OT :Distance Learning??

mwulf

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning? My district (LAUSD) will probably be doing this until the Spring. I hate it. Zero connection with kids, zoom bombings, poor tech, poor attendance etc. Nothing about is good for the child. Even when we do come back this year (if) it will be a staggered 3 on 2 off type model. The sooner we get back to normal the better. Curious if anyone has any reports from their experiences
 

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My kids start school next week in Maryland. Looks to be much better than what was thrown out at the end of spring. We're not particularly concerned about the socialization aspects.

Even if kids were in school the restrictions are such that won't won't be doing much of anything anyway especially socially. Personally my kids have more freedom running around the house and yard than they would sitting for eight hours a day behind a plexiglass desk.
 

mwulf

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Can definitely confirm that spring distance learning was a sham. This fall is much more organized. I've been lucky during this to not miss a paycheck.
 

steinek11

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We've been homeschooling our kids from day one. I feel bad for the people out there with these crappy Zoom classrooms and distance learning. What a cluster
 

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For the grandkids it’s been a joke with the computer issues for connection and upgrades for the laptops.

the teachers try I think but communication with the district has been terrible. Youngest kids are bored and have struggled so far this fall.
 

mwulf

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High school has had kids showing porn, typing all kinds of foul things in the chat, cussing etc....gotta lock down those meeting settings
 
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My son was fortunate enough to go back to real school full time this week after alternating time beteeen zoom and in the classroom. I am so glad...online was just awful and the people who got us there suck and our kids are paying the price.
 

JohnRossEwing

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We've been homeschooling our kids from day one. I feel bad for the people out there with these crappy Zoom classrooms and distance learning. What a cluster

Sounds like your kids will get to be Prom King/Queen AND valedictorians!
 

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning? My district (LAUSD) will probably be doing this until the Spring. I hate it. Zero connection with kids, zoom bombings, poor tech, poor attendance etc. Nothing about is good for the child. Even when we do come back this year (if) it will be a staggered 3 on 2 off type model. The sooner we get back to normal the better. Curious if anyone has any reports from their experiences
I have two in distance learning. Fairly organized but kids are just not as engaged and it’s seems hard for teachers given the situation. Today the Asst principle called me wondering if my kid knew who yelled “penis” during class yesterday. Sigh.
 
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I have two in distance learning. Fairly organized but kids are just not as engaged and it’s seems hard for teachers given the situation. Today the Asst principle called me wondering if my kid knew who yelled “penis” during class yesterday. Sigh.
We were naming all the planuts in the galaxy.
 

jflores

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So pretty much like regular in school.

Yah at least in regards to the misbehavior, its just parents being more aware of it than just coming home at the end of the day and pretending that their kid in school was a 100% wholesome experience.

We all know what goes on in school, we just don't have to deal with it. Covid has changed that.
 

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I live in Lincoln, and I have 3 in school. The 2 younger ones, one in middle school and one in elementary school, are going to school full time. All high schools are on a 3 and 2 alternating weeks; my oldest is a freshman, not a great way to have to start high school, but I don't know of too much trouble he's had. Outside of the first day for remote learning, where there were some growing pains with everyone getting on, it's been fine as far as I know. Still not exactly ideal, my oldest is easily distracted, but my wife is working from home and can make sure he's staying on task, for the most part.
 

jflores

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I live in Lincoln, and I have 3 in school. The 2 younger ones, one in middle school and one in elementary school, are going to school full time. All high schools are on a 3 and 2 alternating weeks; my oldest is a freshman, not a great way to have to start high school, but I don't know of too much trouble he's had. Outside of the first day for remote learning, where there were some growing pains with everyone getting on, it's been fine as far as I know. Still not exactly ideal, my oldest is easily distracted, but my wife is working from home and can make sure he's staying on task, for the most part.

My kids are younger (1st and 3rd grade) so they are better able to absorb the irregularity. I feel a million percent sorry for parents who have middle and high school age kids who are old enough to be really impacted by this. I can't imagine being a high schooler myself, during all this weirdness and hanging around home.
 

mwulf

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Having the ability to mute a kid or remove them from the meeting with a click is a super power that will be difficult to give up
 
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It's been less than 1 year guys. Most people live to age 80. So all this is < .0125 of their life. It'll all be okay in 2021.

This is the second school year that is getting crapped on. If what you say is accurate, and it's better on 2021, then my son will have had a normal freshman amd senior year only for his high school experience. Yippee.
 

mwulf

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I have had 35 emails from kids since the last class ended today. I am more than ready to be back in class.
 

TruHusker

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mwulf, you are correct in wanting to get back with your students. You took the classes, we know what works for students and in education, we have always known it. Good for you wanting to get back to face to face with students.

I managed an at-risk program several years ago and did some informal research on students I was getting in high school. I went back and looked at test scores and found a common thread, wherever they go behind, usually around 3rd grade, that percent never was made up. So a kid who is 25% the norm in 3rd grade is one thing, that is three years of learning. A kid who is 25% behind as a Junior has a lot more years under their belt. My point is, what has been missed last spring and this year with the different formats will be extremely difficult to ever make up. I don't want to say impossible, but very difficult. I would think mwulf would agree, maybe not.

