OT: Little Brother adding 10k more empty seats to PJCS

[rick64]

Last season Louisville football had an average attendance of 49,069 in a stadium that seats 55,000 people. Only one of its six home games filled the stadium, with attendance dropping as low as 41,000 in one conference game late in the season. It’s expanding its stadium to create 10,000 more seats to remain empty on game days. The project costs $55M.

Already can't consistently sell out a 55k seat stadium, so adding 10k more seats at a cost of $55M?!?! Wow!!

 

[Mikey Likes It]

They'll fill them for the Kentucky game and likely the FSU or Clemson game so depending on how the schedule breaks they have the potential to sell out 3 games a year. Does the extra 10,000 butts in seats justify the 55 million? Dunno.

 

[IHATEUAVEL]

Turtleneck ain't the smartest pencil in the drawer..:chairshot:He hired a known Adulterer from Arkansas when nobody else wanted the serial liar..Of course "the Win at all costs" policy in effect at Lil Brother overrides common sense..Then keeping ESCORTino on the payroll may backfire when the NCAA gets down to the sordid behavior at Billy Stripper Minardi Hall.so expanding the Pizza Pit when it never sells out except when UK fans fill it..
Note: all you uavel goobers don't be putting all those phony attendance figures on here..They are as bogus as Pitino's morals..Now if Ford ,GE and UPS can pass out all he free seats they receive..The New Expanded Pizza Pit may come within 20% of capacity..but I doubt it...[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]

 

[JasonS.]

I saw where Pepsi bought naming rights for the PJCS expansion for a cool $5 million. Saw what you want, they know how to make the numbers work over there.

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvil...of-l-gets-major-donations-for-papa-johns.html

 

[Mikey Likes It]

I saw where Pepsi bought naming rights for the PJCS expansion for a cool $5 million. Saw what you want, they know how to make the numbers work over there.

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvil...of-l-gets-major-donations-for-papa-johns.html

They do a wonderful job of selling advertising. Thats one aspect I wish Kentucky was better at.

So
5 million from Pepsi
3 million from Planet Fitness (where they'll likely feed you Pepsi)

Thats 8 million so far. I wonder where the rest of its going to come from? I'll go ahead and put Crown Royal and Mitch McConnell down for a million each bringing them up to 10.

 

[IHATEUAVEL]

I saw where Pepsi bought naming rights for the PJCS expansion for a cool $5 million. Saw what you want, they know how to make the numbers work over there.

http://www.bizjournals.com/louisvil...of-l-gets-major-donations-for-papa-johns.html

Hey that sounds neat The Pepsi Zone brought to you by Tommy Turtleneck...I only drink Coke..

 

[dorkmeister]

Get ready for another bunch of junk bonds and having your tax money pay for them again. Every time they do an expansion it is on the backs of the hard working UK fans. Every time they "grow" it is because they take the taxes of UK fans. UK should be allowed to hang their football banners in that stadium with how much UK pays for it!!!!

TOTAL BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[65bird]

No public money, get the facts before you post, or not.

Get ready for another bunch of junk bonds and having your tax money pay for them again. Every time they do an expansion it is on the backs of the hard working UK fans. Every time they "grow" it is because they take the taxes of UK fans. UK should be allowed to hang their football banners in that stadium with how much UK pays for it!!!!

TOTAL BS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[IHATEUAVEL]

No public money, get the facts before you post, or not.

says a bird turd with 1 post..Get Lost Troll said the same about the YUM Center..[sick]

 

[ULoverUK]

says a bird turd with 1 post..Get Lost Troll said the same about the YUM Center..[sick]

The YUM Center is not university owned. They just rent out the place....kinda like Rupp Arena is to you guys. All the other athletic facilities are owned by UofL and no public money was ever used.

 

[ULoverUK]

Last season Louisville football had an average attendance of 49,069 in a stadium that seats 55,000 people. Only one of its six home games filled the stadium, with attendance dropping as low as 41,000 in one conference game late in the season. It’s expanding its stadium to create 10,000 more seats to remain empty on game days. The project costs $55M.

