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Fcmchi1

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A former NFL player who killed 6 and took his own life had 'unusually severe' stage 2 CTE, expert says​


I love football, especially the college game. I played three years in high school and one in college before tearing up me knee.

But the announcement today about the pathology results on Phillip Adam’s brain add to my concern these last years whether my football interest contributes to this sad health problem.
 
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WestCoastWildcat

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The fact that we can only confirm CTE post-mortem should give everyone pause. I have a friend who is a neuropathologist in Dallas I plan ask about progress being made with prevention, treatment and diagnosis. Many parents these days are applying prevention by not allowing their kids to play football. I’ve seen some nasty concussions from soccer players butting heads. When this topic comes up I always think about Junior Seau and how he suffered after years playing football. We need to know more about long-term health risks of head trauma for contact sports where head trauma is common.
 
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fcmchi said:

A former NFL player who killed 6 and took his own life had 'unusually severe' stage 2 CTE, expert says​


I love football, especially the college game. I played three years in high school and one in college before tearing up me knee.

But the announcement today about the pathology results on Phillip Adam’s brain add to my concern these last years whether my football interest contributes to this sad health problem.
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I have been knocked out! No fun at all! I had 30 fights in the ring as an amateur boxer! Boxing 🥊, MMA, and football 🏈 would best be served by banning them all!
The head cannot absorb excessive trauma without ramifications! I’ve been a licensed psychotherapist in Illinois for 22 years !
Kind of like Russian Roulette or getting Covid! Lots of risks! And for what?
 
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1060Ivy

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Is it possible to play football, box, or play more violent sports without increasing the risk of head trauma? Most likely, no. These sports governing bodies have / are attempting to reduce the risk with rule changes. Will these rule changes be enough to ensure these sports remain popular and safe enough for participants is the multi-billion dollar question

My layman’s view is that for some people one concussion is far too many. For others, the effects of a concussion appear to be less than a hangover - based on their own physiology, not their opinion on the subject. A concussion is a traumatic event but it appears that some people appear to be able to manage / recovery significantly better than others. No clue what makes this “difference” or even if this “difference” exists and is provable. Would like to be able to point to research that substantiates this view and eventually be able to ensure that those who are more likely affected by concussions be discouraged from these sports / behaviors. It’s a personal opinion without a shred of science/data to back it up so at this point probably simply a hope.
 
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phatcat_rivals223240

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The difference between football, UFC, boxing vs most other sports is that the object of the game is to collide with people. Further, most protections that protect against collisions, such as padding and helmets, don't prevent collisions, which, as I understand it, usually occur when the brain collides with the skull from the inside. So a clean hit away from the head doesn't really prevent a concussion because you can get one just from the impact with the ground. Not a brain expert, but I don't see a solution, ever.
 
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docrugby1

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I posted in an earlier thread that a new rapid blood test was available that can detect whether a concussion has occurred. The test can be used to allow return to competition during the game or afterwards. Sorry, I can't remember the reference (Multiple rugby related LOCs and other head injuries ?)
 
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Football is symbolic war. It is the closest sport to war, without arms. We send 18 year old kids to die, to defend our country. Question is, do we want to symbolize this in a sport in which there is the possibility of serious, life-long impairment? Apparently we do.

The solution may be in helmet design. In the event of a fall off my horse to land on my head (which could be at least a force equal to what any football player experiences), I wear a helmet which disperses the force of the impact to protect my brain (or what is left of it) from injury. This is accomplished by a layer of highly compressed insulating material, EPS, which is comprised of beads that burst when struck and are crucial in absorbing and dissipating energy from an impact.

I haven't seen the inside of a football helmet since I was in high school, although I suspect it is still just some type of cushions to soften blows. Clearly not enough. The energy dispersing helmets are $600 a pop, and lose their capacity to protect after a significant impact, so need to be replaced. However, what is more important, providing a different color helmet for each game, for some kind of marketing image or replacing with a quality helmet to protect head injury, that will be more expensive? With all the money being made from college football for almost everyone except the players, this should be a no brainer.
 
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stpaulcat

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wicker said:
The issue is the force at which players collide
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Thus my suggestion for energy dispersing helmets. Problem is, I believe the current ones are only good for one severe impact, so that's an expensive solution. However, they do significantly soften the blow.
 
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Dugan15

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wicker said:
The issue is the force at which players collide
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No disrespect intended, Wicker. But, hasn’t research shown that it is not just the force…but the repetition over time. There is not such tremendous force as linemen battle on the line of scrimmage, but at 50 times per game and innumerably in practice, there is a cumulative penalty.
 
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Kawacko71

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stpaulcat said:
Football is symbolic war. It is the closest sport to war, without arms. We send 18 year old kids to die, to defend our country. Question is, do we want to symbolize this in a sport in which there is the possibility of serious, life-long impairment? Apparently we do.

The solution may be in helmet design. In the event of a fall off my horse to land on my head (which could be at least a force equal to what any football player experiences), I wear a helmet which disperses the force of the impact to protect my brain (or what is left of it) from injury. This is accomplished by a layer of highly compressed insulating material, EPS, which is comprised of beads that burst when struck and are crucial in absorbing and dissipating energy from an impact.

I haven't seen the inside of a football helmet since I was in high school, although I suspect it is still just some type of cushions to soften blows. Clearly not enough. The energy dispersing helmets are $600 a pop, and lose their capacity to protect after a significant impact, so need to be replaced. However, what is more important, providing a different color helmet for each game, for some kind of marketing image or replacing with a quality helmet to protect head injury, that will be more expensive? With all the money being made from college football for almost everyone except the players, this should be a no brainer.
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Or you could replace the "gut" inside the shell on a regular schedule.
 
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techtim72

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kawacko said:
Or you could replace the "gut" inside the shell on a regular schedule.
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Right. As you know, helmet padding is all snap in now. Nothing to say that these pads couldn't be replaced even sooner than every game. Halftime?
 
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