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I love that people think marriage is the key to being happy when the divorce rate is over 50%...goofballs.
I mean statistically they aren't wrong....My assumption with marriage would be the general package that comes with it. Ie: partnership, support, dual income, kids/legacy, purpose.

As you imply, I doubt the happiness starts and ends with a fairytale lingerie model wife who worships you while you travel the world together
 
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I mean statistically they aren't wrong....My assumption with marriage would be the general package that comes with it. Ie: partnership, support, dual income, kids/legacy, purpose.

As you imply, I doubt the happiness starts and ends with a fairytale lingerie model wife who worships you while you travel the world together
Sure...but you can do all that without the legal contract of marriage. Hell you can even still have the ceremony.

The dual income is a total plus...especially if she is a high paid lingerie model!
 
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That is the data! Ha
50% of marriages end in divorce. So we know at least half are miserable.

Out of the other 50% I think we can safely say that at least 10% of them are unhappy but not divorced.

So 60% of married people are not happy.
You can get divorced and not be miserable. Again, kids....

Im not making the argument that divorced ppl are happy, but I would wager most of them try again, many of them have kids with their ex spouse, etc....The specific experience might be miserable, but the end result for a person isnt misery, I suspect.
 
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Sure...but you can do all that without the legal contract of marriage. Hell you can even still have the ceremony.

The dual income is a total plus...especially if she is a high paid lingerie model!
You could adopt kids and build a legacy too, but traditionally people dont do it that way....People overwhelmingly relate marriage to that list of benefits.

So back to the original point, just because 50% of marriages end in divorce, doesnt mean that those 50% are infinitely miserable for the rest of their existence. Many re marry, many built a family and legacy, many teamed with their spouse to build a career or business. Etc.
 

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According to google 72% of lezbo's that we're married from 2019 till now got a divorce. Yikes. Are lesbians really that unhappy? They always looks so happy in the movies I see them in.
Lol

I was watching a movie last night and it had two lesbians who of course are drop dead gorgeous, both the same age, in their early 30s and happy as a clam. I’m thinking “wait a minute…” A little different than the 280 pound butch across the street who screams at people and hates men.
 

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Lol

I was watching a movie last night and it had two lesbians who of course are drop dead gorgeous, both the same age, in their early 30s and happy as a clam. I’m thinking “wait a minute…” A little different than the 280 pound butch across the street who screams at people and hates men.

.. Last week, my wife and I were pulling into the parking lot of a restaurant to go eat and a couple of larger fat lesbians were getting out of their car and walking into the restaurant , and I just said "lesbian alert" , and my wife turned and gave me a death stare and said , "do you have to act like that every time you see a lesbian"? Yes, yes i do
 

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You could adopt kids and build a legacy too, but traditionally people dont do it that way....People overwhelmingly relate marriage to that list of benefits.

So back to the original point, just because 50% of marriages end in divorce, doesnt mean that those 50% are infinitely miserable for the rest of their existence. Many re marry, many built a family and legacy, many teamed with their spouse to build a career or business. Etc.
And many are not happy.
 

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Which again doesn't disprove the studies that say getting married is the most recordable metric tied to happiness......So you've twisted this 3-4 different ways, and you still cant create a valid argument.

The guy is thick man. He's in a dark spot on this issue and he can't get out.

It's like saying "I had a bad experience at Disneyland - so it is impossible that Disneyland is the happiest place on earth and a driver of happiness for others. Simply cannot be!" (Eyes and ears closed and repeating "nananana - I can't hear you - I am right...")

69 has such a blindspot on this - he can't see it. But maybe he'll tell us for the 124th time that not all marriages are good.
 

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Which again doesn't disprove the studies that say getting married is the most recordable metric tied to happiness......So you've twisted this 3-4 different ways, and you still cant create a valid argument.
This is a post board...I don't need "valid arguments"

With that said, all my points have been dead on balls accurate.
 
