title game and their bowl game - heck we might know after the NU game
 

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Stanford lost to Northwestern at Ryan Field 16-6. Iowa wins against Northwestern 40-10 at Ryan Field.

Why are you certain that Stanford would beat Iowa on a neutral field?
Northwestern also lost to Michigan 38-0, who lost to Utah who Stanford beat - you can play that game with any team

Stanford has played a much tougher schedule than Iowa and has beaten some really good teams that is why they would be favored
 
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Who do you think Iowa would be favored over of the teams currently ranked

  1. Clemson - No
  2. Alabama - No
  3. OU - NO
  4. MSU - no
  5. ND - no
  6. Baylor - No
  7. TOSU - NO
  8. Stanford - No
  9. Michigan - No
  10. Ok state - No
  11. Florida - No but close
  12. FSU - No
  13. North Carolina - yes likely
Hence I say Iowa is about a top 15 team this year
I agree they probably wouldn't be favored but outside of Alabama (a rich man's Iowa) and Clemson, I think they stand a good shot against any of the others for the reasons Metal mentioned
 

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Big difference between being favored and actually beating them. I must have missed the part where you have a national reputation as a football guru. If not take a number a lot of experts ahead of you. Yawn
Why even go to message boards if the only people's opinion you think worth hearing is the 'experts'. These message boards have little more insight than the random dudes who talk like they know something at your local bar, doesn't mean talking about opinions or offering different opinions is less enjoyable. This is just entertainment, don't take these boards seriously. Almost everyone here, and on all message boards, is full of ****.
 
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I agree they probably wouldn't be favored but outside of Alabama (a rich man's Iowa) and Clemson, I think they stand a good shot against any of the others for the reasons Metal mentioned
Doubtful and their history states otherwise

Since NU joined the Big10 here is the records for NU and Iowa vs TOSU,MSU,PSU,MI and Wi

NU is 10 wins 8 losses
Iowa is 4 wins and 8 losses

Iowa has played a fairly easy schedule since we joined the Big10 we have 6 more games against the top competition and yet we have still done better - make no mistake Iowa would get blasted by most of these teams
 
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Northwestern also lost to Michigan 38-0, who lost to Utah who Stanford beat - you can play that game with any team

Stanford has played a much tougher schedule than Iowa and has beaten some really good teams that is why they would be favored

You just took a common opponent comparison and then stretched it way too far. I'm not playing games, but apparently you are.
 

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We all know ut doesn't matter how a common oppent does against another team, just like the Huskers, teams change and improve over the course of the season. The Huskers are no where near the same team they where from mid season till now. Night and day.
 

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You Hawkeye fans are really setting yourselfs up for a major disappointment tomorrow. You keep throwing Purdue up and a lot of other games up to show we are a trash team and can't even sniff tue Hawkeyes sneakers. You guys really need to ignore the early games and focus on the MSU game and Rutgers games, then you will see the Husker team you guys will be playing.
 

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You just took a common opponent comparison and then stretched it way too far. I'm not playing games, but apparently you are.
No you are trying to buildup Northwestern to make Iowa look better. By that reasoning since Michigan beat Northwestern by 38 and you won by 30 Michigan would beat you by 8
 

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agree but they control their own destiny and will be in the playoff if they win out ... we would have traded places with them anytime in the last 10-15 years
You Hawkeye fans are really setting yourselfs up for a major disappointment tomorrow. You keep throwing Purdue up and a lot of other games up to show we are a trash team and can't even sniff tue Hawkeyes sneakers. You guys really need to ignore the early games and focus on the MSU game and Rutgers games, then you will see the Husker team you guys will be playing.

If Tommy plays like he did against Rutgers - 3 picks leading to 14 points which easily could have been 21 - we get absolutely rolled. We essentially couldn't run our offense in the second half because a complete lack of faith in Armstrong.
 

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Huskersalts=Cooter Ray "We all know ut doesn't matter how a common oppent" Spell much? But when you make statements like this or the following: "There a solid team but they are not great or maybe even good." You have no credibility.