Already can't consistently sell out a 55k seat stadium, so adding 10k more seats at a cost of $55M?!?! Wow!!

All the games were sold out. Yeah, yeah the big donor corporations get blocks of tickets due to their millions of dollars that go to UofL. Those are the seats that often are empty when the opponent or the weather is less than ideal. That certainly is not unique to UofL. Your same and typical response about butts in seats was addressed prior to the last expansion was complete and look how that ended up. Jurich knows a heck of a lot more regarding athletics than you will ever know in a life time.

 

[realism]

Schools don't really care about "butts in seats". They only care about ticket sales. It's your choice whether to use them, or not. I think UofL, much like us, tends to "sell" almost all of their tickets. However, many cardinal fans choose not to go.

Usually, expansions are more about adding $uites...not necessarily seats. Seats are a by-product. I would assume all of the new suites will be spoken for before the first shovel hits dirt. The articles about it say it's all private money and they're, basically, re-doing the entire football complex. Say what you want about Jurich, but that dude has built a TON of new facilities.

 

[irishcat1965]

All the games were sold out. Yeah, yeah the big donor corporations get blocks of tickets due to their millions of dollars that go to UofL. Those are the seats that often are empty when the opponent or the weather is less than ideal. That certainly is not unique to UofL. Your same and typical response about butts in seats was addressed prior to the last expansion was complete and look how that ended up. Jurich knows a heck of a lot more regarding athletics than you will ever know in a life time.

And your morally corrupt coaches know more about banging bimbos and paying for abortions than any staff in the nation. Go stick that in your sombrero.

 

[Mattcg]

The field level seats they are installing are horrible for viewing a game. Even Tony Vanetia was talking about how horrible the view is

 

[IHATEUAVEL]

The YUM Center is not university owned. They just rent out the place....kinda like Rupp Arena is to you guys. All the other athletic facilities are owned by UofL and no public money was ever used.

but uavel has a sweetheart contract that borders on criminal terms..There were public bonds issued to finance it and because of the derilect operation of the taxing district ..those bonds have been devalued to junk..don't let the facts get in the way of the truth..

 

[IHATEUAVEL]

All the games were sold out. Yeah, yeah the big donor corporations get blocks of tickets due to their millions of dollars that go to UofL. Those are the seats that often are empty when the opponent or the weather is less than ideal. That certainly is not unique to UofL. Your same and typical response about butts in seats was addressed prior to the last expansion was complete and look how that ended up. Jurich knows a heck of a lot more regarding athletics than you will ever know in a life time.

Turtleneck may be outta of a job if Governor Bevin forces out Slush Fund Ramsey..another scummy character.Personally I am counting the days til the Powell scandal comes full circle..Ramsey ,Turtleneck and ESCORTino may all be headed out of town..Won't that be a hoot! :chairshot:

 

[Mikey Likes It]

The YUM Center is not university owned. They just rent out the place....kinda like Rupp Arena is to you guys. All the other athletic facilities are owned by UofL and no public money was ever used.

While you are correct Louisville is a tenant in the Yum center they are an incredibly abusive tenant. No other University enjoys such generous lease terms including profiting from non-Louisville events held at the Yum Center, first rights and refusal rights limiting events the Yum Center can host and the first rights to buy the place when it goes under. It may be owned by the city but the contract may as well just have Tom Jurich as a co-signer.

 

[ULoverUK]

For those that don't live in Louisville and haven't seen the video here you go. Look at the bright side. Anytime UofL does something new, Barnhart usually follows suit not long after. So look at it as being good for football overall in our state.

 

[Saguaro Cat]

The governor prevented UK from building a new baseball stadium. Shouldn't he step in and prevent this.

 

[Michigan Fan]

The governor prevented UK from building a new baseball stadium. Shouldn't he step in and prevent this.

