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Jeans_15

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That's not evidence, my god. I could write an email that MrScary13 molests chickens. Try again.

I agree but this is some of the evidence that convicted Epstein and Ghislaine.

So it's been used in court to convict people. That's usually verified Information.
You can't just creat an email without being able to trace the source of that email.

It may be false but it still came from you. Why are these people emailing a convicted pedophile.

Hell we have proof a sitting congress person was texting Epstein, asking him suggestions for questions. Didn't know that until the emails were released. Now those emails have been proven true. Same with Hakeem Jefferies.
 
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The last politicians that cared about the deficit from the President's Office were HW Bush and Clinton. As a result, Clinton was able to run a budget surplus in his second term. Reagan cut taxes and increased spending on defense. W Bush and Trump followed suit. Republicans claim the mantle of fiscal responsibility. That's all they do.
What is this mob rule you speak of? There are 50 state legislatures and 50 governors. There is a Congress of 435 lower house members and 100 upper house members. Is this the mob you speak of?
The founders did not use the word democracy and yet held elections to establish the government that supported the Constitution they wrote. And they sent that document and its amendments to the states for ratification. The lower house of Congress is nicknamed the People's House. We do not have a direct democracy, although some states have a very active initiative and referendum processes.
Several things at different times at play here as far as budgets. If you know anyone in the Military they can vouch for what I am saying. GENERALLY when the Dems are in charge the focus for funds goes anywhere but the military. So the military gets behind for 4-8 years as money is diverted to social and pet programs like green energy. Then a new President comes in and feels like the military is way behind the curve and has to spend a lot of money to get it caught up. Its a tug of war constantly. Then you get things like the air port technology that is completely outdated and will take years to replace. Likely that the first ones put in will be obsolete before the last one is done. That is just poor planning but the cost is astronomical in money and lives. As for the mob rule, that is what some of the founding fathers characterized Democracy as. It is true. Yes, we vote for our representatives and vote on some things that come before us but overall, the people we elect make the decisions. In a true Democracy, which there are none and any that were tried failed, the people vote on everything - if 6 of 10 say "hang em" you hang em. Of course, the easy way around this but a bit sticky is to keep electing those who promise you more things for free all the while lining their pockets which is going on now in spade. Some where in my studies when the founders were studying all of the worlds governing authorities throughout the ages, someone mentioned a Democracy and one of them bristled and said something to the affect to that word never be mentioned in his presence and it is no where in our documents. We do have popular vote with the electoral college which I believe was also a brilliant move by the founders. Here are few quotes I found,

Even the Founding Fathers of the U.S., nowadays considered the model of a democracy, were strictly opposed to it. Without a single exception, they thought of democracy as nothing but mob-rule. — Hans-Hermann Hoppe
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The Founders knew that a democracy would lead to some kind of tyranny. The term democracy appears in none of our Founding documents. Their vision for us was a Republic and limited government. — Walter E. Williams
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We are now forming a republican government. Real liberty is never found in despotism or the extremes of democracy, but in moderate governments. — Alexander Hamilton
 

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Crazy that the release shows:

-Zionist Jews control the world governments through blackmail
-The Zionist Jews work for Isreal, Mossad and the Rothchilds
-Politicians (both parties), actors, musicians, ceo's, athletes are controlled by blackmail. Even Presidents
-Zionist Jews used underage girls/babies (usually white, never jewish). These victims were raped/tortured/killed
-Zionist Jews view themselves as genetically superior and hate all other races, especially whites.
-Zionist Jews call non jews goyim, which are like cattle and only exist to serve jews
-Zionist Jews hate Christians
-Pizzagate was real. Children were tortured/killed and sometimes eaten
-"Jerkey" was used as a term for child flesh or adrenochrome
-Zionist Jews are satanic and killed their victims in satanic rituals
-Bill Gates got an std and tried to sneak antibiotics to his wife
-Kash Paten, Bondi and others lied under oath to protect pedofiles

I can only imagine how bad the rest of the files are
I am surprised that anyone would be surprised by any of this. There are lots of moving parts here and I don't claim to know them all.

