OT: Bulls
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Not until a complete housecleaning. How many coaches do GarPax get to fire before they get fired?
Pax was complaining today that the team lacked the positive energy it had last year. It's like he wasn't responsible for giving $80 million to one me-first, no-defense player (Lavine) and $20 million to another (Parker). What a joke.
Don't the Bulls already have a pretty decent former coach named Collins already in their building?
What I'm reading is that Boylen ("e" or "a", whichever is current) has the job until Hoiberg's contract is almost paid. So, no new talent for a couple years.
Think about, GarPax can now point to Hoiberg as the culprit over the next two years. I'm no Hoiberg fan, but he was handed rosters that were crap filled outhouses in a hurricane. Just nothing to work with and the opposite of talent for his system.
I find the rhetoric from Paxson that the players weren't sufficiently upset after losses offensive. Really offensive. You want to move on the guy, move on the guy. You built this crap house that can't beat a drum. Don't push it onto someone else.
The early fire may (I hope) be strategic to further blow up the year right when Lauri and others may be coming back. The best the Bulls can get out of this year is to be bottom three....and LaVine becoming a tradeable asset. The biggest threat to the Bulls' future is that they suddenly become competent. Jabari Parker is an insurance policy against that.
Think about, GarPax can now point to Hoiberg as the culprit over the next two years. I'm no Hoiberg fan, but he was handed rosters that were crap filled outhouses in a hurricane. Just nothing to work with and the opposite of talent for his system.
I find the rhetoric from Paxson that the players weren't sufficiently upset after losses offensive. Really offensive. You want to move on the guy, move on the guy. You built this crap house that can't beat a drum. Don't push it onto someone else.
The early fire may (I hope) be strategic to further blow up the year right when Lauri and others may be coming back. The best the Bulls can get out of this year is to be bottom three....and LaVine becoming a tradeable asset. The biggest threat to the Bulls' future is that they suddenly become competent. Jabari Parker is an insurance policy against that.
Through multiple ownerships the Bulls franchise has been a joke for its 50+ years of existence. With possible exception of years 74-75 there really hasn't been a Bulls team that didn't have Michael Jordan that has been of any significant relevance in the NBA. This despite the fact they've had capacity houses for 30+ years.
We had highly coveted seats in the 100 level...15th row, free throw line.
The firing of Thibodeau really shook us....watched Hoiberg for a year and then left them behind.
It's not an ownership/management group willing to do what it takes to win. If they stumble into a team approaching upper level, they'll make some moves. But they are mostly happy and content being sub .500 the majority of the time.\
The talk of building a winner....as in NBA championship....is nonsense. They'd have to fall into it as they did buying a team that had the GOAT already on it.
The firing of Thibodeau really shook us....watched Hoiberg for a year and then left them behind.
It's not an ownership/management group willing to do what it takes to win. If they stumble into a team approaching upper level, they'll make some moves. But they are mostly happy and content being sub .500 the majority of the time.\
The talk of building a winner....as in NBA championship....is nonsense. They'd have to fall into it as they did buying a team that had the GOAT already on it.
The bulls made two significant trades this morning. I’d be curious to hear the board basketball mavens discuss. Thank you.
Vucevic is a stud, and Carter is the low-ceiling player we thought he was. Vucevic has also never won a playoff series.
I like the deal, because I’ve never seen a tanking strategy actually work in the nba (the 76ers are the closest), but I don’t think LaVine and Vucevic and Lauri make a championship team. They’d need a player or LaVine/Vucevic to get there.
Theis is a better backup than Kornet, one of about a dozen people in history to have LOST TO NORTHWESTERN in an NCAA tournament.
The Bulls have still never proven an ability to get free agents. Miami and LA are way more fun places to build a super team in a league that plays primarily in the winter.
Very good moves. Karnisovas isn't messing around. Other than Lavigne, Lauri and Williams no one on this roster is a must keep. Management has seen what they needed to see from the current roster and are now shaking things up. Vucevic and Brown are core pieces. Theis and Aminu are complimentary rotation players. The Bulls are a playoff team with this roster.
He gone at the end of the season. They tried to get Lonzo Ball for him from NO. They wanted a first round pick too and the Bulls just gave up two.
We have been irrelevant for so long that just making the playoffs would be a huge step. And unlike Orlando, which has gone quietly in the first round the last few years, Chicago is enough of a destination that we could draw free agents with a winning culture. Probably the impetus for making these moves is Lavine's emergence as someone who might be the No. 1 scorer on a contending team. Vucevic makes him even more lethal. You have Lavine on a team-friendly deal for another year, now Vucevic on a declining salary, some solid veterans in Young, Sato, and Theis, and a number of young guys who will benefit from leadership and hopefully winning.
It's a big risk to give up two potential lottery picks and we still aren't better than Milwaukee, Miami, Brooklyn, or Philadelphia (and a few others in the East). But it would be nice to see us make the playoffs again. And it's not like four years of lottery picks have brought home an All-Star.
It's a big risk to give up two potential lottery picks and we still aren't better than Milwaukee, Miami, Brooklyn, or Philadelphia (and a few others in the East). But it would be nice to see us make the playoffs again. And it's not like four years of lottery picks have brought home an All-Star.
The Gar/Pax draft history really declined since the home run with Butler and Taj. I group of Wendel, Denzel, Chandler, Lauri and White has been poor for where they were drafted. Williams will probably end up the best of them and he was Artrus pick. We might get a couple sixth men out of that Gar/Pax draft roster.
They always undervalued Butler, going back to refusing to meet his extension demands when he was on his rookie deal. Letting him go was a catastrophe. I believe in Williams' potential too. If everything works out for him, he might turn out as good as Jimmy.
Those picks are top 4 protected. That certainly limits the risk of missing out on an elite talent without those picks.