OT: Little Brother adding 10k more empty seats to PJCS

Bird Watcher

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U of L better hope they don't schedule any games on a Jewish holiday or it will crush their attendance :D.

No matter how you spin this the facts are adding capacity at a time when people are not attending sporting events due to better HD broadcasts, lack of time, money to attend games... makes zero sense. Only one that is currently doing it because capacity is needed is A&M and that is because of the increased demand of joining the SEC. U of L historically has lackluster attendance except for a couple of games each year and that is with a winning record. We have all heard the excuses including the above mentioned Jewish holiday joke from the U of L faithful, and the seats they are adding are in the least desirable area - end zone seats. We are flattered little brother is trying to be like us and copy a stadium expansion, but spending money to add seats just to try and look important when every year you have games where there are huge groups of seats unused makes no sense. Maybe Clemson or FSU might help fill it once or twice a year, but in a basketball conference what is Duke, BC, Syracuse, Virginia, Miami... going to bring?

Wow.
 

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Directional school or not...Louisville is part of the club of P5 schools...they are at the table and enter 2015 in the Top 25.

You're right, however how they got there is unethical, questionable at best. In saying that, Louisville has a knack of joining conferences that soon fold. If history repeats itself one last time, there's a very good chance Louisville is on the outside looking in again. With the all the scandals going on in the program, there's sure to be more to come. Maybe the ACC will kick Louisville out for a change.

Hope not, though. Having 2 BCS teams is good for the state.
 
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irishcat1965

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UL is a cesspool of cheating. The tards cheated to get football players under Cholly through "Show Cause" Hurt. That's the reason for your success and the only reason. Now your pathetic cheating basketball program will self impose a NCAA ban because they used hookers to get players. You tard fans should be proud that your athletic programs are based in cheating not to mention your coaches are cheater low lifes at home. Throw up your Ls ghetto trash.
 
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I guess Louisville should just get rid of the stadium, and move back to the fairgrounds....uk fan doesn't approve. Jurich should retire, he has no idea what he's doing.

Thanks for the logical, non-biased feedback.
 

irishcat1965

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I guess Louisville should just get rid of the stadium, and move back to the fairgrounds....uk fan doesn't approve. Jurich should retire, he has no idea what he's doing.

Thanks for the logical, non-biased feedback.
You are a fan of cheaters.
 

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Talking bout the Way Too Early College Football Ranking entering 2016...in Football they did finish Top 25 in 2012, 2013 & 2014 in the AP, Coaches & BCS/CFP rankings...also, in College Athletics the only sport that truly matters is Football...Men's Basketball only matters in Mid March to Early April.

Please tell me that is not your reply to the question - only sport that matters is college football? Why does U of L have a strip club/brothel they use for recruiting basketball if that is the case? Why do they pay Pitino $4+ million if hoops does not matter - seems like a waste of money if the sport does not matter. Better tell your fans to start showing up to the only sport that matters since your stadium looks a lot like Miami half of the time [roll]
 
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Please tell me that is not your reply to the question - only sport that matters is college football? Why does U of L have a strip club/brothel they use for recruiting basketball if that is the case? Why do they pay Pitino $4+ million if hoops does not matter - seems like a waste of money if the sport does not matter. Better tell your fans to start showing up to the only sport that matters since your stadium looks a lot like Miami half of the time [roll]
1. The question was Top 25 Ranking which they will be in Football Preseason in 2016.

2. Im not a College Basketball fan at all and in athletics whether you like it or not nationally that the case. The SEC Network and B1G Network came about because of football. In college athletics football drives the bus and it's not even close...and IMO both schools do waste $$$ in Basketball.

As far as Louisville Basketball you get caught you pay the price...simple as that
 
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I guess Louisville should just get rid of the stadium, and move back to the fairgrounds....uk fan doesn't approve. Jurich should retire, he has no idea what he's doing.

Thanks for the logical, non-biased feedback.
After deep thought and careful consideration, I am inclined to agree with you.

I agree that:

Louisville should get rid of the stadium.

Louisville should move back to the fairgrounds.

Jurich should retire.

In light of today's developments, I would actually go farther.

I would recommend: the dismantling of every Louisville athletic program, on a permanent basis. A self-imposed death penalty, if you will. Not like the "death penalty" that SMU received, which was more like a 2 year prison sentence. I recommend an absolute death penalty- goodbye, forever. I am absolutely disgusted by the Powell story, and I can see no other appropriate solution than a true death penalty for UofLoL athletics.
 

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1. The question was Top 25 Ranking which they will be in Football Preseason in 2016.

2. Im not a College Basketball fan at all and in athletics whether you like it or not nationally that the case. The SEC Network and B1G Network came about because of football. In college athletics football drives the bus and it's not even close...and IMO both schools do waste $$$ in Basketball.