The Rothchilds are a well known family involved as well as the Rockefellers. One quote that is attributed to David Rockefeller is "some believe we belong to a secret cabal working against the best interest of the United States characterizing my family as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty and am proud of it."

J. Edgar Hoover who served way too long under 6 presidents wielded immense power to control and corrupt. The process of tempting and catching current and future politicians in compromising positions is well known and has been going on for decades, he was apparently the first master mind of using it. Much of it never gets used as they never know when the next leader they want comes along. Setting up and catching people in compromising positions is relatively easy given the natural bent of man to be lured by sex, money and fame.

Don't confuse the Zionist with regular Jews. They are two separate groups but share some things in common.

Who remembers George H Bush talking about the "new world order" in his state of the Union Address speech in 1991. The NWO is a real thing. Have you heard of the Club Bilderberg, Club of Rome and the Trilateral Commission? September 25, 2015 the UN came out with a document labeled "transforming our World: The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. In the preamble it calls this the "New Universal Agenda." On September 2015, Obama told the UN: "global integration (the merging of nations into ten regions) is an agenda that transcends the narrowly defined interest of nations states."

This is all just the tip of the ice berg as they say. To no one's surprise there is corruption all over the place but there is an undeniable goal, some just don't want to admit it. Take all of this for what it is worth.
 

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I'd water board maxwell, till she spilled the beans on everything..then I would let her go and work on everyone she rats out.
like they do with the mafia..

so far the whole handling of this is a mess.
Amen! But of course, most people are against torture, the death penalty abortion, because they think that will make them liked more by the god or supreme being that they fake worship once a week for about 40 minutes, while also just checking their phone the entire time.

They need to start bringing people in for questioning.
 
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Unfortunately nothing will happen. Nobody will be prosecuted. There is a political warfare going on between both parties. But when push comes to shove they will protect each other. And the American citizens (sheep) will continue to pay taxes to the governments to continue to make them flourish while the average citizen breaks there back for this country to be functionable
Bingo. It's amazing that of all of the people mentioned, none of them had sex with anyone.

They all thought they were above the law. And it turns out that they are right. The only people paying any price for all of this are people like Majorie "Trader" Greene. Man the American public is so damn stupid.
 
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I would LOVE to see every single person complicit have their entrails hanging from every overpass throughout this country. It will not happen. Accountability will not occur from this. There could be videos of a naked Clinton clapping cheeks with a 5 year old and the left would focus on Trump's name in the files. There could be videos of a naked Trump clapping cheeks with a 5 year old and republicans would focus on Clinton's name in the files. Politics has become such a tribal mindset and social media has only made it worse.
A.I. is saying "hold my beer". You ain't seen nothing yet. Right now, dumbasses are forwarding A.I. generated videos and human interest stories, but just wait until the election.
 

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Just like the Franklin Credit Union
How about the financial crisis of 2008? I think one low level fall guy went to jail. Everyone else got away with fraud and falsifying records. All of the big money execs! Their companies were fined billions... which was about the same as the rest of us paying a parking ticket.
 

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How about the financial crisis of 2008? I think one low level fall guy went to jail. Everyone else got away with fraud and falsifying records. All of the big money execs! Their companies were fined billions... which was about the same as the rest of us paying a parking ticket.
I think the Franklin Credit Union was about something else, wasn't it?
 
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I agree but this is some of the evidence that convicted Epstein and Ghislaine.

So it's been used in court to convict people. That's usually verified Information.
You can't just creat an email without being able to trace the source of that email.

It may be false but it still came from you. Why are these people emailing a convicted pedophile.

Hell we have proof a sitting congress person was texting Epstein, asking him suggestions for questions. Didn't know that until the emails were released. Now those emails have been proven true. Same with Hakeem Jefferies.
So you use this rationale against a Democrat but not Trump?
 
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So you use this rationale against a Democrat but not Trump?

Which part. Epstein and Ghislaine tesitfying they have nothing on Trump. The victims and survivors saying they never saw Trump doing anything inappropriate or Trump being the whistleblower on Epstein on 2006. Trump called them. They didn't ask for his help. He volunteered and told them to focus on Ghislaine.

Hey he was a Democrat when this happened so you may be onto something.
 