It all supposed to be done with Private Donations...Zero public $$$

 

[Crushgroove]

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[ville 77]

Last season Louisville football had an average attendance of 49,069 in a stadium that seats 55,000 people. Only one of its six home games filled the stadium, with attendance dropping as low as 41,000 in one conference game late in the season. It’s expanding its stadium to create 10,000 more seats to remain empty on game days. The project costs $55M.

Already can't consistently sell out a 55k seat stadium, so adding 10k more seats at a cost of $55M?!?! Wow!!

The theme is build it and they will come. A little history reminder. UL was drawing avg crowds of about 33,000 when 42,000 PJ was built. UK fans said why? When PJ was expanded to 55,000 UL had a avg of about 40,000 at most and UK fans said why? Now UL plans to expand in the final phase to 65,000 when they only avg about 51,000 and the question is why?

The reality is UL sells most all of their season tickets and club seats and suites are sold out. The real issue UL has is selling the set aside visitor tickets in the upper deck for bad games and even bigger is sold ticket no shows for weaker opponents. In addition many upper deck young fans elect to hang on the Sun Deck making it look like fewer fans at the game. UL will sell most of the seats for 2-3 games per year and will have 5-6000 empty seats for weak games just like many schools.

The reality of the expansion is the majority of the new seats are club suite seats and will be sold. The money these sell for is what pays for the expansion. High end seats drive the bus at both schools. By the time this expansion is complete the last expansion will be paid for. All with no state money.

Finally lets not bring up the 41,000 game. It was played in heavy rain at kickoff against a bad team. Pretty sure the Uk game played In heavy rain had less than that.

The thing I cannot figure is why the Commonwealth Expansion cost so much. UL is only spending about 20
Mil more for the last 2 expansion project combined that added 24,000 seats and over 70 suites.

 

[irishcat1965]

I just wonder when the hot pink faded seats are going to be replaced.

 

[IHATEUAVEL]

The theme is build it and they will come. A little history reminder. UL was drawing avg crowds of about 33,000 when 42,000 PJ was built. UK fans said why? When PJ was expanded to 55,000 UL had a avg of about 40,000 at most and UK fans said why? Now UL plans to expand in the final phase to 65,000 when they only avg about 51,000 and the question is why?

The reality is UL sells most all of their season tickets and club seats and suites are sold out. The real issue UL has is selling the set aside visitor tickets in the upper deck for bad games and even bigger is sold ticket no shows for weaker opponents. In addition many upper deck young fans elect to hang on the Sun Deck making it look like fewer fans at the game. UL will sell most of the seats for 2-3 games per year and will have 5-6000 empty seats for weak games just like many schools.

The reality of the expansion is the majority of the new seats are club suite seats and will be sold. The money these sell for is what pays for the expansion. High end seats drive the bus at both schools. By the time this expansion is complete the last expansion will be paid for. All with no state money.

Finally lets not bring up the 41,000 game. It was played in heavy rain at kickoff against a bad team. Pretty sure the Uk game played In heavy rain had less than that.

The thing I cannot figure is why the Commonwealth Expansion cost so much. UL is only spending about 20
Mil more for the last 2 expansion project combined that added 24,000 seats and over 70 suites.

the reality is this is all horse crap..the only reason that slimeball Jurich is doing this is because UK improved Commonwealth Stadium..end of discussion..

 

[ukalumni00]

When the sports bubble bursts, programs like UofL are going to be in a world of hurt. Do not agree with Mitch on several things, but I firmly believe the decision to take out seats and continue to improve the fan experience is going to be the better vision long term. Revenue wise, the only real additions that would make sense is adding more club/suites. Also, add more nicer amenities for the rest of the fans who do not get to enjoy most of the real perks that were added with the renovations. If this program ever starts to win more games folks will pay more for tickets which would eliminate the need for more seats. I have been to most of the other SEC stadiums as well as others like Clemson, OSU, MI, etc. and although CWS is smaller (after the recent renovations) it's nicer than most of them.

