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That’s a good sign for Ono and folkstyle. Desmond is better in folk and good on the mat. I would love to know how the match unfolded
Anyone know how the question of years of eligibility for Ono got settled ?
And I assume Ono is a more natural 133 pounder, would there have been a wrestle off with Marcus for 133?
Pretty interesting development. Cael does give the kids a fair amount of autonomy determining where they want to wrestle.
I think most including myself learned towards Ono staying at 133 and Marcus moving up. I feel pretty sure Marcus will move up eventually if he can fill out just a tad.
Ono is a pretty small dude and somewhat already thick. I won't be shocked to hear he is weighing in, in the upper 130s, while having to wrestle against studs who walk around near 150. Not the best recipe for getting out on bottom, or riding out on top. He should be the quickest kid in the country from neutral though bar none.
I am in the camp that Desmond's beating Luke last year had more to do with room familiarity than an accurate gauge of where Nate is in the national pecking order. I feel pretty confident he is AA caliber, but any assertion he is a top 4 type guy is premature. Hence we really don't have an accurate gauge for Ono either. All said that top 6 at 133 in wrestlestat is a friggin meat grinder, so clearly Marcus has the better shot at a championship at that weight. 141 is far from the same animal.
My initial assumption was the best lineup was flipping Ono and Marcus, which proves once again, what the hell do I know?
Upon reflection a smallish Ono at 141 is hard to argue. Marcus has his work cut out for him, but so too do the rest of the top 6. I believe that if Marcus were to get 20% more offensive against elite competition, he would be close to unstopable, just ask Mitchell and Bo Bassett. It ain't rocket science.
I think most including myself learned towards Ono staying at 133 and Marcus moving up. I feel pretty sure Marcus will move up eventually if he can fill out just a tad.
Ono is a pretty small dude and somewhat already thick. I won't be shocked to hear he is weighing in, in the upper 130s, while having to wrestle against studs who walk around near 150. Not the best recipe for getting out on bottom, or riding out on top. He should be the quickest kid in the country from neutral though bar none.
I am in the camp that Desmond's beating Luke last year had more to do with room familiarity than an accurate gauge of where Nate is in the national pecking order. I feel pretty confident he is AA caliber, but any assertion he is a top 4 type guy is premature. Hence we really don't have an accurate gauge for Ono either. All said that top 6 at 133 in wrestlestat is a friggin meat grinder, so clearly Marcus has the better shot at a championship at that weight. 141 is far from the same animal.
My initial assumption was the best lineup was flipping Ono and Marcus, which proves once again, what the hell do I know?
Upon reflection a smallish Ono at 141 is hard to argue. Marcus has his work cut out for him, but so too do the rest of the top 6. I believe that if Marcus were to get 20% more offensive against elite competition, he would be close to unstopable, just ask Mitchell and Bo Bassett. It ain't rocket science.
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I agree with most all of that… but in your last paragraph, did you mean Marcus when you said Luke?
Hadn’t we heard from somewhere not crazy that Masa would sometimes hit 150 offseason?
Ono strikes me as a kid that prefers not to cut, he's always talking about food in his Social Media
Top 4 at 285 would be a fantastic result.Has anyone else noticed that in Flo’s most recent rankings, Penn St wrestlers are in the top 4 in every weight except 141?
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Just an opinion, but you're going to be pleasantly surprised with the Hwt finish. Assuming good health.
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PSU: Nate Desmond’s Mom confirms the details of his wrestle-off with Ono:
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PSU: Nate Desmond’s Mom confirms the details of his wrestle-off with Ono:
Whaddat say?
It was 3-3 after 2 and Ono won 6-4. She thought Nate should've taken top, but he didn't.
Well, his sister was just wrestling at Bill Farrell and Masa has been training in the US for quite awhile. Don't know what is to be taken from them spending some family time.Ono's parents are in town I heard
That won't last long ....Has anyone else noticed that in Flo’s most recent rankings, Penn St wrestlers are in the top 4 in every weight except 141?
but then again it's Flo rankings. As a PSUer he will have to earn his way up the ladder until January. It's not like he's an in incoming true freshman on OSU
My guess is that Blaze gets a cow from Kasak’s dad with a focus on putting some more muscle on his frame. Based on Marcus still being 19 and his brother’s size and weight gain in college, this is a reasonable plan. Additionally, Marcus just placed 3rd at Senior Worlds in a non-Olympic weight. Now is the window for him to build up to 65 kg- the weight at which he beat current 65 kg world champ Bassett at U23 WTT last year when Blaze was still a 61 kg- in anticipation of ‘28 Olympics. Marcus can take 3 months to get bigger and jump into the lineup in February and be fine for NCAAs. Or he can skip the college season, keep filling out, and focus on winning WTTs at 65kg for 2027. PSU will be fine with Ono and Desmond manning 33/41.