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Epstein is a Democrat Donor along with Ed Buck who sexes trafficked black men. If you liberals got out of your bubble of lies . You wouldn't be surprised by any of this. Who else would they be meeting and association with
 

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Democrat Donor predator before Epstein .

Ed Buck is a former prominent California Democratic political donor and activist who was convicted in 2021 and sentenced to 30 years in federal prison for running a "drug den" in his West Hollywood apartment, which resulted in the fatal methamphetamine overdoses of two Black men, Gemmel Moore in 2017 and Timothy Dean in 2019.
While some media commentary has grouped Buck alongside Jeffrey Epstein as examples of wealthy, connected individuals involved in criminal sexual behavior, they are distinct cases with different legal outcomes and criminal acts.
Key Facts About the Ed Buck Case
Conviction (2021): A federal jury found Buck guilty of nine felonies, including two counts of providing methamphetamine resulting in death, maintaining a drug-involved premises, and enticement to travel in interstate commerce for prostitution.
Method of Operation: Prosecutors described Buck as a "predator" who preyed on vulnerable, often homeless, Black gay men, enticing them with drugs and money to travel to his home, where he injected them with drugs, often without their consent or while they were unconscious.
Deaths and Overdoses: Gemmel Moore (26) died in July 2017, and Timothy Dean (55) died in January 2019. A third man overdosed in September 2019 but survived, leading to Buck's arrest.
Political Ties: Buck donated over $500,000 to Democratic causes and politicians, including Gavin Newsom and various local officials. Following his arrest, many politicians donated his contributions to charity.
 

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850 bizarre references to pizza in the latest Epstein files release. Seems super normal for these elites to be talking about what’s on the pizza menu for the day with Jeffrey Epstein.

 

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Amen! But of course, most people are against torture, the death penalty abortion, because they think that will make them liked more by the god or supreme being that they fake worship once a week for about 40 minutes, while also just checking their phone the entire time.

They need to start bringing people in for questioning.
do we make the (natural/moral)law void by faith?

nay we establish it.

for the law is the knowledge of sin.
 

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850 bizarre references to pizza in the latest Epstein files release. Seems super normal for these elites to be talking about what’s on the pizza menu for the day with Jeffrey Epstein.


Haha...I do love that people are now going to play dumb "Big deal, they were just talking about pizza"

Come on.
 
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incorrect, read the bible
But faith has been used, over and over, by millions of people, to kill others.
We both know that. There is no denying that at all.

So now that we both agree with that AND that we both agree there is a separation of church and state, in this country. We can also both agree that faith and law do not need to mix.

It doesn't mean that our laws can't be kind and forgiving but it also doesn't mean that they can't be harsh and just.
 
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Democrat Donor predator before Epstein .

Ed Buck is a former prominent California Democratic political donor and activist who was convicted in 2021 and sentenced to 30 years in federal prison for running a "drug den" in his West Hollywood apartment, which resulted in the fatal methamphetamine overdoses of two Black men, Gemmel Moore in 2017 and Timothy Dean in 2019.
While some media commentary has grouped Buck alongside Jeffrey Epstein as examples of wealthy, connected individuals involved in criminal sexual behavior, they are distinct cases with different legal outcomes and criminal acts.
Key Facts About the Ed Buck Case
Conviction (2021): A federal jury found Buck guilty of nine felonies, including two counts of providing methamphetamine resulting in death, maintaining a drug-involved premises, and enticement to travel in interstate commerce for prostitution.
Method of Operation: Prosecutors described Buck as a "predator" who preyed on vulnerable, often homeless, Black gay men, enticing them with drugs and money to travel to his home, where he injected them with drugs, often without their consent or while they were unconscious.
Deaths and Overdoses: Gemmel Moore (26) died in July 2017, and Timothy Dean (55) died in January 2019. A third man overdosed in September 2019 but survived, leading to Buck's arrest.
Political Ties: Buck donated over $500,000 to Democratic causes and politicians, including Gavin Newsom and various local officials. Following his arrest, many politicians donated his contributions to charity.
Teddy Lieu and Lil Adam Schiff were well known at Eddie's little "parties"
 

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Teddy Lieu and Lil Adam Schiff were well known at Eddie's little "parties"
Sure. Just post lies. Trump boinked McCauley Culkin while filming Home Alone 2, got him started on coke, and ruined the next great American kid actor. Source? I heard it on a podcast so it must be true.
 