 

[Saguaro Cat]

It all supposed to be done with Private Donations...Zero public $$$

Doesn't matter. It's a part of the athletic budget, which he has approval of. It's a waste of money. Ask Pepsi to build a new engineering wing or soccer field or jail cell in the stadium for your thug fans. But adding more empty seats is irresponsible.

 

[*CatinIL*]

Thats 8 million so far. I wonder where the rest of its going to come from? I'll go ahead and put Crown Royal and Mitch McConnell down for a million each bringing them up to 10.

You know, you would think that Brown & Forman would at least make UL provide one of their "Bourbons" rather than that mud water that B&F distills down there in Tennessee. [sick] But yeah, Crown Royal would be more appropriate. [thumb2]

 

[Crankdatmustard_rivals66299]

Guys, I guess you don't know the expansion is basically being done to accommodate the Notre Dame home opener in 2018.

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

Jurich knows a heck of a lot more regarding athletics than you will ever know in a life time.

I will agree that he does, but because of his actions, he'll also be the reason many new rules will be in place. I don't necessarily think that's something to be proud of

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

The theme is build it and they will come. A little history reminder. UL was drawing avg crowds of about 33,000 when 42,000 PJ was built. UK fans said why? When PJ was expanded to 55,000 UL had a avg of about 40,000 at most and UK fans said why? Now UL plans to expand in the final phase to 65,000 when they only avg about 51,000 and the question is why?

The reality is UL sells most all of their season tickets and club seats and suites are sold out. The real issue UL has is selling the set aside visitor tickets in the upper deck for bad games and even bigger is sold ticket no shows for weaker opponents. In addition many upper deck young fans elect to hang on the Sun Deck making it look like fewer fans at the game. UL will sell most of the seats for 2-3 games per year and will have 5-6000 empty seats for weak games just like many schools.

The reality of the expansion is the majority of the new seats are club suite seats and will be sold. The money these sell for is what pays for the expansion. High end seats drive the bus at both schools. By the time this expansion is complete the last expansion will be paid for. All with no state money.

Finally lets not bring up the 41,000 game. It was played in heavy rain at kickoff against a bad team. Pretty sure the Uk game played In heavy rain had less than that.

The thing I cannot figure is why the Commonwealth Expansion cost so much. UL is only spending about 20
Mil more for the last 2 expansion project combined that added 24,000 seats and over 70 suites.

These 'points' are just wrong on so many levels and completely not true. Also, Kentucky spent their money on amenities, not stadium capacity. As such, they now have one of the nicest football stadiums in the country. Based on what I know, I do believe that the renovations done were just Phase 1 of the Commonwealth update. In the next 2 years more will be done. Also, one quick note, adding seats will happen to Commonwealth because it does need to be as close to 70k as possible. However, that's not s priority right now, as the administration wants the Gameday experience to be the best in the country.


Again, I think most here would agree that I don't look at UL as any more of a rival than any other directional school, so I try not to be biased.

 

[KendallCat]

The theme is build it and they will come. A little history reminder. UL was drawing avg crowds of about 33,000 when 42,000 PJ was built. UK fans said why? When PJ was expanded to 55,000 UL had a avg of about 40,000 at most and UK fans said why? Now UL plans to expand in the final phase to 65,000 when they only avg about 51,000 and the question is why?

The reality is UL sells most all of their season tickets and club seats and suites are sold out. The real issue UL has is selling the set aside visitor tickets in the upper deck for bad games and even bigger is sold ticket no shows for weaker opponents. In addition many upper deck young fans elect to hang on the Sun Deck making it look like fewer fans at the game. UL will sell most of the seats for 2-3 games per year and will have 5-6000 empty seats for weak games just like many schools.

The reality of the expansion is the majority of the new seats are club suite seats and will be sold. The money these sell for is what pays for the expansion. High end seats drive the bus at both schools. By the time this expansion is complete the last expansion will be paid for. All with no state money.

