OSU now requires all Students/Staff to be Vaxxed!

[jauk11]

Ah yes. Hence why they’re coming out with booster number 3 because people are starting to get some cold symptoms.

I’m a huge believer in herd immunity. People are going to die either way whether it’s from Covid or other circumstances. I think we would be much better off if we would have isolated the much higher risk people while others continued about their lives. At this point, they’re diluting our own body’s antibodies as opposed to letting them adapt themselves.

The common flu is a perfect example. Some people get the flu shot, others don’t (I don’t). I haven’t had the flu in over 15 years.

At some point you have to let your body do what it’s naturally designed to do and fight off viruses and bacteria.

I get the flu shot every time the VA gives it, and I have never had the flu OR any side effects from the shot.

So?

 

[tntuk]

I say while we are banning stuff let’s start with cigarettes. Lung cancer from smoking kills over 1 million a year. Next go to alcohol, alcoholism and it’s diseases kill 1.5 million per year. Next onto large soft drinks. Being fat and it’s diseases kill 2 million plus Americans a year. What do you all think? You liberals have lost your damn mind. I’ve had Covid a year ago and vaccinated last month but it was MY choice not a government mandate. I’m a business owner and tried to limit my liability for some type of lawsuit.

Liberals have lost their minds because we want to do everything we can to eradicate a virus that has killed millions around the world? Fine - call me crazy for wanting ERs and hospital beds to be free and clear of COVID patients. I’ll
take that as a badge of honor for wanting to look out for my fellow citizens.

Further, as a healthcare professional you know better - this virus, if it’s not under control, will mutate into something worse than the Delta variant.

As for smoking and obesity - there are all kinds of public health campaigns to eradicate both. It’s not as if those problems are being ignored.

 

[Mad Max]

This.
Insurance companies should start charging more for the unvaxxed.

rates are diff for smoking for example.
age.
etc

i simply do not understand how/why someone would be against this life saving vax. Have yet to hear any coherent explanation.

Yup. Not sure if unvaxxed should get FMLA.

not a religious guy, but love the Bible’s wisdom.

the lord helps those who help themselves…

 

[jbboyl0]

Liberals have lost their minds because we want to do everything we can to eradicate a virus that has killed millions around the world? Fine - call me crazy for wanting ERs and hospital beds to be free and clear of COVID patients. I’ll
take that as a badge of honor for wanting to look out for my fellow citizens.

Further, as a healthcare professional you know better - this virus, if it’s not under control, will mutate into something worse than the Delta variant.

As for smoking and obesity - there are all kinds of public health campaigns to eradicate both. It’s not as if those problems are being ignored.

This virus is here to stay. Once the big pharma money is out of the way, prophylactic treatments will be the new norm. Name one other corona virus with a vaccine to the levels of the previous diseases mentioned. None

 

[tntuk]

This virus is here to stay. Once the big pharma money is out of the way, prophylactic treatments will be the new norm. Name one other corona virus with a vaccine to the levels of the previous diseases mentioned. None

So just let it run rampant, mutate, and kill everyone?

 

[Mad Max]

Ah yes. Hence why they’re coming out with booster number 3 because people are starting to get some cold symptoms.

I’m a huge believer in herd immunity. People are going to die either way whether it’s from Covid or other circumstances. I think we would be much better off if we would have isolated the much higher risk people while others continued about their lives. At this point, they’re diluting our own body’s antibodies as opposed to letting them adapt themselves.

The common flu is a perfect example. Some people get the flu shot, others don’t (I don’t). I haven’t had the flu in over 15 years.

At some point you have to let your body do what it’s naturally designed to do and fight off viruses and bacteria.

So take the freedom from people who can’t co trol their circumstance to protect the freedom of those who can but won’t?

Please say I’m misreading and we are not recommending COVID concentration camps for people with diabetes…

and vaccination is the FASTEST and SAFEST way to herd immunity…

 

[jauk11]

Don’t take this offensively, but I literally don’t know what you’re trying to say.

The "laughing" symbol seems to follow whoever posts last, so it appears (To me any way) like I am laughing at the post instead of agreeing with it. And it does the same to the next poster.

So while I am agreeing with the post it appears I am laughing at it, until it laughs at the next poster.

 

[DaytonKat]

So just let it run rampant, mutate, and kill everyone?

Sincere question. What's the CFR for this coronavirus?

 

[jbboyl0]

So just let it run rampant, mutate, and kill everyone?

Didn’t say that but government mandates will not slow this. Look dude, im
Around it everyday. I’m not arguing. It’s gonna have to work it’s way through society and hopefully vaccines slow severity and prophylactics limit disease. This was a genetically modified virus.