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So you use this rationale against Trump but not a democrat?
Where do I ever post that I love democrats or support Biden? I have traditionally voted red most of my life. Trump is not a real Republican. He is already driving up the deficit dramatically. All of this power grab by the executive branch isn’t going to be as funny when democrats come in to power and do the same strong arming he does. Pelosi or Schumer don’t have the guts to ever do anything but if Trumps antics cause someone like Gavin Newsome to get elected and have congress and senate behind him, it will move this country in a direction I don’t think you guys will enjoy. In short: Bullying half the country into submission, and reveling while you do it may be enjoyable and relieve a lot of buildup from listening to Biden, but is it worth turning a whole generation of young kids into democrats? If you are 75 years old, sure. But I have kids and I don’t want them to have to live in a country run by liberals because some 80 year old jackass wants to turn the country into his farewell revenge tour before hitting his dirt nap.
 
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Where do I ever post that I love democrats or support Biden? I have traditionally voted red most of my life. Trump is not a real Republican. He is already driving up the deficit dramatically. All of this power grab by the executive branch isn’t going to be as funny when democrats come in to power and do the same strong arming he does. Pelosi or Schumer don’t have the guts to ever do anything but if Trumps antics cause someone like Gavin Newsome to get elected and have congress and senate behind him, it will move this country in a direction I don’t think you guys will enjoy. In short: Bullying half the country into submission, and reveling while you do it may be enjoyable and relieve a lot of buildup from listening to Biden, but is it worth turning a whole generation of young kids into democrats? If you are 75 years old, sure. But I have kids and I don’t want them to have to live in a country run by liberals because some 80 year old jackass wants to turn the country into his farewell revenge tour before hitting h is dirt nap.

A large pct of people just don't like Trump, it has little to do with policy and more to do with personality. You seem to fit that mold. I can't help that people aren't capable of separating the 2 that is on those individuals. Young people have always leaned left and voted democrat. That is nothing new. If Dems win the mid-terms,don't worry about anything being done in 27 and 28, it will be just like the last 2 years of his previous term. Nothing but impeachment hearings and wasted money trying to convict a lame duck.
 

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A large pct of people just don't like Trump, it has little to do with policy and more to do with personality. You seem to fit that mold. I can't help that people aren't capable of separating the 2 that is on those individuals. Young people have always leaned left and voted democrat. That is nothing new. If Dems win the mid-terms,don't worry about anything being done in 27 and 28, it will be just like the last 2 years of his previous term. Nothing but impeachment hearings and wasted money trying to convict a lame duck.
I wonder if they will even bother with trying to impeach. At that point it seems like you would just ride it out.

Now, on to the bolded...this is most of us. Just look here at the posts. Once someone gets on someones "bad side", all that happens is they get attacked.
 

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A large pct of people just don't like Trump, it has little to do with policy and more to do with personality. You seem to fit that mold. I can't help that people aren't capable of separating the 2 that is on those individuals. Young people have always leaned left and voted democrat. That is nothing new. If Dems win the mid-terms,don't worry about anything being done in 27 and 28, it will be just like the last 2 years of his previous term. Nothing but impeachment hearings and wasted money trying to convict a lame duck.
I love America and Trump is doing everything in his power to turn it into a different form of government. The country has survived for 250 years based on checks and balances and equal branches. I didn’t dislike Trump until he decided to go nuclear and reform the country as he sees fit. The president is supposed to PRESIDE, not create the America he thinks we all need. You sure won’t enjoy it when Newsome stacks the Supreme Court and turns the whole country into California 2.0. Trump thrives by telling you that bullying and undermining half the country is “winning”. We only win when the country does well together. Hillary was an idiot when she used the us vs them analogy and labeled Republicans as Deplorables. They used it as a rallying cry and completely overran democrats. But if Republicans keep going too far, the swing the other way is going to be more permanent and detrimental than you guys can see past your immediate gratification from “sticking it to libs”.
 
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