Finally lets not bring up the 41,000 game. It was played in heavy rain at kickoff against a bad team. Pretty sure the Uk game played In heavy rain had less than that.

The thing I cannot figure is why the Commonwealth Expansion cost so much. UL is only spending about 20
Mil more for the last 2 expansion project combined that added 24,000 seats and over 70 suites.

U of L better hope they don't schedule any games on a Jewish holiday or it will crush their attendance .

No matter how you spin this the facts are adding capacity at a time when people are not attending sporting events due to better HD broadcasts, lack of time, money to attend games... makes zero sense. Only one that is currently doing it because capacity is needed is A&M and that is because of the increased demand of joining the SEC. U of L historically has lackluster attendance except for a couple of games each year and that is with a winning record. We have all heard the excuses including the above mentioned Jewish holiday joke from the U of L faithful, and the seats they are adding are in the least desirable area - end zone seats. We are flattered little brother is trying to be like us and copy a stadium expansion, but spending money to add seats just to try and look important when every year you have games where there are huge groups of seats unused makes no sense. Maybe Clemson or FSU might help fill it once or twice a year, but in a basketball conference what is Duke, BC, Syracuse, Virginia, Miami... going to bring?

 

[cantstandthecards]

Like my wife said: they should worry about cleaning up the morals at the school instead of expanding the football stadium. I told her not going to happen anytime soon.

 

[Michigan Fan]

Doesn't matter. It's a part of the athletic budget, which he has approval of. It's a waste of money. Ask Pepsi to build a new engineering wing or soccer field or jail cell in the stadium for your thug fans. But adding more empty seats is irresponsible.

If they do it with private $$$ that is their choice...as long as it is not with Tax Payer $$$ they should do with it what they please...just my opinion.

Myself it more about upgrading the player areas like the weight room, training area, meeting facility etc...etc...also my opinion with the decline of attendance to college games I would not expand it past 62K...would be more about adding revenue generators like Luxuary Boxes, Club Seats and improving WiFi service...do like the idea of the Restaurant area like they have at AT&T Stadium

 

[Michigan Fan]

Again, I think most here would agree that I don't look at UL as any more of a rival than any other directional school, so I try not to be biased.

Directional school or not...Louisville is part of the club of P5 schools...they are at the table and enter 2015 in the Top 25.

 

[Tannerdad]

Turtleneck may be outta of a job if Governor Bevin forces out Slush Fund Ramsey..another scummy character.Personally I am counting the days til the Powell scandal comes full circle..Ramsey ,Turtleneck and ESCORTino may all be headed out of town..Won't that be a hoot! :chairshot:

Bevin and McConnell are UL fans. Don't expect anything from them regarding Ramsey.
The ***** scandal will take months or years to resolve and may never end up being what we want or think. The NCAA is not to be trusted and you really don't expect UL to police themselves, do you?

So they are expanding the stadium. Why do we even give a crap? If we were winning at the clip they are we would be clamoring for the same here.

I think it is stupid to add seats to a stadium where you cannot fill consistently but they know how to do the finances up there and get away with it so....

We seem to obsess as much as they do at times.

 

[KendallCat]

Directional school or not...Louisville is part of the club of P5 schools...they are at the table and enter 2015 in the Top 25.

Curious as to where you see them as a top 25 school? Looking at the Capital One cup neither the men's or nor women's programs are in the top 25 for the last two years. Honestly the only thing they have been in the media and news for the last year or so is all of the transgressions and NCAA investigations - not the kind of exposure you really want.

 

[Michigan Fan]

Curious as to where you see them as a top 25 school? Looking at the Capital One cup neither the men's or nor women's programs are in the top 25 for the last two years. Honestly the only thing they have been in the media and news for the last year or so is all of the transgressions and NCAA investigations - not the kind of exposure you really want.

