Nope, you aren't a villain, you just have a different perspective. I may be one of your asinine people. I connect with people with great difficulty. Dogs are another story. While I'm happy to donate to help people I'm more likely to spend my time helping animals. I'm also a terribly conservative, evangelical Christian. I simply see the world a little differently than you do. There's nothing wrong with different perspectives and it doesn't make either of us bad or crazy.
OT - Dogs and Epilepsy
- Thread starter Cowtown Cat
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Will Rogers said it best when it comes to loving dogs:
“If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went.”
Oh, you meant Gophers. Lol, I get it! Good one!I was off on a tangent (again...)
I swear I love dogs so before I’m called a Devil, here’s a picture of my new Golden Pyrenees. I’ve got another English Cream Golden Retriever but he’s in my bed. Lazy AF. No Michael Vick torture chambers.
she’s already a swimmer!!
Thank goodness. I was afraid your were going to drown her.
Thanks Friend! All good, we are actually pet sitting a German Shepherd for the next 6-7 days, so their spirit will live on vicariously through him. [cheers]
Works for me. Couldn’t imagine wanting to help a dog over a child who’s not eating, but ok.
I spend about 3 hours a week at our Salvation Army. I guess when you see pregnant women who can’t eat it just makes me think the dogs are less important.
I have seizures, but they are non-epileptic. (Sp?) I Iake 1000 mg of Keppra and 1800 mg of neurotin a day. The neurotin piggybacks the seizure meds. Unfortunately neurotin is considered a narcotic in KY a cannot be prescribed by a vet.
Good luck. I miss my dog, Bandit, every day. He had to be put down after biting my hand. I didn't know my ex locked him in a closet for a week when I went to give him love. I wish I could choose between the ex and the dog. I would have kept the dog.
Good luck. I miss my dog, Bandit, every day. He had to be put down after biting my hand. I didn't know my ex locked him in a closet for a week when I went to give him love. I wish I could choose between the ex and the dog. I would have kept the dog.
I don’t like saying this, but prepare to lose him. My Golden Retriever Nugget started having seizures at almost 14. I don’t remember the meds they put him on, it was 1995. I had to force feed him, and the drugs left him a zombie. I had him put down just short of 15.
He may have had tumors at that age. Tge overwhelming majority of dogs have idiopathic seizures with far better outcomes.
It was thought by a CSU vet he did have a brain tumor. The dog was nearly 15, and it was a quarter century ago. I got dumped by a girl in my late 20’s, and seeing him go hurt 10 times worse! 12 friends helped me bury him in the Arapahoe National forest outside Ward, CO, and we had a wake. For my dog. Told stories like him peeing on Christmas presents under the tree at a friends house. I’ll be lucky if that many show up for my mine.
While I feel bad for any starving human, I’m more likely to help a dog first. In general dogs are better than humans. Plus they’re not wild animals that can go live on their own and thrive like they could before being domesticated. Humans can fend for themselves and there’s plenty of places that help them.
Btw you might as well get used to that digging until she’s a little older. My labs thought they were miners until they were over a year or so old.
I cringe when the save the snow lion commercials come on. Same with the dogs. It’s too sad.
Same! I usually mute it or change the channel. I like what they do but I can’t stand to see that
My boxer gets them every once in awhile. The last one I thought he died in my arms I was devestated. Then he came to and been kicking it ever since.
I do appreciate of few of you being honest and proving my point.
My retrievers were never bad diggers. I bought this Golden Pyrenees and my god she just won’t stop. Every time I let her out. Pyrenees are stubborn to the core. So I bought a smart collar and it’s worked wonders. She’s figuring out who alpha is.
There’s a girl who I’m helping get into college. She has lunch at the Salvation Army everyday because her food stamps are just enough to feed her and her aging mother / son dinner. She works 40 hours per week at Walmart.
I agree there are some ****** people in the world. But how anyone could want to help a dog over a person doing everything they can but still can’t hardly feed themselves? Makes absolutely no sense to me.
The dog craze in America is totally insane. That’s my opinion.
