OT: Burger King

Scarlet1984

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When the government along with folks on the Left mandate a $15+ hourly rate for fast food workers you have to pay for it. This didn't happen in a vacuum. Semi-literate FF workers think that making fries should be a career and the political opportunist on the Left happily supported them for their votes. Enjoy your inflation.
Very enlightened and relevant, as always.
 

T2Kplus20

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I rarely find myself at the burger chains anymore. My kids always defer to chick filet. I don't think the value is what it used to be at any of the fast food chains cause I am always so surprised at my bill. But the service at chick filet is so vastly better than other places it is hard not to notice.
Chik-Filet (spelling?) is shockingly good. Never understood the hype until I tried it a few months ago. Wow.
 

brgRC90

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If McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's all disappeared it wouldn't bother me at all. Foods horrible and horrible for you. And no longer a bargain/value, prices are insane for that crap.
Expensive AND not good. What's not to love? And, in fact, you can get other food today quickly that's much better quality, healthier and the same price. The big fast food chains are past their prime and just hanging on through habit and sheer numbers.
 
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GoodOl'Rutgers

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Or playing sports
..that is what I was indicating... high activity levels.. burning those calories everyday, easily... better calories were preferable, of course.. but you need not get fat.. now.. desk jobs and still doing that... you stopped growing... danger zone

but even kids not on HS sports teams year-round were playing street/sandlot/grassy park sports in the pre-video games era.. even if they had an Atari 2600 or intellivision.. actual sports were more entertaining.
 
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MADHAT1

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3 whoppers
3 reg cheese burgers
3 medium fries
$18+change

Employees making a decent wage, not a lot but not starvation wages (in which some people want them earning ) that what I paid would put a crimp in their budget


Some look down on people and want to keep them down

Some feel everyone deserves a living wage and are glad to see them

earning a wage that keeps them off government assistance


Not a peep is heard about top executives earning wages like this

$834,959,367

$540,513,050

$296,247,749

but let a fast food worker earn a wage that allows him/her to have a decent place to live, put food on the table and clothes on their back
then they are the ones causing the economy to fail
 

T2Kplus20

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If you couldn't eat 2 qtr pounders, in HS, without getting fat.. you weren't doing it right. Or maybe you were one of those smallish pencil-neck things... not that there was anything wrong with that.
Sorry, I didn't eat a 3,000 calorie dinner in HS (or ever in life). I'm comfortable with my slender 6'8" 225lb figure. Been this way for most of my life since 16'ish. I am eating less than before and my diet continues to evolve, but I never was really a junk eater, even during my sporting days.
 

MADHAT1

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I ate plenty of junk food , on my own, as a teenager.
Pizza and Chinese was the only takeout my parents brought home.
I did bring fast food takeout home for kids along with Pizza and Chinese, but the fast food was a rare exception and not as an excuse to forgo home cooking.
That was the Pizza and Chinese place at the family table at mealtime

Never gained weight because of junk food back in the day because of always being active.
As I grew older junk food became far less of my diet and didn't indulge to the point that it added unwelcome weight.
Now being up there in age and even with exercising a bit, junk food isn't
part of eating out or take home often, only an infrequent indulgence.
Can't see the big deal against it, like everything in life as you get older some things need to be cut down, but still enjoyed occasional.
Life has many choices and one must do what's best for them, but still find ways to enjoy life.

disclaimer: late night White Castle runs were part of my 20s, but those little grease burgers never put on weight, but didn't make for a good morning feeling when I woke up after a run the previous night
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fsg2_rivals

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3 whoppers
3 reg cheese burgers
3 medium fries
$18+change

Employees making a decent wage, not a lot but not starvation wages (in which some people want them earning ) that what I paid would put a crimp in their budget


Some look down on people and want to keep them down

Some feel everyone deserves a living wage and are glad to see them

earning a wage that keeps them off government assistance


Not a peep is heard about top executives earning wages like this

$834,959,367

$540,513,050

$296,247,749

but let a fast food worker earn a wage that allows him/her to have a decent place to live, put food on the table and clothes on their back
then they are the ones causing the economy to fail
👏👏
 

fsg2_rivals

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Sorry, I didn't eat a 3,000 calorie dinner in HS (or ever in life). I'm comfortable with my slender 6'8" 225lb figure. Been this way for most of my life since 16'ish. I am eating less than before and my diet continues to evolve, but I never was really a junk eater, even during my sporting days.
"Slender 6'8" is just a sugary way of saying "gangly, freakish oaf banished to the forest by fearful villagers."

😉
 

RU848789

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So, you were the tubby kid in HS? LOL.
Absolutely not - was able to also eat a whole pizza as a teenager. My metabolism back then must've been off the charts, as I ate ridiculously, but never got fat; playing every sport imaginable likely also helped.
 