Talking bout the Way Too Early College Football Ranking entering 2016...in Football they did finish Top 25 in 2012, 2013 & 2014 in the AP, Coaches & BCS/CFP rankings...also, in College Athletics the only sport that truly matters is Football...Men's Basketball only matters in Mid March to Early April.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

All the games were sold out. Yeah, yeah the big donor corporations get blocks of tickets due to their millions of dollars that go to UofL. Those are the seats that often are empty when the opponent or the weather is less than ideal. That certainly is not unique to UofL. Your same and typical response about butts in seats was addressed prior to the last expansion was complete and look how that ended up. Jurich knows a heck of a lot more regarding athletics than you will ever know in a life time.

We know, Jurich walks on water, as do Pitino and Petrino. They never make any mistakes of any kind. He never lies about anything. Every game is sold out. Money is no object. UL could build a 120,000 seat stadium and it would be sold out, with no problem. Ignore all of the empty pink seats, they were paid for.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

The theme is build it and they will come. A little history reminder. UL was drawing avg crowds of about 33,000 when 42,000 PJ was built. UK fans said why? When PJ was expanded to 55,000 UL had a avg of about 40,000 at most and UK fans said why? Now UL plans to expand in the final phase to 65,000 when they only avg about 51,000 and the question is why?

The reality is UL sells most all of their season tickets and club seats and suites are sold out. The real issue UL has is selling the set aside visitor tickets in the upper deck for bad games and even bigger is sold ticket no shows for weaker opponents. In addition many upper deck young fans elect to hang on the Sun Deck making it look like fewer fans at the game. UL will sell most of the seats for 2-3 games per year and will have 5-6000 empty seats for weak games just like many schools.

The reality of the expansion is the majority of the new seats are club suite seats and will be sold. The money these sell for is what pays for the expansion. High end seats drive the bus at both schools. By the time this expansion is complete the last expansion will be paid for. All with no state money.

Finally lets not bring up the 41,000 game. It was played in heavy rain at kickoff against a bad team. Pretty sure the Uk game played In heavy rain had less than that.

The thing I cannot figure is why the Commonwealth Expansion cost so much. UL is only spending about 20
Mil more for the last 2 expansion project combined that added 24,000 seats and over 70 suites.

The numbers mean little b/c UL grossly inflates its attendance numbers. When they know they won't sell out (or come close to it), they give tickets away. Jurich doesn't want to report the reality that there were probably 28,000 people there for a BC or Wake game, so he gives tickets away, and then lists attendance at 51,350. I suppose it's good for optics, but not sure that it should be used as a basis for expansion.

 

[Cats78]

The theme is build it and they will come. A little history reminder. UL was drawing avg crowds of about 33,000 when 42,000 PJ was built. UK fans said why? When PJ was expanded to 55,000 UL had a avg of about 40,000 at most and UK fans said why? Now UL plans to expand in the final phase to 65,000 when they only avg about 51,000 and the question is why?

The reality is UL sells most all of their season tickets and club seats and suites are sold out. The real issue UL has is selling the set aside visitor tickets in the upper deck for bad games and even bigger is sold ticket no shows for weaker opponents. In addition many upper deck young fans elect to hang on the Sun Deck making it look like fewer fans at the game. UL will sell most of the seats for 2-3 games per year and will have 5-6000 empty seats for weak games just like many schools.

The reality of the expansion is the majority of the new seats are club suite seats and will be sold. The money these sell for is what pays for the expansion. High end seats drive the bus at both schools. By the time this expansion is complete the last expansion will be paid for. All with no state money.

Finally lets not bring up the 41,000 game. It was played in heavy rain at kickoff against a bad team. Pretty sure the Uk game played In heavy rain had less than that.

The thing I cannot figure is why the Commonwealth Expansion cost so much. UL is only spending about 20
Mil more for the last 2 expansion project combined that added 24,000 seats and over 70 suites.

I notice many of your posts over here. They make me laugh. How does it feel to not be able to think for yourself and just regurgitate nonsense that is fed to you by people (anyone associated with the University of Louisville athletics or otherwise) with a history of lying and corruptness?