As far as Louisville Basketball you get caught you pay the price...simple as that
I agree, if you get caught, you pay the price.

But it should be a HEAVY price- the death penalty, I insist! And down go the banners from 2013, as well.
 

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I will agree that he does, but because of his actions, he'll also be the reason many new rules will be in place. I don't necessarily think that's something to be proud of

I don't know, I thought the rule about using hired hookers had been on the books a long time. Isn't that how hurtt won his NROTY at the U also?

At least TU seemed to use free labor with their "Orange Pride".
 
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The difference between UK and UL is that UK sells 50-53k season tickets to fans and then fills the rest with game tickets. UL sells about 25k season tickets and then has to "allot" the rest for discounted game tickets like they do with Kroger. They "sell" Kroger 5k tickets for next to nothing so if they sell, great, if not, no biggie, they can still claim it as a sold ticket at attendance.
Utterly false. Louisville sells way more season tickets than UK in football. About 9-10,000 more actually.
http://ukfootball.bloginky.com/2015/07/02/season-ticket-sales-updates/

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...m-expansion-reflection-strong-sales/71342990/

http://www.gocards.com/news/2014/8/...ickets_Individual_Tickets_on_Sale_Friday.aspx
 

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I love threads like this! It helps me identify the low moral and ethical posters I need to put on ignore.
 

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Directional school or not...Louisville is part of the club of P5 schools...they are at the table and enter 2015 in the Top 25.
You mean entering 2016 as the university with the least morals and soon to rise into the top ten schools with the most amount of time on probation and sanctions received.
 

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I guess Louisville should just get rid of the stadium, and move back to the fairgrounds....uk fan doesn't approve. Jurich should retire, he has no idea what he's doing.

Thanks for the logical, non-biased feedback.
What did you expect your on A UK BOARD. Either grin and bare it (like all your coaches Strong, Dicktino and NeckbraceTrino have done) or get the you know what off and go cry on your looserville board about how bad you were treated on our board.

At least you were able to post your dribble here without having to worry about being banned. Having fun
 

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1. The question was Top 25 Ranking which they will be in Football Preseason in 2016.

2. Im not a College Basketball fan at all and in athletics whether you like it or not nationally that the case. The SEC Network and B1G Network came about because of football. In college athletics football drives the bus and it's not even close...and IMO both schools do waste $$$ in Basketball.

As far as Louisville Basketball you get caught you pay the price...simple as that
Please, don't come over here trying to justify your existence to UK fans who could care less that you exist.

Espically after the way you dog our players, coaches, school and fans out on your board and you want to come over here and tell us the way it is. Get lost.

As your girlfriend Zipp says: Elite program my a$$ That's exactly how we feel about UofLsucksville
and their stupid posters.
 

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Not a terrible idea, it will pay for itself with concerts selling out, eventually. And it will be funny to see all those empty seats during football games.
 

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Sorry to bring you folks some bad news, but Louisville is growing (in all metrics) and with no pro sports near by and the unparalleled popularity of FB combined with the recent fortunes of the ACC inclusion and vision from TJ...this trend is not going to stop any time soon...you may want to get accustomed to the idea that UofL is a rising CFB star, your hate and vitriol is only going to raise your blood pressure.
 
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I guess Louisville should just get rid of the stadium, and move back to the fairgrounds....uk fan doesn't approve. Jurich should retire, he has no idea what he's doing.

Thanks for the logical, non-biased feedback.
uavel fans are morons..Jurass is a known liar..The school is a laughing stock for sex scandals..what have you missed..
 

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Sorry to bring you folks some bad news, but Louisville is growing (in all metrics) and with no pro sports near by and the unparalleled popularity of FB combined with the recent fortunes of the ACC inclusion and vision from TJ...this trend is not going to stop any time soon...you may want to get accustomed to the idea that UofL is a rising CFB star, your hate and vitriol is only going to raise your blood pressure.
back to the West End ..we are sending Hatcher right over Lil Brother..
 

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Sorry to bring you folks some bad news, but Louisville is growing (in all metrics) and with no pro sports near by and the unparalleled popularity of FB combined with the recent fortunes of the ACC inclusion and vision from TJ...this trend is not going to stop any time soon...you may want to get accustomed to the idea that UofL is a rising CFB star, your hate and vitriol is only going to raise your blood pressure.
Rising CFB star? Those "Banjo Bowl" appearances are really going to these clowns heads. And noone cares about those bogus BCS bowls UL went to as a result of playing in High School leagues. Please post more, we need the laughs. [roll]
 

IHATEUAVEL

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so you charge more thus income is greater..everything at uavel is phony..phony phony..yadda yadda yadda
 

PushupMan

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Yes, selling beer to alcoholics is pure economic genius. Whoda thunk it?