 

[WildcatofNati]

The Ohio Legislature is likely to put paid to this, but, as it is, here's a question- are the previously infected exempt, and, if not, why not?

Because it is a fact that prior infection is far more protective than a vaccine. Many Coronabros have a hard time coming to terms with this, as the reinfection thing is a central tenet of their new religion. But breakthrough infections are far more prevalent than reinfections, even accounting for a higher number of a vaccinated populace compared to the number of probably prior infections.

 

[tntuk]

This virus is here to stay. Once the big pharma money is out of the way, prophylactic treatments will be the new norm. Name one other corona virus with a vaccine to the levels of the previous diseases mentioned. None

Also - the other diseases mentioned above arent contagious like Covid-19. But you know that.

 

[jbboyl0]

Yup. Not sure if unvaxxed should get FMLA.

not a religious guy, but love the Bible’s wisdom.

the lord helps those who help themselves…

As long as we charge smokers, drinkers and fattys more sign me up.

 

[tntuk]

Didn’t say that but government mandates will not slow this. Look dude, im
Around it everyday. I’m not arguing. It’s gonna have to work it’s way through society and hopefully vaccines slow severity and prophylactics limit disease. This was a genetically modified virus.

My sister is an ER nurse, and my cousin is a PA. They are around it everyday as well.

 

[WildcatofNati]

Sincere question. What's the CFR for this coronavirus?

CFR is about 1.6% in the USA, and has been in the 1% range for the last few weeks, allowing for a three week lag between cases and deaths. The IFR (the true fatality rate, which is based on all cases, not just known cases) is estimated to be anywhere from .5% to .7% in the USA and probably around .2% for the world (due to the world having a much lower average age than in the USA). The USA IFR will probably drop to around .2% as well, since most of the vulnerable people are vaccinated and the unvaccinated are mostly at an age where the IFR is very, very low in the first place.

 

[jbboyl0]

The Ohio Legislature is likely to put paid to this, but, as it is, here's a question- are the previously infected exempt, and, if not, why not?

Because it is a fact that prior infection is far more protective than a vaccine. Many Coronabros have a hard time coming to terms with this, as the reinfection thing is a central tenet of their new religion. But breakthrough infections are far more prevalent than reinfections, even accounting for a higher number of a vaccinated populace compared to the number of probably prior infections.

Nailed it!

 

[AllCatsEverything5]

I bet Nancy or Barack didn’t require anyone to be vaccinated for their massive gatherings . The only people the government and government entities want to control is normal old people.

 

[CatMan2004]

I get the flu shot every time the VA gives it, and I have never had the flu OR any side effects from the shot.

So?

I used to get the flu shot every year and I would get sick about 2-3 weeks later with the flu. So I stopped getting it and haven’t had the flu is 20+ years.

 

[jauk11]

Great decision. Smart people will prevail! Leave the anti-vaxers at home.

Or drop them off at the graveyard.

 

[tntuk]

The Ohio Legislature is likely to put paid to this, but, as it is, here's a question- are the previously infected exempt, and, if not, why not?

Because it is a fact that prior infection is far more protective than a vaccine. Many Coronabros have a hard time coming to terms with this, as the reinfection thing is a central tenet of their new religion. But breakthrough infections are far more prevalent than reinfections, even accounting for a higher number of a vaccinated populace compared to the number of probably prior infections.

Out of curiosity - do you have a source that provides evidence of what you state is fact…that prior infection is far more protective than a vaccine? I’d genuinely like to read up on that.

 

[tntuk]

I bet Nancy or Barack didn’t require anyone to be vaccinated for their massive gatherings . The only people the government and government entities want to control is normal old people.

Obama definitely did. Not sure about Pelosi.

 

[Mastershake1234a]

I bet Nancy or Barack didn’t require anyone to be vaccinated for their massive gatherings . The only people the government and government entities want to control is normal old people.

Everyone at Obama's party had to take a covid test. Crying emoji crying emoji

 

[AllCatsEverything5]

Everyone at Obama's party had to take a covid test. Crying emoji crying emoji

Ah yes 700 rich people all followed through with that. You do know over 10% of the people there tested positive after as well?

 

[jauk11]

I used to get the flu shot every year and I would get sick about 2-3 weeks later with the flu. So I stopped getting it and haven’t had the flu is 20+ years.

Probably affects everyone differently, but I am sure all those those doctors and others pushing the shots are just trying to get you sick.

 

[WildcatofNati]

Out of curiosity - do you have a source that provides evidence of what you state is fact…that prior infection is far more protective than a vaccine? I’d genuinely like to read up on that.

There are many studies but the best is from Israel, because it is the most encompassing and the most recent.

www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

The Cleveland Clinic also did a study confirming this, though not with quite the stark difference in protection levels.

