I just answered as I saw fit. I call them extremists... you call them nuts. IMO they are one in the same.
OT: Happiness
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a few of the particular results of the Silver study stood out. Contrary to betterchicken's suggestions, the higher the level of educational attainment (overall) the higher the score. So, if liberals are in fact getting more schooling, it isn't enough to overcome whatever else is causing their lower scores. There is a massive difference between religious vs. non-religious. Interesting that Liberal Whites are 8 points lower than Liberal Blacks - this despite all of the screeching from white liberals about how oppressive and systemically racists the Country is, how black americans are going to struggle with being able to provide an id when voting, etc. Couple that with the avg. income per household of whites being higher than that of blacks, how can white liberals, with all of their education and advantages and income and moral clarity be so unhappy?
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Yeah, sometimes it is hard, but personally, if you know its the right thing, and you do it, you will feel better about yourself than if you did what you knew what the wrong thing (guilt and regret), which should = a higher level of happiness and satisfaction with yourself.
I love that people think marriage is the key to being happy when the divorce rate is over 50%...goofballs.
you should actually read the survey before popping off. Loneliness is one of the keys to the depression of liberal women. Funny that you attack the other side for finding joy in marriage, while the purple haired women who are single and screaming in the streets, seem to get a pass from you.
There is a difference between being happy in my marriage and responding to a survey… and the 280 pound liberal woman next door got divorced and is marching in the streets. 50% of her and I got divorced so Your rationalization is that half of us in this example are divorced so there’s no way marriage can make my wife and I happy.
Goofball.
Psalm 116:11 - 11Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.
This is a study by the University of Chicago.
You yourself have said people won’t change their minds on this board. I am hoping you prove your own comment wrong and accept this fact that it is far from insane to suggest marriage is an important factor in predicting happiness
- Significant Happiness Boost: Analysis of the General Social Survey (GSS) shows that marriage is the most important factor in predicting American happiness.
- The "Marriage Premium": Married people are consistently happier, with studies highlighting a 30% gap in reported happiness compared to singles. This holds true across various demographics, including gender, age, and income.
You yourself have said people won’t change their minds on this board. I am hoping you prove your own comment wrong and accept this fact that it is far from insane to suggest marriage is an important factor in predicting happiness
You get married and you will be using the right hand ALL THE TIME.
Feels like a divorce recovery board for some. That must mean no marriage can produce happiness. The logic here is entertaining
50% end in divorce.
Out of the other 50% do you think that all of those people are happy? Probably not. Right?
That is the data! Ha
50% of marriages end in divorce. So we know at least half are miserable.
Out of the other 50% I think we can safely say that at least 10% of them are unhappy but not divorced.
So 60% of married people are not happy.
I think they are saying the happiest people they know are ones that married the right person. At least thats what i'm saying
This is a good point. I mean the declaration of independence lists the pursuit of happiness as a main right of Americans, and is internalized as very important. But if your pursuit is justice, enlightenment, learning, knowledge, skill then a person might feel "unhappy" because their pursuit is never ending. I know a lot of highly intelligent, very curious people...like the smartest people and they will never say they are happy because they wake up every day wanting to know more and see a better world. Just another reason that these studies are worthless. Even if a study said that MAGA people are miserable, I wouldn't trust it because it would be easy to find a cross-section of maga that are miserable.
I actually had high hopes for you as a poster but you're proving me wrong. You go left on a lot of issues and being well spoken at times, I thought you wanted honest dialogue. I was wrong
* Look above - you claim you go on the data, then you just make up your own data. twice. You're squirming badly.
** Remember: You are the one who put people claiming marriage is a reason for their happiness in the same category as Holocaust deniers. You're as loony as the red salsa guy. The University of Chicago made you look very very foolish and you will not admit it.
For a guy who likes to pound his chest that he is smart, you sure look stupid in this post. Let's see, you basically say "Well... the reasons conservatives are happier is because....." (and you follow this with your own speculation that is not found in the study) But then, you go on to make up your own study (no link) and make a wild claim "Well... the reasons liberals are happier is the right keeps their base pissed."