Do the math with me here ... if UofL made $1 million more per game and it was all due to beer sales, then that would mean 50,000 fans spent $20 each on beer per game. So every man, woman and child bought 3.5 beers. Except that over here everyone's saying UofL doesn't really get 50,000 fans per game, so that means even more per actual fan in attendance for beer....

So the "beer sales" argument doesn't work - not as an explanation for how UofL and UK are even in football revenue generated per game, and certainly not as a reason why UK makes more per game than UofL does. Care to try again?
 
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The YUM Center is not university owned. They just rent out the place....kinda like Rupp Arena is to you guys. All the other athletic facilities are owned by UofL and no public money was ever used.


This is totally false. One just has to pull up Wikipedia to find that information that Papa Johns like all UOFL buildings are publically funded. Here is a portion of the info found on Wikipedia.
On August 27, 2007, John Schnatter donated $10 million in support of the expansion, and extended naming rights through 2040. The Kentucky General Assembly, the state legislature, provided the balance of funding for the project. The stadium is therefore about 46% state-funded in total.
 

Pump4UK

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This is totally false. One just has to pull up Wikipedia to find that information that Papa Johns like all UOFL buildings are publically funded. Here is a portion of the info found on Wikipedia.
On August 27, 2007, John Schnatter donated $10 million in support of the expansion, and extended naming rights through 2040. The Kentucky General Assembly, the state legislature, provided the balance of funding for the project. The stadium is therefore about 46% state-funded in total.
here is link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_John's_Cardinal_Stadium
 

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The YUM Center is not university owned. They just rent out the place....kinda like Rupp Arena is to you guys. All the other athletic facilities are owned by UofL and no public money was ever used.
UL controls everything, like shutting out NBA and when the bonds go south have a sweetheart deal to buy for cents on dollar. an absolutely OBSCENE deal.
 

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Turtleneck ain't the smartest pencil in the drawer..:chairshot:He hired a known Adulterer from Arkansas when nobody else wanted the serial liar..Of course "the Win at all costs" policy in effect at Lil Brother overrides common sense..Then keeping ESCORTino on the payroll may backfire when the NCAA gets down to the sordid behavior at Billy Stripper Minardi Hall.so expanding the Pizza Pit when it never sells out except when UK fans fill it..
Note: all you uavel goobers don't be putting all those phony attendance figures on here..They are as bogus as Pitino's morals..Now if Ford ,GE and UPS can pass out all he free seats they receive..The New Expanded Pizza Pit may come within 20% of capacity..but I doubt it...[laughing][laughing][laughing][laughing]

Actually he's very smart. Anyone who thinks he isn't is the leafless pencil. You give the devil his due. Wish he was our AD.

Your post sounds like envy.
 

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pump4UK writes...
This is totally false. One just has to pull up Wikipedia to find that information that Papa Johns like all UOFL buildings are publically funded. Here is a portion of the info found on Wikipedia.
On August 27, 2007, John Schnatter donated $10 million in support of the expansion, and extended naming rights through 2040. The Kentucky General Assembly, the state legislature, provided the balance of funding for the project. The stadium is therefore about 46% state-funded in total.
here is link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_John's_Cardinal_Stadium

pump, there is a reason why high school teachers tell their students "no Wikipedia source" when asking for a research paper; Wikipedia info is often incomplete or just flat out wrong as underlined above.

There is not a nickel of state money in PJCS. The original construction bond was a City of Louisville/Jefferson County bond which was refinanced during the expansion to the current configuration by a Metro Louisville bond which is paid off by the ULAA. The only action Frankfort has had in the project is they must approve any school capital project over I believe $650,000 even if they have absolutely no money in the project. Their failure to approve a project in which they had no financial in a timely manner resulted in a 1 year construction delay. The ensuing construction cost inflation resulted in a scale back from about 62,000 seats to the present 56,000.

Also please note the following quote from the PJCS link you reference above:

History and fundraising[edit]
Due to the Kentucky General Assembly being unable to provide any public funding, construction of the stadium began with private funds, which included the reclamation of the land upon which the South Louisville Rail Yard was situated.​

Since PJCS was built UofL has spent well over $200M on athletic infrastructure and I don't think there was a dollar of state money involved.

Peace
 

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Oh, notice me, UK! Acknowledge me, UK! Approve of me, UK! Justify to me that UL being a conference bastard all these years has been worth all the trouble of signage and jersey changes to currently represent our ever-changing foster home of a conference, whichever one that might be today. We so desperately seek your approval, UK, b/c you are the only school that we have any sort of on-field dominance over due to our morally bankrupt hire of Petrino and his merry band of cast offs and Rod Councils in complete effort to best you, UK, the beacon of football standards, while on NCAA sanctions. Please, we need this verification from you, UK, that we are finally, after decades of trying, a lesser-of-two-evils addition to a P5 conference that was just looking for filler schools.

Which reminds me, I need to call my little brother.
 
