OT- Bitcoin

Sinomatic

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My goodness, since 1980 look at how many technology sector companies could have made you very wealthy just by buying and watching.

Even buying Facebook at IPO then waiting for it to double then sell. Apple, IBM, AOL, Facebook, Cryptos, Nvidia, Microsoft, ect ect ect. Just making people stupid wealthy.

Technology sector is where it's at in my opinion.
 

GBRforLife1

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Gold .. heck even the US dollar sadly.

BTC price two years ago - 60k
BTC Nov ‘22 - 16k
Now - 41k

I think a 73% drop in value is an epic failure. But certainly is showing can rebound quickly. BTC can make you rich or broke
If you think a 73% drop is an epic failure what do you consider a 10,000% increase?
 

GBRforLife1

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Because you didn’t buy it prior to inflation going up. Your gauge is very faulty man. I get you’re a BTC homer as it made you rich… you gambled and got lucky, but BTC declined heavily during inflation
Spoiler alert: inflation has always went up.

That's kind of the point.

Cherry picking the last 2 years and then telling someone their gauge is very faulty seems very "ignorance is bliss-ish"
 

redwine65

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I been doing good with maple, render, chainlink, injective, nxra, and recently big time...

I bought the sbf dip bitcoin at 16k...with the spot btc etf's coming up (including blackrock) letting institutional money in, biden printers going full bore cause election coming up, and the bit coin halving....it could get interesting.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Spoiler alert: inflation has always went up.

That's kind of the point.

Cherry picking the last 2 years and then telling someone their gauge is very faulty seems very "ignorance is bliss-ish"
Correct.. normal inflation is 2% ish .. past couple years was much higher so a finite cryptocurrency should kill it in a high inflation environment, but it sucked balls.
 

redwine65

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Super epic awesomeness… it’s funny. You only hear about the winners in crypto .. not unlike Vegas
bitcoin follows the same 4 year cycle..bull/bear market...look at the charts. if you just hold btc and don't try to time the market it goes up 200% per year average. it pretty simple if you want to trade..just look at the 4 year chart on when to buy and sell
 

redwine65

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if I did'nt have btc, I think now..I might wait till January to see if the sec approves the spot etf's..
most think they will because black rock has had only one listing denied out of like 250 some...
some say blackrock will define the rules of crypto and not congress.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Super epic awesomeness… it’s funny. You only hear about the winners in crypto .. not unlike Vegas
Look, there are a ton of ways to make money. I made and continue to make a fortune playing horses, its not for everybody.

It's not about trying to be the richest guy in the cemetary, to me its about how do i create my legacy with my grandchildren and great-grandchildren and give them a leg up to help them in the very, very tenuous financial futures they face.

I'm relatively sharp with numbers and ALL financial matters, my son is equal or superior due to his technological advantage, our goal is to have our younger family members become even better than we are. It's not a contest, its a challenge.

I'm not a jealous type person, i truly hope everyone does well, including you Tampa. You and I have had discussions and I always find you to be a sharp guy who just uses different methods. When you do well, I applaud you dude.

In 2 weeks, I'm gonna be 70 years old, I've won and I don't make apologies in how I made that happen.
 

TampaBaySkers

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bitcoin follows the same 4 year cycle..bull/bear market...look at the charts. if you just hold btc and don't try to time the market it goes up 200% per year average. it pretty simple if you want to trade..just look at the 4 year chart on when to buy and sell
So what cycle are we in?

Insanely volatile over past three years.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Look, there are a ton of ways to make money. I made and continue to make a fortune playing horses, its not for everybody.

It's not about trying to be the richest guy in the cemetary, to me its about how do i create my legacy with my grandchildren and great-grandchildren and give them a leg up to help them in the very, very tenuous financial futures they face.

I'm relatively sharp with numbers and ALL financial matters, my son is equal or superior due to his technological advantage, our goal is to have our younger family members become even better than we are. It's not a contest, its a challenge.

I'm not a jealous type person, i truly hope everyone does well, including you Tampa. You and I have had discussions and I always find you to be a sharp guy who just uses different methods. When you do well, I applaud you dude.

In 2 weeks, I'm gonna be 70 years old, I've won and I don't make apologies in how I made that happen.
I hope I’m posting when I’m 70. You’re the man!
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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Because you didn’t buy it prior to inflation going up. Your gauge is very faulty man. I get you’re a BTC homer as it made you rich… you gambled and got lucky, but BTC declined heavily during inflation
Why do you care or try to denegrate my financial successes as if the only money I made was in Bitcoin?