 

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No you are trying to buildup Northwestern to make Iowa look better. By that reasoning since Michigan beat Northwestern by 38 and you won by 30 Michigan would beat you by 8

Wrong! NW played at Michigan. Iowa played at NW. Big difference.

The Stanford Iowa comparison involves two teams playing at NW. It's a common opponent on a common field.
 

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Stanford lost to Northwestern at Ryan Field 16-6. Iowa wins against Northwestern 40-10 at Ryan Field.

Why are you certain that Stanford would beat Iowa on a neutral field?

Northwestern seems to upset someone every year. You seem to be confusing an upset win with the absurd notion that Northwestern is a better team than Stanford. Do you also believe that Iowa State has been a better team than Iowa since Ferentz arrived in Iowa City?

Iowa is certainly capable of the upset but Stanford would win 8 of 10 times.

FYI - There are teams outside of the Top 15 that would also be favored over Iowa on a neutral field.
 

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Maybe Okie St and Florida. Record aside, Iowa should be ranked in the 15-20 range really. Just as the Gators and Cowboys should be also.

While many teams ranked behind Iowa would be favored over Iowa, I do believe that an undefeated Big 10 team deserves to be ranked in the Top 5 (going into the last week of the season) regardless of whether I think they are one of the best teams in the country.
 
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Northwestern seems to upset someone every year. You seem to be confusing an upset win with the absurd notion that Northwestern is a better team than Stanford. Do you also believe that Iowa State has been a better team than Iowa since Ferentz arrived in Iowa City?

Iowa is certainly capable of the upset but Stanford would win 8 of 10 times.

FYI - There are teams outside of the Top 15 that would also be favored over Iowa on a neutral field.

LOL at you! Spin as you wish.
 

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Im no expert, if so i wouldn't be on a free board talking to you guys. I admit English class (spelling) was not a strong suite of mine, give me math, science or sports and im golden. But lose of credibility because of my spelling being off, nitpick much? You look at any of my posts or replies you'll notice i take no bother nor give anyone crap about SPELLING or mis use of words. Lets face, its a sports board, not college debate, spelling B or political board. But point taken, ill slow it down and spell check, hate to lose credibility due to misspelled word or improper phasing or use of words. Sorry guys and gals.
 

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What I find pathetic is the attempt by Iowa to build up Northwestern - Northwestern is the little train that could - they play smart but really do not have the talent to compete at the highest levels - they can beat a team to be sure if you are not careful as Nu found out this year and Stanford found out also

Decent defense - poor offense -but far from some elite win
 

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Here is my best. This game will be a good one that could go either way. Iowas chances of winning are decent, they need to play there style of game, being able to run at will and be on with there play action. They also need a little help from Tommy Armstrong, if hes off on his throws and making some bad choices Iowa SHOULD win.

Huskers should win if they keep from turning the ball over, Tommys on hus mark and can get Cross/ Newby and Jano running the ball for 4 yards or more. The other key is to stop Iowas RBs and make them throw but most of all they need to contain Iowa's QB from scrambling for huge yards.

Special teams i BELIEVE favors the Huskers and could be what decides tue game. Our punter is elite and could save our a$$es a few times by flipping the field. Id alsi take Drew Brown over Iowa's kicker anyday, hes been money the last 3/4 of the year. He can nail em from 50 plus and is dam near automatic from 45 and under. The return game, well i have no idea who's better here. Since we put S Morgan back there our kick return game has been good and Westercamp is pretty solid at Punt return as well.

Huskers 37
Iowa 17
 

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What I find pathetic is the attempt by Iowa to build up Northwestern - Northwestern is the little train that could - they play smart but really do not have the talent to compete at the highest levels - they can beat a team to be sure if you are not careful as Nu found out this year and Stanford found out also

Decent defense - poor offense -but far from some elite win

Without a doubt, Iowa & Northwestern have been the beneficiaries of the coaching transitions at Nebraska & Wisconsin. I'm not sure if either of them are much different than previous years but instead have taken advantage of a watered down division.
 