My kids were good students, one would have survived this, the other I doubt would have. If I were a parent in this and education was a priority and if there was anyway to pull it off, I would home school. I am just glad I am no longer a teacher and for sure not an administrator. This is a no win situation.

Oh, and FB is on fire with parents complaining about the current situation here and it just got started.
 

mwulf

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There is zero connection or bonding at all. Kids can't be forced to show themselves on camera. Who knows what's going on at home? It's a really crappy situation all around. I won't see my 246 group again until next Wednesday with the long weekend
 

steinek11

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Sounds like your kids will get to be Prom King/Queen AND valedictorians!

There actually are dances throughout the year.The last one was several hundred kids and was over capacity. They had to turn kids away.

My daughter is on track for a regent scholarship, so it's working out ok. We'll get her through university debt free on merit.
 

JohnRossEwing

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There actually are dances throughout the year.The last one was several hundred kids and was over capacity. They had to turn kids away.

My daughter is on track for a regent scholarship, so it's working out ok. We'll get her through university debt free on merit.

****, they had to turn away home school kids???
 

TruHusker

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There actually are dances throughout the year.The last one was several hundred kids and was over capacity. They had to turn kids away.

My daughter is on track for a regent scholarship, so it's working out ok. We'll get her through university debt free on merit.

Congratulations to the parents and students!
 

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning? My district (LAUSD) will probably be doing this until the Spring. I hate it. Zero connection with kids, zoom bombings, poor tech, poor attendance etc. Nothing about is good for the child. Even when we do come back this year (if) it will be a staggered 3 on 2 off type model. The sooner we get back to normal the better. Curious if anyone has any reports from their experiences
Our district is back full in person classes but we have the option to go from home and About 10% of the parents have opted to do virtual. The kids have adapted to masks pretty well, the adults have not. We opted to do in person but are considering virtual as our kids complain that most of the other kids are there to screw around. As a result, in person learning slows the experience down to the slowest learner or biggest distraction in class. Virtual allows kids to go at their own pace which is nice... I think it is completely dependent on the kid. No right or wrong answer.
 

Iroh2

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I feel bad for the parents that have no option to go virtual as they both work..
 

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Fortunately, we are in a school district that isn't all caught up in the hysteria of it all. Full time, in person. Sure, masks and social distancing (although social distancing is kind of relative in a class room). Can't really run and play with friends at school, but if you think these kids aren't getting together to play once they are off the school-grounds, you are pretty naïve. Zero problems just shy of one-month in. And, yes, we are in a district that has COVID in the community. A kid has a sore throat or fever? send him home until they get a negative test. Same for a teacher. But don't shut the whole thing down over a handful of cases. Funny/sad that every suburban district in Omaha area can make it work, but OPS somehow can't.
 

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My daughter is three weeks into their school year at school. Last spring was such a joke. She was in first grade last year and they got packets sent home once a week. The kids met with the teacher one night a week for an hour on zoom. In that hour they didn't talk about a single thing in the packet.
 
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If a school district did not come up with an appropriate plan for this fall then the parents in that district need to voice their concern.

I don't believe you can look at last spring with any sort of criticism. In my district, they announced that school was "postponed" for an additional week after spring break. Really no need to adjust anything. A week later, they delayed it 30 days, basically until mid-April, at that point you had to begin to come up with alternative ways. There wasn't a whole lot of time to come up with the necessary technological alternatives to get that info out there.

But as I wrote above, from late April to August, there has been plenty of time to come up with ways to get the teachers in front of the kids, virtually, in person, or a combination of both.

In my experience over the last 6 months, as we've dealt with Covid related issues in the school setting, most of the parents who pay attention to the communications from the school district have fewer issues with the plan. Sadly there are far too many that do not keep up with the communications, then want special treatment because "they didn't know" what they were supposed to do. Glad I am just a teacher and not an administrator.
 

JohnRossEwing

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I do like that a lot of parents are finding out just how annoying their little perfect kid can be. If they are a pain in the *** at home during the virtual school day, guess what, they are a pain in the *** the school.

And the parents that are "over it, and done with helping their kid with school" guess what, that teacher is "over it" too, only they have 100-150 kids to deal with each day and most of the things they deal with are not about solving for X.
 

JohnRossEwing

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If a school district did not come up with an appropriate plan for this fall then the parents in that district need to voice their concern.

I don't believe you can look at last spring with any sort of criticism. In my district, they announced that school was "postponed" for an additional week after spring break. Really no need to adjust anything. A week later, they delayed it 30 days, basically until mid-April, at that point you had to begin to come up with alternative ways. There wasn't a whole lot of time to come up with the necessary technological alternatives to get that info out there.

But as I wrote above, from late April to August, there has been plenty of time to come up with ways to get the teachers in front of the kids, virtually, in person, or a combination of both.