I'll never understand this view. Helping animals and helping humans are not mutually exclusive. People can care about and do both. I spend a lot of time working with a couple different homeless outreaches in Louisville and similar amount with helping animals. Including one that is specifically to feed and help homeless people who have dogs. Believe me homeless/struggling people have infinity more help available to them than an animal ever will.
In the state of Kentucky animals are property. Until March 27th 2019 you could rape your dog. Think about the sickness of that. Think about Kentucky Farm Bureau being so twisted in to their necks in lobbyists/big corporate money that they fought that bill tooth and nail. Spun a tale to farmers that if you make sex between humans and animals illegal then next you thing you know they're going to say you can't artificially inseminate livestock. Think about that level of pathetic and evil to spin that tale to simple minded folks who don't know any better than to believe it. All the while they're being preyed on by people who they think are protecting and helping them. Our animal protection laws are the worst in the country literally. People torture and mangle dogs all the time and charges are never brought or if they are they are never filed because our laws are so backwards prosecutors find it nearly impossible to get a conviction on animal cruelty.
Animals have no voice and can only count on humans to help them to the best of their abilities. 6,000 dogs get euthanized every day in America because of our stupidity and idiots not fixing their dogs and having accidental litters that they dump, people back yard breeding, and AKC register blah blah idiots breeding. The selfishness of humans knows no ends really but that's a different topic.
I don't think the people who care about animals are the ones who don't care about the homeless, drug epidemics, unwanted pregnancy, hungry kids, vet suicides or any other problem humans have. I'd say we care about that kind of stuff so much that we try to do our parts in making the world a better place for all types of life. The people who buy a 2k breeder German Shepard and drop it off at the shelter after a month cause it barks too much are the ones who don't give a flying f about anything or anyone.
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I love my dogs, I love my kids more. I want dogs to eat, I want humans to eat more. I don’t want dogs to suffer, but would prefer that to a human suffering. If you mistreat animals you’re a pos.
If they can both live like Trump I’ll take it.
i understand, and I'm sure you're a good guy who does right by both people and animals. My point is just that two aren't a one or the other scenario and both should be worked on very prominently. I like to look at people doing nice things and applaud them regardless, not say you should be focusing your nice deeds towards another cause that the proverbial you or I think is more worthy. If you want to clean up litter god bless you, feed homeless, feed dogs, teach illiterates to read, god bless you equally.
@Cowtown Cat a few things. One Huskies as is the case with all pure breds have more health issues because of the closeness of breeding within most of their bloodlines. Seizures are side effect of that, that is somewhat common for Huskies unfortunately. They are known for having problems with zinc and Taurine which work in conjunction to do many things through the body one of which is to help smooth operating of the neurotransmitters in the brain. Over time a lack of zinc to help Taurine complete these processes lead to erratic and uncontrolled firings of the electrical impulses of the brain which in turn causes seizures.
There are some studies now that back some grains in dog food to help with Taurine as it is an Amino Acid that dogs can produce naturally in their body but is also supplemented through ingestion certain types of food. Never want to be feeding them a super high amount by any means but some may be okay.
The medications you have mentioned are a good place to start and pretty much are what most vets start with and try as they try to figure out what is going on.
Lastly I'd like to recommend a few things that I think may be beneficial for your dog from an over the counter. Get a bottle of Omega 3-6-9 1000mg all in one and put one in his food once a day fatty acids like fish oils are very good for cognitive function as well other things. Also put some Taurine in his food, start with 500mg a day and can probably safely give 1000mg a day depending on your dog's size. Lastly add some zinc to it as well. Use picolinate, gluconate, chelated, or methionine forms and try to avoid sulphate or oxide forms of it.
I'm sorry you're having these issues and I hope that is somewhat helpful. Next time you see your vet ask their opinion on Zinc and Taurine.
There are some studies now that back some grains in dog food to help with Taurine as it is an Amino Acid that dogs can produce naturally in their body but is also supplemented through ingestion certain types of food. Never want to be feeding them a super high amount by any means but some may be okay.