I was already wealthy from playing horses well before 2010 when I bought BTC.

For a high school dropout, I've done okay.
 

TampaBaySkers

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Why do you care or try to denegrate my financial successes as if the only money I made was in Bitcoin?

I was already wealthy from playing horses well before 2010 when I bought BTC.

For a high school dropout, I've done okay.
You’ve done well gambling… odds were stacked against ya but you killed it. Not trying to hate..
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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I hope I’m posting when I’m 70. You’re the man!
I appreciate the compliment, and I'm being sincere when I say I really do like you. Big deal, we don't agree on things and that's what makes the world go around.

As a sidenote, my buddy countrybob who posted earlier is one of the sharpest cats I've ever talked to. He's super modest, comes off low key, but trust me, that man is a HUGELY successful and he's done things way different than either you or I. He's about 5 months older than me and is sharper than 95% of the people I've ever talked to.
 
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redwine65

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I bought on the sbf dip at 16k now I'm siting at 42k...but I think it pumped some because of the upcoming eft's....if the sec approved them I should do real good, if they don't I should just do good....as long as I sell in 2025 when the bear market starts
 

TampaBaySkers

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I bought on the sbf dip at 16k now I'm siting at 42k...but I think it pumped some because of the upcoming eft's....if the sec approved them I should do real good, if they don't I should just do good....as long as I sell in 2025 when the bear market starts
Appreciate the insight
 

redli33

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I don't know what to make of the guy that's constantly talking about buying bitcoin at 8 cents BUT he's leaving it for his kids. It's like he's flexing on his wealth BUT also his generosity.
 

redli33

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It's just weird to me, reminds me of about 20 years ago guys would always compare 401k's. I find it strange then, I find it strange now. The little bit that you've typed probably 2 dozen times now about how you didn't know anything in 2010 but your son did is such a massive #humblebrag it can't be lost on you.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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It's just weird to me, reminds me of about 20 years ago guys would always compare 401k's. I find it strange then, I find it strange now. The little bit that you've typed probably 2 dozen times now about how you didn't know anything in 2010 but your son did is such a massive #humblebrag it can't be lost on you.
I don't know what to make of a guy who worries about other people. Why would I even waste my time exchanging with you? If I have to explain anything to anyone, it sure the **** ain't to you.

Show me the 2 dozen times I've talked about the BTC I bought. I'm a guy who likes to encourage people who've done well, not get all fvcking petty about something thats really none of your business.

If you don't like what I post, don't read it. You do you, and I'll do me and I'll beat *** every time. Good night.
 

itseasyas1-2-3

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I don't know what to make of the guy that's constantly talking about buying bitcoin at 8 cents BUT he's leaving it for his kids. It's like he's flexing on his wealth BUT also his generosity.
Just so you know, my "kids" are in their mid-40's, and don't need any of my money, they are both highly successful in business.
So, I didn't say I was leaving it for my "kids."

There is an old saying in life that goes, "multiply yourself through others."

Try it sometime instead of being so focused on just YOURSELF.

If you think I'm a prick, too bad, I make no apologies to anyone.
 

dsmalls3

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Super epic awesomeness… it’s funny. You only hear about the winners in crypto .. not unlike Vegas

Like traditional finance, it’s really just understanding business cycles, inflation, secular trends, liquidity, debt cycles, macro catalyst, etc. Crypto has been a risk-on asset like tech. Except with crypto you have a hell of a lot more volatility (on the way up and down).

This will be BTCs 4th four year cycle. Study a log chart and it becomes pretty easy 3-5x from here. Would have been a 10x from $15k. You want bigger returns, all alts follow BTC, so chose ones with lower market caps. Buy now (preferably would have bought in 2022 lows), plan to sell it all Q1/Q2 2025. SOL is likely still a 10x+ from here.

It’s only gambling if you are highly risk-adverse, can’t stand volatility and trade emotionally, and don’t know what you are doing. If you understand it, it’s the easiest multiplier of wealth in the history of capital markets. But you need to understand the crypto market cycle, or you will get rekted. Most will buy when crypto is nearing its next all time high (this is when it feels safest bc everybody else seems to be doing it) and then won’t sell until they are 50-70% down, and will sell the bottom.
 