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This is a post board...I don't need "valid arguments"

With that said, all my points have been dead on balls accurate.
Or you're just not smart enough to formulate a defensible argument, so you just spin chaos to pretend to bring value to conversations...

Having a point and having an argument are 2 different things....just like being educated and being intelligent.

The point: 50% of marriages end in divorce.

You automatically correlate that to "50% of people who get married are miserable", which is a lazy and pathetic claim(not argument).

If everyone who got divorced, thought marriage was so miserable, they wouldnt re-marry. People who got divorced often had children and added purpose and legacy to their life.....I dont need to go in and list everything I already listed.

The point being that your peoples lives and happiness doesnt end in a specific moment with divorce. Life goes on and people still pursue marriage to experience happiness, per all available data.
 
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Or you're just not smart enough to formulate a defensible argument, so you just spin chaos to pretend to bring value to conversations...

Having a point and having an argument are 2 different things....just like being educated and being intelligent.

The point: 50% of marriages end in divorce.

You automatically correlate that to "50% of people who get married are miserable", which is a lazy and pathetic claim(not argument).

If everyone who got divorced, thought marriage was so miserable, they wouldnt re-marry. People who got divorced often had children and added purpose and legacy to their life.....I dont need to go in and list everything I already listed.

The point being that your peoples lives and happiness doesnt end in a specific moment with divorce. Life goes on and people still pursue marriage to experience happiness, per all available data.

Allow me to refer you to a pair of quotes from Mark Twain regarding the guy (bigfan69) you are arguing with:

  • "No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot"
  • ”Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
 

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Almost to a person, the most miserable, insufferable people ive ever encountered. The OGs of manufactured rage and being perpetually offended.

People on the left continue to lecture us that we should listen to scientists, doctors and experts in the field. Well, up until a few decades ago, those experts told us homosexuality was a mental disorder and a mental illness.

The World health organization had homosexuality on its list of International classification of diseases until the 90s. Then politicians pressured our medical experts to change things. Now we are surprised their rate of divorce is remarkable, the levels of anxiety and depression are off the charts….?

I couldn’t care less what people do sexually. To each his own. But but don’t lecture me that half the stuff going on in the society today is normal. It is not.
 

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According to google 72% of lezbo's that we're married from 2019 till now got a divorce. Yikes. Are lesbians really that unhappy? They always looks so happy in the movies I see them in.
That's because lesbians aren't real, and it's an anti-male defense mechanism.

Everyone likes women because in general they are pleasant to the senses, as they were created.

There is a phenomena called "lesbian bed death" where 90% of lesbian women cease sleeping together when they enter their 40s. The creases appear, and they aren't biologically wired to continue their attraction like men are.
 

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Or you're just not smart enough to formulate a defensible argument, so you just spin chaos to pretend to bring value to conversations...

Having a point and having an argument are 2 different things....just like being educated and being intelligent.

The point: 50% of marriages end in divorce.

You automatically correlate that to "50% of people who get married are miserable", which is a lazy and pathetic claim(not argument).

If everyone who got divorced, thought marriage was so miserable, they wouldnt re-marry. People who got divorced often had children and added purpose and legacy to their life.....I dont need to go in and list everything I already listed.

The point being that your peoples lives and happiness doesnt end in a specific moment with divorce. Life goes on and people still pursue marriage to experience happiness, per all available data.
You literally are making my point, over and over.
 

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There is nothing better than married people literally posting paragraphs and paragraphs with stats and name calling...trying to convince everyone how happy they are...
 
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There is nothing better than married people literally posting paragraphs and paragraphs with stats and name calling...trying to convince everyone how happy they are...
Coming from the 30 something year old teacher, with no kids, no wife, rents, and drives a 6 year old Ford Focus.....probably with $8k in a Twitter advised stock portfolio and $45k in student loan debt that you are making minimum payments and banking on being forgiven.

I think I'll take my marriage, life and happiness advice from literally anyone else lol
 

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you should actually read the survey before popping off. Loneliness is one of the keys to the depression of liberal women. Funny that you attack the other side for finding joy in marriage, while the purple haired women who are single and screaming in the streets, seem to get a pass from you.