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You Hawkeye fans are really setting yourselfs up for a major disappointment tomorrow. You keep throwing Purdue up and a lot of other games up to show we are a trash team and can't even sniff tue Hawkeyes sneakers. You guys really need to ignore the early games and focus on the MSU game and Rutgers games, then you will see the Husker team you guys will be playing.

No matter how you look at it, Iowa has played consistently the entire season, Nebraska hasn't. I'm not in any way saying Iowa is going to win tomorrow, but I am saying Iowa is going to play very solid football, offensively, defensively and special teams, there are no weaknesses on this team. Iowa's seniors have taken it upon themselves to change the football culture at Iowa, and they've been very successful, the record proves that. The game that forged the change was last year's game against Nebraska, so this years game has more to it for Iowa than just defending their undefeated record. The Nebraska AD also made a disparaging comment regarding Iowa when Bo was fired, and that will also have a bearing on Iowa's performance tomorrow as well. Good luck tomorrow, see you around 2.
 
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Really the difference between Nebraska and Iowa this season (besides Iowa's cupcake schedule) comes down to a couple things.

Iowa doesn't beat themselves with turnovers/penalties. Nebraska has shot themselves in the foot with them this season.

Iowa forces turnovers and capitalizes on them. Nebraska hasn't been able to consistently force turnovers.
You do realize that Iowa and Nebraska have extremely similar schedules minus Nebraska playing Michigan st?
 
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My main deal is i pray there's no injuries of any sort to Iowa and of course my Huskers and i deffently want the refs to let the kids play, no ticky tack calls or being inconsistent and calling bs fouls on one team and allowing the other to get away with murder. I want the winner to flat out win without any excuses or help. I just want a heads up football game where both teams show up, both teams have there best players out there, play there best and one team walks away a winner. I don't care if it falls in the Huskers favor or not, i want us to play Iowa's best and get there best and beat them that way and of course vise versa. Heres to a great game and hopefully not one where the refs force a loss or win.

Go Big Red and good luck Hawkeyes but not to much luck.
 
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I'll give BYU and Pitt is a draw but outside that, your schedule is weaker, maybe not by a lot but it is weaker. ISU does not equal the Miami Hurricanes or even close, big time difference in talent. Then you add in a true top 10 team like MSU, thats where it tilts it in our favor as having a stronger schedule. If you played one of the big boys in the Big 10 outside the Huskers, it would be close. But you didnt get OSU, MSU, UM or PSU. Just be real, you guys had it hooked up this year and you guys did exactly what your suppose to that's why your 11-0.
 
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bottom line is that 11 games into the season Iowa controls its own destiny with regards to a national title - something that we have been trying to achieve for almost 20 years and counting
 

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bottom line is that 11 games into the season Iowa controls its own destiny with regards to a national title - something that we have been trying to achieve for almost 20 years and counting

Touche'
 

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Really the difference between Nebraska and Iowa this season (besides Iowa's cupcake schedule) comes down to a couple things.

Iowa doesn't beat themselves with turnovers/penalties. Nebraska has shot themselves in the foot with them this season.

Iowa forces turnovers and capitalizes on them. Nebraska hasn't been able to consistently force turnovers.
Exactly...simply do not make mistakes and makes you pay if you make one.What makes a good football team...
 

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I'm not saying Iowa has an equal schedule to Nebraska by any means but it is wayyyyy closer than some fans have eluded. Also, I don't consider Nebraska a "big boy" in terms of relevance in the big ten. Nebraska is in the same tier as Wisconsin, Iowa, and Michigan st.

Back to my point. Let's compare different opponents, no need to compare the opponents we have both faced because that has been beaten to death (5-0 vs 1-4)


8-3 BYU = 8-3 Pitt. If both teams are 100% it would be a great game. Slight edge to Pitt because they play in a major conference
5-5 South Alabama = 9-2 Illinois st (I personally think #4 FCS ISU would beat SA)
Miami slightly > Iowa st. Yes I'm serious. Miami is a joke
Southern Miss > North Texas. No argument there
Mich st > Purdue no argument obviously
Indiana > Rutgers. Should be no argument
 

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As I said, no question that Nebraska's schedule is better but the argument that they have a night and day different schedule than Iowa in terms of difficulty is quite stale