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itseasyas1-2-3

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It's just weird to me, reminds me of about 20 years ago guys would always compare 401k's. I find it strange then, I find it strange now. The little bit that you've typed probably 2 dozen times now about how you didn't know anything in 2010 but your son did is such a massive #humblebrag it can't be lost on you.
You have a bad case of penis envy.
 

dsmalls3

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this is assuming there is and will always be demand for 100 fictitious, non-existent digital-only "assets", which, in my opinion, is somewhat of a stretch

The argument for BTC as value today is similar to that of the dollar (world’s currency). If you want to describe both as an “agreed upon store of value used for exchange of assets like commodities, equities, real estate, they are the same idea. Only BTC will go up in value per unit over time, while the dollar will lose its value over time. To use BTC for purchasing power, sell to USD, use USD to purchase.

Much like real estate has outpaced inflation the past decades, BTC is doing the same only at a much faster appreciation rate. It’s a long duration asset, is highly volatile and so better to know how to best purchase it as a part of the cycle, but even still over it’s 12-13 year existence it has beat inflation more than real estate, commodities, equities, fixed-income assets, and gold/silver.

People saying crypto is not real like equities, and that companies are “real” and that’s why people buy their shares is short-sighted. Nobody buys Amazon stock because it’s great to own the stock, they do so to get a return on their money. If you want to use Amazon, you buy something from their website. Equites are a mechanism for capital formation and growth, and crypto is the same, just based on a different financial system. Like the internet, you will see more companies evolve over time as crypto-first, it will just take time. Crypto companies already create economic value in that they create jobs, and will only create more jobs over time. The reason it creates jobs is it pulls investment capital, used to pay people, which can then be used for innovation. I feel this economic function alone is way overlooked, and parallels with early internet days.

Many incorrectly thought BTC would protect against an equities market downturn, or would increase in value more when inflation became higher. Both are incorrect, and crypto has traded as a risk-on asset due to its risk profile of extremely high volatility. From an investment standpoint, it’s like tech stocks on steroids.

If you self custody it is 100% decoupled from the global financial system, minus the need for an on-ramp of funds. The crypto equivalent to the dollar are stablecoins. BTC, SOL, ETH, etc each are forms of digital properties and each bring legitimate forms of financial value, including a community ecosystem building defi apps, games, casinos, and more on their core network. BTC is slow AF, so it doesn’t serve this function as a fully automated settlement layers, which are permission-less, decentralized and immutable.
 
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Huskers123456

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It's just weird to me, reminds me of about 20 years ago guys would always compare 401k's. I find it strange then, I find it strange now. The little bit that you've typed probably 2 dozen times now about how you didn't know anything in 2010 but your son did is such a massive #humblebrag it can't be lost on you.
401k is killing it. I compare with another guy at work. He has 5 years on me and a higher salary, thus larger 401k, but I'm gonna catch him before I retire.
 

ChattyCathy

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I appreciate the compliment, and I'm being sincere when I say I really do like you. Big deal, we don't agree on things and that's what makes the world go around.

As a sidenote, my buddy countrybob who posted earlier is one of the sharpest cats I've ever talked to. He's super modest, comes off low key, but trust me, that man is a HUGELY successful and he's done things way different than either you or I. He's about 5 months older than me and is sharper than 95% of the people I've ever talked to.
Thank you for your kind words. I'm living proof, even an idiot gets lucky once in awhile.
 

BTF69

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When I first started to use Twitter, I basically used it as a text message...I would tweet my friends and be like "What are you guys doing after work today, want to meet up for a drink?"

That is what is happening in this thread! I love it
 

dsmalls3

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I love hearing stories of the people who bought bitcoin in the penny range and killed it. Rock on dudes.

It feels so great to be 20 1/2 half years old, a multi-billionaire, and be able to buy anything, travel anywhere, meet anybody even the president one time I swear, and have cars, women, the fast life, and provide for my other family and friends and give them diamonds and watches, and go to Colorado games say sup to Prime, have lots of houses. The fast life. Money.

Everybody told me I was crazy when I was 8 and put my paper route money into Bitcoin, and now it halve sometimes, and now I’m rich. Life is good. Teslas. Crypto punks and BAYC.
 

big red23

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It is going to dip one more time before the bull, my guess is around the beginning of Q2... if you do not buy then, sorry for your loss

NFA