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Interestingly, Ironhead suggested this morning that he expects Ono at 133 against Bloomsburg and that he ultimately expects Blaze at 141, although he didn't say that we'll see him there this week (doesn't mean that we won't, he just didn't say that).
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I’m about the biggest Ono fan out there but him vs Jax and Seidel definitely worry me. They take top and it could be huge problems. I obviously still want to see it though
Exactly. I just want to see it. Jax is probably going to torture him in the scrambles. He may be able to blow through Seidel on a few takedowns though.
Plus - Bassett needs some competition - and Blaze is his last domestic loss.
Just a guess. Perhaps Ono v. Desmond was a wrestle off to see who drops to 133. I would suspect Ironhead would would privy to information we do not have.
To hear Desmond got "both" a reversal and a rideout is not a glowing endorsement for Ono's mat wrestling, especially up a weight. Granted room familiarity and all of that.....
Maybe just maybe Cael intends to validate just how well Ono handles strange opponents during November and December up at 141, before the firm decision to firmly set 133 and 141. I am not a big fan of what that does to seeding if the switch is made in January.
I share the concern that against the gauntlet of Jax, Crookham, Davino, Seidel and even VanDee, it's a pretty tall ask for an undersized guy new to Folkstyle. Even Nolf was ridden out a time or two.
Stanich is tough but I have little doubt Marcus is the huge favorite to be national champ up at 141, and I don't think it's a stretch for Ono to be considered close to a lock for top 4 at 141 a well. 3 point takedowns are going to be huge for Ono and if he can catch and release, including against the better guys he will win regularly with 2-3 TDs, even if controlled while on the mat.
If you reverse it, Marcus has as strong a case to win 133 as any in the top 6, he might even be considered a favorite to make the finals. Nonetheless, anything could happen to any of the top 6, it's the craziest most talented weight for sure. How will Ono fare at 133? It's impossible to say, but a case could be made he's probably looking at low AA.
So which is better,? 133 seems to make it a crap shoot either way. Somewhat realistically:
133 Ono - 5th-8th
141 Blaze - 1st
133 Blaze - 1st-4th
141 Ono - 1st-4th
One way or another I just want to see Ono finally in blue and white, in neutral doing what he does best.
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This is a fun read after Spladle08 (who I think is an OSU (hat division) fan) discounts Ono’s 2024 Worlds Run - hE bEaT a BuNcH oF bUmS!
Choice bit:
“Are you trolling?
Yes he crushed worlds during an olympic year... who did he beat? Vito? Congrats so did Julian Farber.
(YES winning a world title is awesome, but take a beat and look at the bracket he "destroyed" as you put it)
Who participated?”
After other posters pointed out him drilling Uguev 10-2, he proceeds to discount that. Of course, Uguev beat a high school kid with a hat the next year only 10-3 so you know he sucks
Choice bit:
“Are you trolling?
Yes he crushed worlds during an olympic year... who did he beat? Vito? Congrats so did Julian Farber.
(YES winning a world title is awesome, but take a beat and look at the bracket he "destroyed" as you put it)
Who participated?”
After other posters pointed out him drilling Uguev 10-2, he proceeds to discount that. Of course, Uguev beat a high school kid with a hat the next year only 10-3 so you know he sucks
Ono is probably going to have learning curve no matter what weight he goes with his strength and quickness he should get better very soon.
If Masa Ono is really good in folk style this year, my favorite pivot for haters will be the inevitable - why are we letting foreigners take the spot of American kids in college!!!!!
All this speculation is driving me nuts. Most of it is coming from a position of ignorance.
I just hope the kid gets on the mat and shows, one way or the other, how good he can be in Folk.
I just hope the kid gets on the mat and shows, one way or the other, how good he can be in Folk.
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