 

[tntuk]

Ah yes 700 rich people all followed through with that.

Lol. Moving the goal posts a bit? Honestly, it’s a side bar. I’m glad universities are requiring kids to get vaccinated. They are probably the biggest group of Americans still resisting.

 

[tntuk]

There are many studies but the best is from Israel, because it is the most encompassing and the most recent.

www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

The Cleveland Clinic also did a study confirming this, though not with quite the stark difference in protection levels.

Thank u sir!

 

[jauk11]

Exactly.

Would you be alive today without your doctors and their medicines? Honest question

 

[1_COOL_CAT]

If this OK & Good, Then it should be this way for many things as well.

Oh wait, it’s just a sign of things to come…

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

 

[bigbluemist 123]

Lol. Moving the goal posts a bit? Honestly, it’s a side bar. I’m glad universities are requiring kids to get vaccinated. They are probably the biggest group of Americans still resisting.

I don’t agree. My kid will be a junior and took the vaccine. 95% of his fraternity took it. Also, those he keeps in touch with from high school have taken it. Granted that’s a very small sample but I am aware of it.

Those not taking it in my area are 35-60 year olds. Mostly white and mostly Republican. I am a 53 year old white Republican who has taken it

 

[tntuk]

There are many studies but the best is from Israel, because it is the most encompassing and the most recent.

www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

The Cleveland Clinic also did a study confirming this, though not with quite the stark difference in protection levels.

Good stuff. Seems like at some point in the near future (unless there is a mutant strain worse than Delta), with the number of people who have been vaccinated and the number of unvaccinated who have caught Covid, that herd immunity will be reached.

 

[tntuk]

I don’t agree. My kid will be a junior and took the vaccine. 95% of his fraternity took it. Also, those he keeps in touch with from high school have taken it. Granted that’s a very small sample but I am aware of it.

Those not taking it in my area are 35-60 year olds. Mostly white and mostly Republican. I am a 53 year old white Republican who has taken it

Pure speculation on my part. I should have made that clear (my fault). That said my nephew just graduated from college and he hasn’t gotten the vaccine and doesn’t intend to. I just imagine there is many like him. (Guess a lot does depend on political leanings as you point out).

 

[DaytonKat]

CFR is about 1.6% in the USA, and has been in the 1% range for the last few weeks, allowing for a three week lag between cases and deaths. The IFR (the true fatality rate, which is based on all cases, not just known cases) is estimated to be anywhere from .5% to .7% in the USA and probably around .2% for the world (due to the world having a much lower average age than in the USA). The USA IFR will probably drop to around .2% as well, since most of the vulnerable people are vaccinated and the unvaccinated are mostly at an age where the IFR is very, very low in the first place.

Thank you for sharing the information. Interesting. Also appreciate you reminding of the difference between CFR and IFR.

Thanks again.

 

[boo.whoop]

Ahh yes the noted leftist capital of *checks notes* Ohio.

State of Ohio, no. Any University anywhere in the US, yes.

 

[BBBLazing]

It’s pretty comical at this point regarding the extreme these schools are going to considering the virus has very little to no effect whatsoever on primed college athletes

But has a potentially lethal effect on their older coaches, trainers and professors that they spread it to.

 

[jwheat]

IFOs

 

[BBBLazing]

When math and numbers prove science to be ineffective.

What?

 

[BBBLazing]

A lot of people will start getting the Pfizer vaccine now that it’s FDA approved and when Moderna gets approved even more people will get it.

Pretty much everyone willing to get it has. If the final FDA approval improves numbers, great, but I'm not holding my breath.

 

[christophero]

To me the risk in taking the vaccine is far, far, smaller than the risk in not taking it. Plus you can spread it to others, so it's not just a personal choice. If you are isolating at home it's one thing, but if you are on a team, at school or at a job where you have contact with a lot of people you risk catching it and passing it on.

 

[jauk11]

When math and numbers prove science to be ineffective.

As far as Covid goes I am still waiting for that to happen, and it has a LONG way to go. In fact if you can read and understand numbers the opposite seems to be true.

 

[jauk11]

Oregon and Hawaii are drowning in Covid despite the strictest vaccine and masking mandates in the country. It's pure hubris to think you can control this virus via government mandate.

LOL, what do you think almost wiped out smallpox if it wasn't a government mandate AND vaccinations? I still have a small scar from the shot in 1944, but I can't imagine the effects that virus could have had on my life AND family without it.

Sure there are a few exceptions, but minor compared to the positive effects of the shot, not only for the person but also those more vulnerable around them, AND in stopping the mutation of this PANDEMIC. Read the statistics, they leave no doubt that the shot means less infections AND less effects if you do get one of the variants.