Oregon program helps teachers undo 'racism in mathematics'

[Ukbrassowtipin]

OP and other probably need to read this important document

I saw some quotes from che Guevara...so we should also murder thousands including gays?

Let me know how racist math is if you hire someone that doesn't understand it to build your house....or anything

Agaon..its all supposedly racist...but of course we have to ignore that when another race, like Asians, excel at it...then of course that discrimination is acceptable

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Reminds me, I know this chick that always touts that she has a masters in political science so she thinks she knows everything about every issue.

So I was like is it in constitutional law? No. Oh, how about foreign policy? No. Analytics? No. Its a political science in social justice. Lol. In other words, she's not employable bc its a nonsense degree...but instead she blames it on white males or whatever. Quite the grift that field has created.

 

[UKwizard]

Hey thread

 

[Crayfish57]

You all didn’t read the workbook.

You aptly picked your name and it is an empty bucket

 

[IdaCat]

The left is destroying this country and half the population thinks it's for the better or dgaf. Sickening.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Can geometric proofs be officially deemed racist?

Those goddamn equations are still things of nightmares from my high school sophomore year.

‘Equal or less than’ ???? Really?!? What is math implying here?

Get rid of those white nationalist freaks.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Reminds me, I know this chick that always touts that she has a masters in political science so she thinks she knows everything about every issue.

So I was like is it in constitutional law? No. Oh, how about foreign policy? No. Analytics? No. Its a political science in social justice. Lol. In other words, she's not employable bc its a nonsense degree...but instead she blames it on white males or whatever. Quite the grift that field has created.

Yeah. I saw some news story about a University of Kentucky doctor saying a bunch of idiotic things about COVID. Generally, everything associated with the University of Kentucky College of Medicine is absolutely topnotch and there ain't a lot of fools on staff there.

So I read down the story a bit. She was the dean of the College of Public Health. I feel pretty confident I can safely ignore anyone's opinion who is the dean of public health.

It would actually be a good life strategy to just look at the opinions and behaviors of people with make believe graduate degrees and then do the opposite. You couldn't do that with any legitimate profession. Doing the opposite of quality medical, legal, engineering, accounting, psychology, etc advice is suicide.

Doing the exact opposite of what critical theorists, public health experts, homeopaths, community activists, or professors of any subject where f***ing Foucault is regularly cited say and do is all but certain to make a person happier, healthier, wealthier, and wiser.

 

[John Henry]

Remember when the great leader of the black race, Al Sharpton said to an audience at Kean College in 1994: "We taught philosophy and astrology and mathematics before Socrates and them Greek homos ever got around to it".

And now mathematics is racist. So which is it. Are blacks the most intelligent creatures to ever grace the earth, teaching mathematics before the homo Greeks or a victim of racism in the form of 2=2 = 4.

Any of you liberals know Al Sharpton well enough to get an answer? If so let us know, the white folks need to find out before teaching our children and grandchildren this racist math.

 

[buckethead1978]

I think a lot of it is a grift.

But I think some of you fell for a misleading headline on “right answers.

From my cursory glance through the workbook, they want teachers to show there is more than one way to arrive at a correct answer. That there isn’t one “right path to the answer”.

 

[dgtatu01]

Maybe if everyone actually studied math they would know statistics. If they knew statistics they would understand the concepts of anecdotal evidence and why mathematicians do not extrapolate from an anecdote to reach a conclusion.

Anecdotal evidence is looking at one small sample or even one case from a large population. In any statistical distribution there are a wide array of outcomes so taking one case and making conclusions about the population at large is dangerous. Statisticians generally require a sample size that provides enough variation of outcomes to seem it statistically significant to represent the entire population. This is important when making decisions or forming beliefs.

When a UK fan reads about one person in Oregon writing one paper about something and extrapolating that the country of 330,000,000 people is going to hell has extrapolated a conclusion from one piece of anecdotal evidence that was pulled from the tail ends of the distribution of how people feel.

Yes there are idiots who believe there might be racism in math problem solving structure and yes there are idiots who believe the election was stolen from Trump. Overall though I am quite surprised at how many reasonable people there are in the United States. In fact the mean of the population is a really normal well adjusted person.

Unfortunately with the internet we all have to listen to the fools scream their foolishness. This and the Political Thread here on this site are just examples of the rest of us having to deal with the loonies. Don't worry though most of us are hopeful for the future and we believe just like the rest of human history that intelligence, integrity, and higher minded ideas will prevail despite the low points we have hit in 2020 and early 2021.

Proverbs 18:2
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

 

[buckethead1978]

Hank, are you talking about Dr. Donna Arnett?

She should probably be totally ignored. Her CV is a total joke and she doesn’t know **** about epidemiology.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Hank, are you talking about Dr. Donna Arnett?

She should probably be totally ignored. Her CV is a total joke and she doesn’t know **** about epidemiology.

That's a very impressive CV and I'm not being ironic. I'm sure she's a well qualified expert in her field and she's a very bright scholar.

However, I do not believe that now is the time to be acting like the field of epidemiology is much more than phrenology or chiropractic science either.