Wow.
Get a grip - you are arguing with yourself here and you are all over the board. I have shown studies proving conservatives are happier people (U of Chicago and there are PLENTY more studies). The migration right now is to RED STATES. You keep fighting against windmills and we'll keep laughing at your educational prowess.
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Another study (KYLantern, more bad news for the unhappy left:
- Individual Happiness: Conservatives and Republicans are consistently found to be happier than liberals, partly due to higher rates of religiosity, marriage, and a tendency to view themselves as in control of their own success.
- The "happiness gap" appears more closely linked to personal ideology and social factors (like community and church) rather than just the geographic location or state-level policies.
My advice...stop having high hopes for posters. This is not real life.
The data is simple...50% of marriages end in divorce. So we know that at the very least, 50% of people that get married, end up unhappy (or happy because they are divorced). I never looked at the U of C stuff you posted. I don't care.
You were right about being wrong though!
This explains you as a poster. You don't care about facts, data or research. You're a flame-thrower. Love to attack both sides, and I'm not sure you've ever said a thing about what you believe or stand for. You're here to simply be a flame-thrower.
No biggie. Just helps set the stage for who is enjoyable to converse with and who isn't.
I gave you data, you just didn't like it. 50% of marriage end in divorce. They are not happy.
No need to reply.
I accept your white flag. Happiness BY FAR being marriage as the #1 reason and yet you lumped this belief as being on the same list with the Holocaust deniers.
I think you're trying to figure out when to be a smart *ss on the board (as you do with a lot of topics) and when to be serious (Iran). Again, we're feeling each other out as posters. I misread you as a serious poster. That's not a slam like it sounds - I think you're just enjoying launching some bombs from the back row. I'm fine with that as long as I get it and I think I do now.
I am not serious, this is a post board. 50% of marriages end in divorce, they are not happy.
I am not feeling out any posters, I don't even look at who I am replying to.
This board is filled with disagreeable people. Disagreeable people get divorced.
But the divorce rate for people who remarry is extraordinarily high. So you have much better than a coin flip to stay married, which is kind of incredible when you think about how long people are together. But if you get one divorce you are much more likely to get divorce two and three and four. Marriage outcomes are extremely predictable based on personality types...people are predisposed to be unfaithful, people have disagreeable personalities, and certain people are exceptionally self-centered. Others will not cheat no matter what, are compromising, and find value in loyalty.
Disagreeable people aren't necessarily unhappy, they just don't value making other people happy, which is the staple of keeping a marriage together. You have to be really careful with happiness studies because they are extremely easy to skew. Just a simple line of question. "Are you divorced?" "Are you to blame for the divorce?" "Do you experience loneliness?" , "Rate your happiness from 10(extremely happy) to 1(miserable). People can be primed to answer anything in anyway.
Or they see through the mental illness of the woman who is cheating with them. In my experience, any woman who would sleep with a married man, be willing to lead to a divorce, force his kids to live in a broken home, obviously doesn't care about the man, and is certifiably either temporarily or permanently nuts. Which is why, if you marry her, it will end in infidelity and divorce and rinse and repeat. Even if the cheat partner is miserable in their marriage you wait for them to figure it out before moving in. Most woman over the age of 25 worth cheating with for attraction are fricken nuts.
One of the greatest turns ons for a woman...is trying to make a married man stray.
Jordan Peterson level pseudo-science would say they want to tame the bad boy or the monster, which might show up as 30 year old co-worker who WANTS to cheat on his wife, and she can tame this guy and make him her own...but she is either stupid or crazy to think this...hence why those type of woman haven't been attractive to me. Last one I came in contact with is now 40 with 4 kids by 3 guys. To me personally, I haven't met a woman worth that amount of trouble...every young woman is just a matter of time before she is ugly and crazy.