I was just taking a look and saw that Colorado has lost 116 games- how is it possible to be that bad?
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That is bad enough, but look at their run differential. It’s insane. It is less than 10 or so behind the combined negative run difference of all the other NL teams put together. They are at -416 runs - more than double the next worst club (Nats).
The Chicago White Sox lost 121 games last year. Not sure how MLB can consider more expansion when there isn't enough talent to go around now.
The talent is there, however it’s concentrated in organizations that have the $ to spend. It might take a strike for a salary cap to get implemented, but I personally think it’s a price that needs to be paid.
No they don’t. They have a luxury tax that has proven to be little to no deterrent to some franchises.
And the implementation of a cap is what will likely cause the next work stoppage.
I agree with no more expansion. However, there’s plenty of talent. It’s just mostly on the big money/market teams.
Would a rose by another name still smell so sweet??
Major League Baseball luxury tax - Wikipedia
So you think the players see the luxury tax and an actual salary cap as one and the same? Hopefully they do, since the bargaining will be smooth sailing then.Would a rose by another name still smell so sweet??
Major League Baseball luxury tax - Wikipedia
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'If a cap is the only answer, we're all in trouble': What fight over salary cap means for MLB's future
There are two words MLB and the MLBPA simply cannot agree on. Here's how it got this way and what it means for the next CBA.
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MLB wants a salary cap, and between now and Dec. 1, 2026, when the current collective bargaining agreement expires, those two words -- which owners regard as a necessity and the MLBPA as a profanity -- could presage the fate of the 2027 season.
Just because the better veteran players are more concentrated on the higher paying teams, doesn’t mean there is enough talent for all the majors.
All the rosters/starting positions would still need to be filled. A cap/floor would only balance the talent out more, it wouldn’t create additional better players.
All the rosters/starting positions would still need to be filled. A cap/floor would only balance the talent out more, it wouldn’t create additional better players.
yep the Tigers farm system would have won more games than the Rockies this year
A meaningful salary cap is the only thing that will keep MLB viable. AND, it may eventually mean that some of the smaller market teams will have a chance to compete more than once every 20 years or so.
Then they need a meaningful salary floor as well. Teams like the Rockies and Pirates are taking advantage of great fanbases by charging major league prices for AAAA baseball, without trying to compete year after year.
Agree, and it will almost certainly be a part of it. But most (outside of the fans of 4-5 teams) will agree that a change is necessary.
The key is pitching talent. The bottom feeder teams don't have it. Who do the Pirates have after Skenes, for example. Then couple that with the big market teams with much more money being able to raid the top players/prospects of the smaller market teams and you get the imbalance we see. The Dodgers have won their division 12 of 13 years, is that all because their manager and GM are geniuses?
The Pirates are a bad example in your post. The Pirates have way more pitching talent than they do hitting. Oviedo, Chandler, Ashcraft, Burrows, and then they get Jones back next year along with a steady Keller. If they had 3b and LF who could hit at all they would be 500
It's a lot like college football these days.
The money is a big deal in baseball but it's not everything. Look at the Mets. They have the biggest payroll and they're barely over .500
But your point about the bottom feeders is correct. It's almost impossible for them to compete. I was always impressed with Tampa Bay. Somehow they've won quite a few division titles with good pitching in spite of having a low payroll.
Absolutely Relayer! I've been saying, for a few years now, MLB needs to eliminate about 2 teams per league! Expansion only helped the large, money-rich organizations like in NY, LA, Philly, and Boston.
Well, in a way, I gotta disagree with ya Relayer. The Marlins, Pirates, and A's all get real good players cuz they pick early in the draft due to having terrible teams. They develop these guys, and then trade them off. With that said, let's see how long Skenes stays in Pittsburgh. Colorado needs to move to another baseball area. Just my humble opinions.
I think the Yankees now have 5 decent to good/very good starters. I can't figure them out. They started the season looking like a championship team. Then they didn't even look like a playoff team and had a horrendous bullpen. Now they look like world beaters again. Tough team to figure out.
With all the $ the Yankees spend, it is crazy that the rotation has been stabilized by 3 young kids - Gil, Warren and Schlittler. If they could just fix that bullpen, they could have a chance.
The problem with Colorado is definitely not fan support. It is ownership. You will get the same result for that franchise, wherever they are located, due to the owner.