 

[buckethead1978]

Ok

 

[Hank Camacho]

Ok

Enjoy wearing your double mask, bucket. Remember, that's the explicit advice from the dean of public health.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Triple mask. Science.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Triple mask. Science.

The Onion Nails It.

 

[warrior-cat]

I kid you not.

Evidently, finding the right answer is a white supremacy construct as is 'showing your work'. A direct quote from the materials:

"The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false, and teaching it is even much less so," the document for the "Equitable Math" toolkit reads. "Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open conflict." Also, the workbook instructs teachers to "identify and challenge the ways that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views."

I've seen a load of horsesh*t in my time but, dang if this might be stupidest thing I've come across. Last time I looked 2+2=4 is, in fact, purely objective and has nothing to do with race. I guess if a minority kid comes up with 2+2=5 it's because of racism.

Where does this nonsense stop? Do the idiots promoting this nonsense actually believe what they're saying or is it just a method of gaining power and/or notoriety?

Nothing is racist anymore. If everything is racist then nothing is racist. Meaning, if you find racism in everything then, everything is equal therefore eliminating racism.

 

[warrior-cat]

I kid you not.

Evidently, finding the right answer is a white supremacy construct as is 'showing your work'. A direct quote from the materials:

"The concept of mathematics being purely objective is unequivocally false, and teaching it is even much less so," the document for the "Equitable Math" toolkit reads. "Upholding the idea that there are always right and wrong answers perpetuate objectivity as well as fear of open conflict." Also, the workbook instructs teachers to "identify and challenge the ways that math is used to uphold capitalist, imperialist, and racist views."

I've seen a load of horsesh*t in my time but, dang if this might be stupidest thing I've come across. Last time I looked 2+2=4 is, in fact, purely objective and has nothing to do with race. I guess if a minority kid comes up with 2+2=5 it's because of racism.

Where does this nonsense stop? Do the idiots promoting this nonsense actually believe what they're saying or is it just a method of gaining power and/or notoriety?

2+2 could equal 5 if one of the couples is of the original sex parings and have a baby.

 

[warrior-cat]

Why? Because we think accusing mathematics of being racist is dumb as ****. You lefties are eat up with everything being racist, get a GD hobby.

He can't see reality for the bucket. He has to agree otherwise everything up to now in his life is meaningless. He is stuck in the ignorance that is wokeness.

 

[warrior-cat]

You all didn’t read the workbook.

Why? If it agrees with what was stated in the OP we would be wasting our time.

 

[warrior-cat]

It is 64 pages. Not hard to read.

Lots of internalized white superiority. I think some of you are definitely at the bottom of the Ladder of Empowerment for White People

Take the bucket off of your head and see reality. or don't and wallow in ignorance.

 

[JumperJack]

I think a lot of it is a grift.

But I think some of you fell for a misleading headline on “right answers.

From my cursory glance through the workbook, they want teachers to show there is more than one way to arrive at a correct answer. That there isn’t one “right path to the answer”.

I get that. Not a bad notion, if it were all that it entailed.

But many of these people are open that they want fundamental methods of finding truth to be altered or even abolished, because for them, truth is derived from identity and experience.

 

[warrior-cat]

Regardless of the politics in education, we’re too focused on standardized testing and a goal of being a college farm system.

I’m fine with folks being required to teach certain things like algebra, literature, etc., but the focus on standardized testing just encourages memorization rather than learning. I’m not an educator, I’ve never taught anyone other than training adults and college students on jobs, so I’m not going to act like a have anything resembling a solution here though.

And the college farm system approach to secondary education needs to be stopped. Not saying we should stop encouraging people to go to college because we need college educated people for numerous jobs like doctors to name one, but not everyone needs to be going to college or being encouraged to go to college. Some kids just aren’t cut out for it. I saw it all the time working with students in college athletics. Some would be much better off going to a trade school. Hell, some who do excel in college could be better off going to a trade school for that matter.

Wow, we can agree on something. It's the end of the world as I know it.

 

[warrior-cat]

Well what if the correct answer to a fill in the blank statement is a racial slur? That would indeed be racist.

Not necessarily if it is used in an artistic forms of expression class. (Not sure if there is such a class but, I could see there being one).

 

[Spica Orbit]

Triple mask. Science.

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100 masks. Then everybody dies & we don't have to worry about the virus or math racism.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Hey warrior cat, maybe don't post 45 times backtobacktobacktobacktoback to every single point you don't like.

 

[warrior-cat]

The hate for everything related to race now has made many people stop thinking in objective terms and are now looking for a reality outside of the norms of physical and rational thinking ending in irrational and impossible results.

Math is math, if the person using it is racist then that person is a racist and not the equation he or she worked out. If really is that simple.

 

[warrior-cat]

Hey warrior cat, maybe don't post 45 times backtobacktobacktobacktoback to every single point you don't like.

Leave me alone, I'm on a roll. But, then again...