The medications you have mentioned are a good place to start and pretty much are what most vets start with and try as they try to figure out what is going on.
Lastly I'd like to recommend a few things that I think may be beneficial for your dog from an over the counter. Get a bottle of Omega 3-6-9 1000mg all in one and put one in his food once a day fatty acids like fish oils are very good for cognitive function as well other things. Also put some Taurine in his food, start with 500mg a day and can probably safely give 1000mg a day depending on your dog's size. Lastly add some zinc to it as well. Use picolinate, gluconate, chelated, or methionine forms and try to avoid sulphate or oxide forms of it.
I'm sorry you're having these issues and I hope that is somewhat helpful. Next time you see your vet ask their opinion on Zinc and Taurine.
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Nuroplex. It's made of essential oils and natural medicine for dogs and cats that have seizures. There are plenty of success stories
Years ago we had a three year old dog who had epilepsy. We gave her some kind of barbiturates for about a year, then phased them out. Never had another problem and she lived there years longer than life expectancy for her breed. Hope you will be able to lucky!
Thank you for taking time to let me know that. I have read quite a bit about the zinc and taurine before. Seems to be somewhat complex. We're still trying to figure it all out. Hopefully we figure it all out sooner rather than later.
not a problem. I have a Malamute mix as one of my dogs and a few years ago I read a lot of stuff on Huskies, Malmutes, Inus, etc.... and learned about the zinc/taurine inefficiency that's somewhat common. When I read your post I instantly hearkened back to those studies. I believe a Taurine test is fairly easily to do and zinc a little more complex but both if you haven't already done it would certainly be worth it. I also read that you said you only give the dog the heart worm or flea medicine every so often as to not over do it. I whole heartily agree with that and have a vet locally I like that does too.
I'm not sure if you've heard of Titers testing but it's essentially a test given to a dog to see if over the years of vaccinations and what not if your pet has built up an immunity and no longer needs certain forms of vaccinations. Not saying that necessarily is related to the seizures but you seem like a smart guy in terms of not wanting your dog over vaccinated and medicated and it's well worth it to see if your dog has built up immunity over the years.
You get a lot of mileage out of that whole "being a snot to people" act, but it's bound to bite you in the *** one of these days.
Like say an actual scientist with an actual biochem degree were to wander into this thread and encounter your usual unwarranted belligerence - this time paired with ignorance of incredibly fundamental biological phenomena.
... Oh wait! That's exactly what we have!
Allow me to replicate your trademark tongue lashing to anyone on this board who ever makes a mistake or offers a slightly goofy perspective on any given topic.
"Your level of wrongness is so novel and intriguing that it's actually difficult to measure with our current technology. In order to probe the true depths of your ineptitude, I've begun developing a state of the art idiometer; unfortunately it's still months away from FDA clearance for testing on human subjects.
Even my second grader understands that no extra-neural structure modifies CNS behavior to the same degree as the gonads via the axis they share with the pituitary gland and the hypothalamus, and furthermore, that it's entirely worthwhile to compare the repercussions of spaying and neutering due to the incredibly numerous physiological parallels between male and female hpg axis functionality.
I'll bet you weren't in class, either, when they explained that a substantial proportion of your neural tissue resides in your gut. Of course, you probably gave up on comprehending that material some time in undergrad, whereas I learned it while perusing the literature during recess in preschool, and in fact my 1 year old is presenting a brief talk on enteric neurotransmitters shortly before nap time today.
I hope next time you take a little time to put some thought into your post instead of subjecting us to your wild speculation and mindless drivel."
Ah, that does feel good. I get the appeal.
A couple drops under the tongue is best.
I rather help a dog then most humans any day Of the week.
" Beware of the sharp edged weapon called human being" DEATH- SPIRIT CRUSHER
" Beware of the sharp edged weapon called human being" DEATH- SPIRIT CRUSHER
You're welcome to your opinion but that doesnt mean you're right. I grew up dirt poor without a father for most of it. I made it by doing for myself. Other people can do the same.