T2Kplus20

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"Slender 6'8" is just a sugary way of saying "gangly, freakish oaf banished to the forest by fearful villagers."

😉
I grew into my freakishness! Actually, I never had a crazy growth spurt that makes you awkward and clumsy. I was always 6-12 inches taller than most dating back to early elementary school.
 
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WhiteBus

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3 whoppers
3 reg cheese burgers
3 medium fries
$18+change

Employees making a decent wage, not a lot but not starvation wages (in which some people want them earning ) that what I paid would put a crimp in their budget


Some look down on people and want to keep them down

Some feel everyone deserves a living wage and are glad to see them

earning a wage that keeps them off government assistance


Not a peep is heard about top executives earning wages like this

$834,959,367

$540,513,050

$296,247,749

but let a fast food worker earn a wage that allows him/her to have a decent place to live, put food on the table and clothes on their back
then they are the ones causing the economy to fail
In NJ the minimum wage is $14.13. For part time work by kids it's ok. Full time, looking to live in NJ is impossible by yourself.
The fast food industry built itself on part time employees. Why? No benefits! The franchise FF business is a dying model.
 

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I ate plenty of junk food , on my own, as a teenager.
Pizza and Chinese was the only takeout my parents brought home.
I did bring fast food takeout home for kids along with Pizza and Chinese, but the fast food was a rare exception and not as an excuse to forgo home cooking.
That was the Pizza and Chinese place at the family table at mealtime

Never gained weight because of junk food back in the day because of always being active.
As I grew older junk food became far less of my diet and didn't indulge to the point that it added unwelcome weight.
Now being up there in age and even with exercising a bit, junk food isn't
part of eating out or take home often, only an infrequent indulgence.
Can't see the big deal against it, like everything in life as you get older some things need to be cut down, but still enjoyed occasional.
Life has many choices and one must do what's best for them, but still find ways to enjoy life.

disclaimer: late night White Castle runs were part of my 20s, but those little grease burgers ne't make for a good morning feeling when I woke up after a run the previous night
.

3 whoppers
3 reg cheese burgers
3 medium fries
$18+change

Employees making a decent wage, not a lot but not starvation wages (in which some people want them earning ) that what I paid would put a crimp in their budget


Some look down on people and want to keep them down

Some feel everyone deserves a living wage and are glad to see them

earning a wage that keeps them off government assistance


Not a peep is heard about top executives earning wages like this

$834,959,367

$540,513,050

$296,247,749

but let a fast food worker earn a wage that allows him/her to have a decent place to live, put food on the table and clothes on their back
then they are the ones causing the economy to fail
God forbid that food workers earn a living wage. How dare they! Right wing lunatics rant against the minimum wage so they can enjoy really cheap hamburgers. Everything else be damned.
 
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MADHAT1

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The point he was making was that BK was shutting down due to higher mandated wages.
Mc Donalds seems to be doing fine paying the help along with the brass
For its 2020 fiscal year, MCDONALDS CORP, listed the following executives on its annual proxy statement to the SEC

Kevin Ozan Corporate Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer $4,531,221 View details #21 View more

Christopher Kempczinski President and Chief Executive Officer $10,847,032 View details #28 View more

Joseph Erlinger President, McDonald's USA $4,663,516 View details #14 View more

Jerome Krulewitch Former Corporate Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary $2,715,431 View details #4 View more

Ian Borden President, International $4,784,263 Viedetails

Heidi B. Capozzi Corporate Executive Vice President - Global Chief People Officer $8,939,920 View details #3 View more
and actually those salaries are far more reasonable than a lot of other major corporations pay their top brass
 

AZBlues

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God forbid that food workers earn a living wage. How dare they! Right wing lunatics rant against the minimum wage so they can enjoy really cheap hamburgers. Everything else be damned.

I guess its a good thing, but I still have ambivalent feelings about raising the minimum wage so much so quickly...

From what I see in some of the people around me, the $15 minimum wage has also had a big or bigger negative impact on low income and fixed income individuals who didn't happen to benefit from the wage increase, but who now have to spend more of their limited income or savings on products and food that is significantly more expensive, in large part because of the the minimum wage increase. Some of the small businesses I patronize have cut back on staff too. I wouldn't be surprised if many more low income individuals have been hurt by the $15 minimum wage than have benefited from it.
 

MADHAT1

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I guess its a good thing, but I still have ambivalent feelings about raising the minimum wage so much so quickly...