 

[UnfrozenCatfanLawyer]

Maybe if everyone actually studied math they would know statistics. If they knew statistics they would understand the concepts of anecdotal evidence and why mathematicians do not extrapolate from an anecdote to reach a conclusion.

Anecdotal evidence is looking at one small sample or even one case from a large population. In any statistical distribution there are a wide array of outcomes so taking one case and making conclusions about the population at large is dangerous. Statisticians generally require a sample size that provides enough variation of outcomes to seem it statistically significant to represent the entire population. This is important when making decisions or forming beliefs.

When a UK fan reads about one person in Oregon writing one paper about something and extrapolating that the country of 330,000,000 people is going to hell has extrapolated a conclusion from one piece of anecdotal evidence that was pulled from the tail ends of the distribution of how people feel.

Yes there are idiots who believe there might be racism in math problem solving structure and yes there are idiots who believe the election was stolen from Trump. Overall though I am quite surprised at how many reasonable people there are in the United States. In fact the mean of the population is a really normal well adjusted person.

Unfortunately with the internet we all have to listen to the fools scream their foolishness. This and the Political Thread here on this site are just examples of the rest of us having to deal with the loonies. Don't worry though most of us are hopeful for the future and we believe just like the rest of human history that intelligence, integrity, and higher minded ideas will prevail despite the low points we have hit in 2020 and early 2021.

Proverbs 18:2
A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

LIBERAL

 

[Hank Camacho]

Dude, "LIBTARD" is the preferred nomenclature.

 

[dgtatu01]

LIBERAL

Dude, "LIBTARD" is the preferred nomenclature.

Get it right dude.

 

[Deeeefense]

Here is a link to the Toolkit mentioned in the Fox News article.


A Pathway to Equitable Math Instruction Dismantling Racism in Mathematics Instruction

I read part of this, I'll have to say this is a masterpiece of word salad, I honestly could not grasp any concept or point that was being advanced.

I have a better idea, rather trying to turn K12 match teachers into sociology PhDs, why don't we, as a country, as a state and as a local school board do everything we can to make sure every kid in America has a good quality, safe school to attend? I think teachers, students and parents would welcome any progress we could make there.

 

[TortElvisII]

we believe just like the rest of human history that intelligence, integrity, and higher minded ideas will prevail

Have you ever heard of what happened in the late 5th century and lasted until about the 15th century? You might want to look into that.

 

[dgtatu01]

Have you ever heard of what happened in the late 5th century and lasted until about the 15th century? You might want to look into that.

But yet enlightenment prevailed.

 

[gamecockcat]

And the college farm system approach to secondary education needs to be stopped. Not saying we should stop encouraging people to go to college because we need college educated people for numerous jobs like doctors to name one, but not everyone needs to be going to college or being encouraged to go to college. Some kids just aren’t cut out for it. I saw it all the time working with students in college athletics. Some would be much better off going to a trade school. Hell, some who do excel in college could be better off going to a trade school for that matter.

100% agree. Several years ago we hosted a teenager from Austria for several weeks. The educational system in Austria seemed like a much better system than what the US has. Around about 4th grade, kids are put on two different paths: one geared towards professional college degrees (accounting, engineering, medicine, sciences, etc.) and one is geared towards practical careers (plumbers, electricians, carpenters, welders, Xray techs, etc.). You can switch paths so your child is not 'stuck'. But, there is NO stigma for either path and each path is rigorous in its own way. Practical careers also include an internship/mentorship.

US community colleges do a pretty good job but even there they are geared as much towards getting students ready to go to a 4-year college rather than getting a dental assistant designation or nurses assistant or certified welder, etc. I'm actually OK with 'free' community college IF they are geared towards giving students skills that are marketable with the goal of gainful employment. If a kid graduates from HS and needs 2 semesters of remedial math at the community college level to 'qualify' for 4-year university, perhaps that kid should get practical skills and an internship. Why struggle to get a general studies degree with a mediocre GPA at a 4-yr university vs skills that are marketable and employable?

 

[CB3UK]

Absolutely disgusting. Blacks should be the ones most upset. They're saying they have to dumb it down for them. And they sadly can't even see that because hey, it reinforces internalized racism! Yay!

 

[TortElvisII]

But yet enlightenment prevailed.

925 years.

 

[IdaCat]

All leftist "progressive" ideas are expressed in word salad. I've had to listen to lectures on this BS and for a higher Ed. job, I had to take and pass tests. I tried to answer the stupid questions like they wanted, but still flunked the "Diversity" test and had to retake it. It's BS with no supporting rational basis.

Enlightenment, lol. The left is doing all they can to destroy rational thought.

 

[warrior-cat]

All leftist "progressive" initiatives are expressed in word salad. I've had to listen to lectures on this BS and for a higher Ed. job, I had to take and pass tests. I tried to answer the stupid questions like they wanted, but still flunked the "Diversity" test and had to retake it. It's BS with no supporting rational basis.

Enlightenment, lol. The left is doing all they can to destroy rational thought.

It's double talk and babble all running back to the initial point that was not or is not ever addressed.

 

[buckethead1978]

You all still just talking about what you think is in the class?