In my experience over the last 6 months, as we've dealt with Covid related issues in the school setting, most of the parents who pay attention to the communications from the school district have fewer issues with the plan. Sadly there are far too many that do not keep up with the communications, then want special treatment because "they didn't know" what they were supposed to do. Glad I am just a teacher and not an administrator.

Yep, totally agree.
 

donahues17

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning? My district (LAUSD) will probably be doing this until the Spring. I hate it. Zero connection with kids, zoom bombings, poor tech, poor attendance etc. Nothing about is good for the child. Even when we do come back this year (if) it will be a staggered 3 on 2 off type model. The sooner we get back to normal the better. Curious if anyone has any reports from their experiences

I hate it. My son is a 2nd grader. He does the 3/2 one week and 2/3 the next. His teacher tries so hard and you can hear the frustration in her voice when doing the online class. My son will sit and fidget with aything he can. We try keeping him engaged but it just isnt working. He is enjoying the in class days though. It is hard keeping a 7 year old focusing on a computer screen listening to a teacher for 5 hours of his day while at home. The other day she was teaching some things and she lost connection and didnt realize it. So there were 6 7 year olds talking to each other while they wondered where the teacher went. It was frustrating but comical. One little girl was shiwing them how she locks her cat in the cat in the closet.
When the teacher reconnected she asked the kids what they thought. One kid said "uhhh what happened to you"? She asked several times if they heard what she said. She finally said "ill teach you guys that tomorrow when you are in class". I felt bad for her. I cant wait for full days to start again but dont see that happening until December at the minimum.
 
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I hate it. My son is a 2nd grader. He does the 3/2 one week and 2/3 the next. His teacher tries so hard and you can hear the frustration in her voice when doing the online class. My son will sit and fidget with aything he can. We try keeping him engaged but it just isnt working. He is enjoying the in class days though. It is hard keeping a 7 year old focusing on a computer screen listening to a teacher for 5 hours of his day while at home. The other day she was teaching some things and she lost connection and didnt realize it. So there were 6 7 year olds talking to each other while they wondered where the teacher went. It was frustrating but comical. One little girl was shiwing them how she locks her cat in the cat in the closet.
When the teacher reconnected she asked the kids what they thought. One kid said "uhhh what happened to you"? She asked several times if they heard what she said. She finally said "ill teach you guys that tomorrow when you are in class". I felt bad for her. I cant wait for full days to start again but dont see that happening until December at the minimum.

our system knocks the kids offline if the teacher loses connectivity.
 

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning?

Have two in it now. The spring semester was a total disaster, with basically just a PDF of links to game-like "learning" apps that accomplished nothing. Austin ISD seems to have have gotten their **** together a little more this summer. They prepared and distributed nearly 80,000 iPad or Chromebook devices to students, with everything locked down and pre-configured. The teachers have obviously received a lot more training on how to work with the technology. They also prepared three full bags of workbooks, supplies, and lab materials per child to use. Unlike the spring, they have a set schedule with actual lectures, as well as office hours to request meetings with the teacher.

My expectations are pretty low, but so far they seem to be doing a better job than in the spring. A month ago my wife was ready to pull the kids out of school to be home-schooled. That may yet happen if they get nothing done all day like the spring. We've had our kids in Kumon the whole time, doing pages and pages of math problems. Most of elementary school is just fluff anyway, so I don't care about that, but we are not going to let them fall behind in math and science.
 

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It's been less than 1 year guys. Most people live to age 80. So all this is < .0125 of their life. It'll all be okay in 2021.
Have to disagree with this one. My 2nd grade daughter is a smart kid but needs the social development as do any kids that age.
 

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning? My district (LAUSD) will probably be doing this until the Spring. I hate it. Zero connection with kids, zoom bombings, poor tech, poor attendance etc. Nothing about is good for the child. Even when we do come back this year (if) it will be a staggered 3 on 2 off type model. The sooner we get back to normal the better. Curious if anyone has any reports from their experiences
My wife is doing this (in Indonesia), though the teachers are teaching from the school, and not from their homes. The kids remain at home. The main issue they are having outside of IT issues, is chasing down the kids when they don't show up for their lessons. Some parents haven't been helpful in this regard either, as they are too busy doing their own thing and not watching the kid anyways.

So far, this is working just so-so for her students (grade 3) but I also think they are on a reduced teaching plan.. they are trying to accomplish about 60% of what is normally taught due to the reduced time spent in zoom classes.
 

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Anyone have children currently going through distance learning? My district (LAUSD) will probably be doing this until the Spring. I hate it. Zero connection with kids, zoom bombings, poor tech, poor attendance etc. Nothing about is good for the child. Even when we do come back this year (if) it will be a staggered 3 on 2 off type model. The sooner we get back to normal the better. Curious if anyone has any reports from their experiences
anyone? isnt it common knowledge a LOT of the country is doing distance learning? it really wasn't a question but an opportunity to complain again. it does suck but we'll get through it