There is a difference between being happy in my marriage and responding to a survey… and the 280 pound liberal woman next door got divorced and is marching in the streets. 50% of her and I got divorced so Your rationalization is that half of us in this example are divorced so there’s no way marriage can make my wife and I happy.

Goofball.
Yes - loneliness post retirement is a huge killer among men.
 

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According to google 72% of lezbo's that we're married from 2019 till now got a divorce. Yikes. Are lesbians really that unhappy? They always looks so happy in the movies I see them in.
Lesbians have an alarming amount of domestic violence. The gay guys are the only normal ones in the alphabet soup when it comes to violence
 
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Coming from the 30 something year old teacher, with no kids, no wife, rents, and drives a 6 year old Ford Focus.....probably with $8k in a Twitter advised stock portfolio and $45k in student loan debt that you are making minimum payments and banking on being forgiven.

I think I'll take my marriage, life and happiness advice from literally anyone else lol
I gotta stop sharing so much! All of that is 100% accurate!!

Except the renting part. I live at home with my Mom and Dad still.
 
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Some more unsurprising survey results:

 

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Apparently of those nuts, the non religious liberals seem to be much, much nuttier than the others.

Nice!

When a study by Pew Research Group shows imperical evidence that liberals are miserable and mentally ill - What's a social liberal supposed to do?? Well, duh: Attack the study, attack the people in the study.

In other words: Stay miserable and remain in denial about the misery of you and your fellow libs. Lol. These studies are the gift that keep on giving.
 
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1. Their husbands wear pink hats and have no testicles.
2. Cats
3. The mirrors in their house work
4. Mental illness
5. Butch is not the man they had hoped for
6. They stopped buying razors 23 years ago and things are getting itchy
7. The fat ones drive tiny cars
8. They voted for Joe and he touched their kids.
9. Green and purple hair is a bad look in the shower drain
10. The Don
Lyle, the Effeminate Heterosexual - Saturday Night Live - YouTube
 

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Nice!

When a study by Pew Research Group shows imperical evidence that liberals are miserable and mentally ill - What's a social liberal supposed to do?? Well, duh: Attack the study, attack the people in the study.

In other words: Stay miserable and remain in denial about the misery of you and your fellow libs. Lol. These studies are the gift that keep on giving.
These studies are as reliable as the woman that stays with her abusive hubby because "he loves her and we just don't get it"

You are confusing filling out a survey with a "study"

This is like parents that believe everything their kids tell them.
 

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People on the left continue to lecture us that we should listen to scientists, doctors and experts in the field. Well, up until a few decades ago, those experts told us homosexuality was a mental disorder and a mental illness.

The World health organization had homosexuality on its list of International classification of diseases until the 90s. Then politicians pressured our medical experts to change things. Now we are surprised their rate of divorce is remarkable, the levels of anxiety and depression are off the charts….?

I couldn’t care less what people do sexually. To each his own. But but don’t lecture me that half the stuff going on in the society today is normal. It is not.
You make a good point about science having cultural guardrails. It really isn't supposed to. A scientist is supposed to just find your dead body and cut it up and see what killed you, and not even care if it helps or not, just objectively discovered why you died. Of course other people want their bodies to be sacred, or given proper burial, or at least they want the scientist to come to helpful conclusions.
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But that isn't the point of a lot of science. Treating people with respect, tolerance, and understanding is not scientific but scientists still have to follow those rules because they live in our society and use our money. Most science done in the past wouldn't be allowed today because of guardrails and culture of not just giving your wife an experimental vaccine or something. Scientists shouldn't be good people but their studies should be good studies, just like #23 on the Bulls doesn't have to be a good person, just a great basketball player. This is why it isn't about trusting scientists...but understanding who the good/bad scientists are...some people in science just do bad science.
 

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Married people, until they are divorced, don't want to admit that they ****** up and that they are unhappy. It is a hard pill to swallow.