From what I see in some of the people around me, the $15 minimum wage has also had a big or bigger negative impact on low income and fixed income individuals who didn't happen to benefit from the wage increase, but who now have to spend more of their limited income or savings on products and food that is significantly more expensive, in large part because of the the minimum wage increase. Some of the small businesses I patronize have cut back on staff too. I wouldn't be surprised if many more low income individuals have been hurt by the $15 minimum wage than have benefited from it.
Actually the federal minimum wage has stayed the same since it was $7.25 an hour in 2009 .
But individual states have raised their minimum wage trying to help reduce those working 40 hours a week and still needing government assistants to survive without becoming homeless but fully employed.

Low wage earners are hurt by many things, but raising the minimum wage is not really one of them like many think it is, but makes a good excuse for keeping low income workers from making a living wage.
 

Section124

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Mc Donalds seems to be doing fine paying the help along with the brass
For its 2020 fiscal year, MCDONALDS CORP, listed the following executives on its annual proxy statement to the SEC

Kevin Ozan Corporate Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer $4,531,221 View details #21 View more

Christopher Kempczinski President and Chief Executive Officer $10,847,032 View details #28 View more

Joseph Erlinger President, McDonald's USA $4,663,516 View details #14 View more

Jerome Krulewitch Former Corporate Executive Vice President, General Counsel and Secretary $2,715,431 View details #4 View more

Ian Borden President, International $4,784,263 Viedetails

Heidi B. Capozzi Corporate Executive Vice President - Global Chief People Officer $8,939,920 View details #3 View more
and actually those salaries are far more reasonable than a lot of other major corporations pay their top brass
Is that just their base salary? Usually their equity is included in financials. Not many McDonald employees get equity.
 

mildone_rivals

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I'm perfectly okay with CEO's getting huge salaries. But I'm also perfectly okay with raising minimum wages to a more reasonable level.

Although this latter thing is going to be, in many cases, a moot point in the not-too-distant future. Especially for fast food workers. They'll all be replaced by fully automated facilities. Humans are just not needed to prepare and serve fast food at this point. Machines will do it better and far less expensively.
 

mdk02

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I'm perfectly okay with CEO's getting huge salaries. But I'm also perfectly okay with raising minimum wages to a more reasonable level.

Although this latter thing is going to be, in many cases, a moot point in the not-too-distant future. Especially for fast food workers. They'll all be replaced by fully automated facilities. Humans are just not needed to prepare and serve fast food at this point. Machines will do it better and far less expensively.

Problem is "reasonable level" is not equal across the country. Just for kicks I checked out apartment rentals in Ottumwa, Iowa. 1 bedrooms 500-600 a month. You pay that much in NJ for a parking space. 2 bedrooms 750-1000. Probably should raise the federal to cover recent inflation, but it doesn't need to match NY/NJ.
 

mildone_rivals

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Problem is "reasonable level" is not equal across the country. Just for kicks I checked out apartment rentals in Ottumwa, Iowa. 1 bedrooms 500-600 a month. You pay that much in NJ for a parking space. 2 bedrooms 750-1000. Probably should raise the federal to cover recent inflation, but it doesn't need to match NY/NJ.
I agree that minimum wages should probably be a state law, not a federal one. As a general rule, I think it's wise to allow states to dictate as much law as is reasonable and possible.

But I'm not ideological about it. There are some reasonable exceptions where federal law makes more sense.

But I've never heard any great arguments for why minimum wage should not be a state law. At the very least, if there's a federal wage law, it should allow for state and possibly even county-level adjustments to accommodate varying cost of living.
 

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Low wage earners are hurt by many things, but raising the minimum wage is not really one of them like many think it is, but makes a good excuse for keeping low income workers from making a living wage.
I'm aware of all the good that increasing the minimum wage can do...

But also, from what I've heard from talking to many people who've been affected by the increase in prices that followed large minimum wage increases in my state, your statement above isn't always true. Here, the state sets a minimum wage, but local jurisdictions can set their own higher minimum wage if they choose to. And a significant jump in prices after a big minimum wage increase has been very real, at least here.
 

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My God Longhorn and Outback both must bid on the cows that pulled the cart. As for McDonald’s and Burger King, I like the idea once in a blue moon and then quickly remember the results of why once in a blue moon.
A little more than a blue moon for me. Maybe every 2-3 weeks when I don't feel like cooking. My go-to is two Big Macs with a glass of milk. If not McD's, a double Whopper with cheese. There's also a place down here called Krystal which is a lot like White Castle. I get a 12-pack of those once in a while for me and my lady.
 

Knightmoves

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A little more than a blue moon for me. Maybe every 2-3 weeks when I don't feel like cooking. My go-to is two Big Macs with a glass of milk. If not McD's, a double Whopper with cheese. There's also a place down here called Krystal which is a lot like White Castle. I get a 12-pack of those once in a while for me and my lady.
Krystal = Low grade dogfood
 

RU05

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Big fan of Whopper Wednesdays.

But their shake machines are always broken.