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pump4UK writes...
This is totally false. One just has to pull up Wikipedia to find that information that Papa Johns like all UOFL buildings are publically funded. Here is a portion of the info found on Wikipedia.
On August 27, 2007, John Schnatter donated $10 million in support of the expansion, and extended naming rights through 2040. The Kentucky General Assembly, the state legislature, provided the balance of funding for the project. The stadium is therefore about 46% state-funded in total.
here is link :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papa_John's_Cardinal_Stadium

pump, there is a reason why high school teachers tell their students "no Wikipedia source" when asking for a research paper; Wikipedia info is often incomplete or just flat out wrong as underlined above.

There is not a nickel of state money in PJCS. The original construction bond was a City of Louisville/Jefferson County bond which was refinanced during the expansion to the current configuration by a Metro Louisville bond which is paid off by the ULAA. The only action Frankfort has had in the project is they must approve any school capital project over I believe $650,000 even if they have absolutely no money in the project. Their failure to approve a project in which they had no financial in a timely manner resulted in a 1 year construction delay. The ensuing construction cost inflation resulted in a scale back from about 62,000 seats to the present 56,000.

Also please note the following quote from the PJCS link you reference above:

History and fundraising[edit]
Due to the Kentucky General Assembly being unable to provide any public funding, construction of the stadium began with private funds, which included the reclamation of the land upon which the South Louisville Rail Yard was situated.​

Since PJCS was built UofL has spent well over $200M on athletic infrastructure and I don't think there was a dollar of state money involved.

Peace
Key word on what you quoted was construction of the stadium BEGAN with. Nothing in that statement suggests there was no public funding just none used at beginning.
 

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Key word on what you quoted was construction of the stadium BEGAN with. Nothing in that statement suggests there was no public funding just none used at beginning.

As Wildcard stated, public funding was used for the last expansion - it just wasn't state money. In 2008, the state's Capital Projects and Bond Oversight Committee approved UofL to use "Louisville Metro Government Revenue Bonds, Series 2008A and Series 2008B" for the University of Louisville Papa John's Cardinal Stadium Expansion. If you search for this information, you can verify that to be true. By the way - it will probably only take you one guess to get why state bonds weren't approved for use for that project, and why they won't be used for this project, either.

Additional funding to finance the project included gifts, the sale of luxury suites, and loge seating (as stated below).

http://www.uoflsports.com/news/2008/4/24/State_Approves_Papa_John_s_Cardinal_Stadium_Expansion.aspx


April 24, 2008


LOUISVILLE, Ky. - The University of Louisville has received final approval from the state of Kentucky to move forward with the proposed expansion of Papa John's Cardinal Stadium, said Vice President for Athletics Tom Jurich.

Premium seat packages and suites in the new structure are currently being sold and additional gifts are still being sought to complete the $72 million project. While increasing the seating capacity to more than 60,000, the expansion will include 45 new luxury suites, a new south terrace, 2,000 premium loge seats and additional reserved seating.

The new east side loge section will offer outside seating and inside amenities. The six-row section is adjacent to a glass-enclosed lounge area with a private entrance, concessions, and restrooms under an overhang with fans and heaters to provide a comfortable climate. Also included are 45 new luxury suites, which feature 18 outside seats plus accommodations for 8-12 persons inside.

"We're very excited to get final approval from the State of Kentucky to move forward on our stadium expansion," said Jurich. "When this project is completed, Papa John's Cardinal Stadium will be one of the finest stadiums in college football. We appreciate the response we've received from our fans and the donations we've received from our corporate partners."

Fundraising for the $72 million stadium expansion is ahead of schedule, which includes the lead gift from Papa John's and John and Annette Schnatter at $10 million.

Sun Tan City, an Elizabethtown, Ky., based company, has also made a $3 million donation, and in recognition of this gift, the formerly named red parking lot located adjacent to the stadium will be renamed the "Bronze lot".

Loge seat sales are nearing the 1,000 seat mark and nearly two-thirds of the 45 new football suites have already been committed.

"Fans are really excited about the premium loge seats being added, and our package combining these loge seats with premium basketball seats in the new downtown arena has really caught on," said Gary Friedman, Associate Athletic Director. "I anticipate, with this stadium approval, the sales momentum will increase even more and the urgency to get these seats will pick up considerably."

Information on obtaining seats in the loge and suite levels is available through the Cardinal Athletic Fund at 502-852-5735, by checking www.UofLsports.com or by logging on to www.PapaJohnsCardinalStadiumExpansion.com. The expansion is slated to be completed by the fall of 2010.
 

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compliance offer for ul just filed suit against the university of louisville for systemic rule breaking and ignoring evidence of rule breaking. usually athletic depts are the problem on d1 campus's. ul's whole university is corrupt. cant wait til this fundraising for the stadium gets some light... no way someone isn't skimming the top on that deal. lol