It is like admitting the new car you bought sucks...no one wants to admit that.

As far as crazy libs being less happy, 100% agree...but that is what they LOVE. We all know people that are happy when they are miserable. We all work with those people. They get off on it.
 

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These studies are as reliable as the woman that stays with her abusive hubby because "he loves her and we just don't get it"

You are confusing filling out a survey with a "study"

This is like parents that believe everything their kids tell them.

You can deny and obfuscate all you'd like. There was a 50-YEAR STUDY on the topic done by the University of Chicago. They analyzed date over five decades. This wasn't a slip of paper filled out while leaving the grocery store.

I choose the believe the data, the analysis, the 50-year study over your falsely claiming without evidence that everyone just lies about their marriage in an anonymous study.
 

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You can deny and obfuscate all you'd like. There was a 50-YEAR STUDY on the topic done by the University of Chicago. They analyzed date over five decades. This wasn't a slip of paper filled out while leaving the grocery store.

I choose the believe the data, the analysis, the 50-year study over your falsely claiming without evidence that everyone just lies about their marriage in an anonymous study.
The fact that you are screaming about it and using bold font, proves the point.
 

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Look at this scientific study!

The survey asked people whether they were “very happy,” “pretty happy,” or “not too happy.” The research then converted the answers into scores on a scale of -100 (sad) to 100 (happy).


My god, was this completed by kindergarten teachers??? Did they have to draw a happy face or sad face?

 
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I wonder why...
What about the people that are only happy when they are sad???

I work with one older (married lady with kid and religion and she is conservative) and she starts her sentences with "Well, I guess you heard what happened to me..."

And it is never anything positive, but she is happy that it is negative.

When something good does happen she is always like "well, what about..."
 

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Look at this scientific study!
Let’s do that. 50 year study (not simply a poll or a Survey as you falsely claim) by the NORC at the University of Chicago. https://news.uchicago.edu/story/happiness-among-americans-dips-five-decade-low

Keep fighting the data…keep Fighting the analysis… stomp your feet a little more. Scream and yell at us like a Karen that you are not actually miserable. The study must be wrong. It has to be according to you, because you know some married people that are unhappy by golly 😂😆

We just appreciate you proving to us which side of the miserable scale you are on. Lol. But go ahead and tell us again that you think this is just a random Survey or Poll when the rest of us can see, it was 50 years of analysis, studying and research by one of the most respected research groups in America.
 

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Let’s do that. 50 year study (not simply a poll or a Survey as you falsely claim) by the NORC at the University of Chicago. https://news.uchicago.edu/story/happiness-among-americans-dips-five-decade-low

Keep fighting the data…keep Fighting the analysis… stomp your feet a little more. Scream and yell at us like a Karen that you are not actually miserable. The study must be wrong. It has to be according to you, because you know some married people that are unhappy by golly 😂😆

We just appreciate you proving to us which side of the miserable scale you are on. Lol. But go ahead and tell us again that you think this is just a random Survey or Poll when the rest of us can see, it was 50 years of analysis, studying and research by one of the most respected research groups in America.
The survey asked people whether they were “very happy,” “pretty happy,” or “not too happy.” The research then converted the answers into scores on a scale of -100 (sad) to 100 (happy).

This is so scientific!

You know you are talking about a soft science, right? This is sociology, it is not a hard science.
 

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When we are little, for girls especially, we are taught/told that when you grow up you should get married and start a family, that you will meet your soulmate/prince charming.

As a child, girls especially, have been conditioned to think that "happiness" is marriage and kids and the ones that don't want that are "different" or "wrong"

It is just like a parent trying to get their kid to be a Husker fan and if that kid likes UT the parent "judges" them.

Now, MOST kids come from (or came from) married couples, so of course they are going to beat that idea into their kids...just like the divorced parents are going to try and warn their kids and/or tell them "just make sure you find the right person"

What I am saying, is that being with the right person probably makes you happy. The wedding ring has nothing to do with it. That is theatrics.